Ryu vs Jin Kazama: 3-Round Battle Royale! · Games 'Versus' Forum

Snafu the Great Jerkass Woobie

Ryu vs Jin Kazama: 3-Round Battle Royale!

Two fighters. Three rounds.

The reluctant decendant of the Mishima family takes on the hard-hitting Ansatsuken veteran.

ROUND ONE: Ryu uses Gouken-ryu Ansatsuken while Jin uses Traditional Karate.

ROUND TWO: Now, Ryu uses Gotetsu-ryu Ansatsuken while Jin switches up to Mishima Karate and Kazama-style martial arts.

ROUND THREE: Evil Ryu and Devil Jin are unleashed in a battle to the finish.

shin_gear Restricted

As always I'll say Jin whoops on Ryu in every one of those cases.

Btw nice avatar, whatever that is.

Snafu the Great Jerkass Woobie

Originally posted by shin_gear
Btw nice avatar, whatever that is.

That's Haohmaru from the Samurai Shodown RPG.

HonkyTonkMan Senior Member

Ryu has far more experience than Jin, Ryu grew up sparring with Ken most of his life and Ken alone can take out most of Tekkens competition without breaking a sweat.
In my opinion (The right opinion) Ryu nearly outdoes Jin in every attribute if not them all.

Speed: Ryu dodges a terrorists' bullets. Jin got shot in the head.
Technique: Ryu has kept to his good ol' Shotokan style where Jin can't make his damn mind up.
Strength: Neither have shown any sign of something special, draw.
Energy Blasts: Ryu by far.

Although both have been training since young, Jin only started his Families style of Karate at 15 when his mother was murdered by Ogre.
Ryu was adopted as a young child by Master Gouken, and begun training when he could stand.
Ryu wins.

Snafu the Great Jerkass Woobie

Originally posted by HonkyTonkMan
Technique: Ryu has kept to his good ol' Shotokan style where Jin can't make his damn mind up.
Strength: Neither have shown any sign of something special, draw.

Ansatsuken. Shotkan Karate is something that Capcom USA whipped up.

Originally posted by shin_gear
Btw nice avatar, whatever that is.

Wait...you mean the guy that's flying around? That's Funky Dynamite from Ninja Gaiden 2.

shin_gear Restricted

Originally posted by HonkyTonkMan
Ryu has far more experience than Jin,

That's a given. 😄

Originally posted by HonkyTonkMan
Ryu grew up sparring with Ken most of his life and Ken alone can take out most of Tekkens competition without breaking a sweat.

I would agree with you if you meant most of Tekken's low-tiers.

Originally posted by HonkyTonkMan
In my opinion (The right opinion) Ryu nearly outdoes Jin in every attribute if not them all.

I respect that. However keep in mind that Ryu's boulder feat is Ryu's highest strength feat if I'm not mistaken. People like Bryan Fury (who's between middle and high-tier in the Tekken series) can rip off a tank turret and toss it for hundreds of meters. Kazuya can toss a robot weighing hundreds of pounds very fast across a big room without breaking a sweat. Jin's stronger than both.

Originally posted by HonkyTonkMan
Speed: Ryu dodges a terrorists' bullets. Jin got shot in the head.

While being on the floor after getting mowed down by machine gun fire. A weakened Ryu got owned by two street thugs and bled. He would've died by the soldiers that shot Jin. Jin survived, kicked the soldiers' asses and then Heihachi's.

Originally posted by HonkyTonkMan
Technique: Ryu has kept to his good ol' Shotokan style where Jin can't make his damn mind up.

Jin has made up his mind. In addition he has different fighting styles he could use in combat. How does this help Ryu's case though?

Originally posted by HonkyTonkMan
Strength: Neither have shown any sign of something special, draw.

Ryu's boulder feat is impressive. At first I was going to say that Jin hasn't shown any impressive strength feats until I just remembered him slamming heihachi through a thick wall of concrete. I agree that it's pretty much a draw.

Originally posted by HonkyTonkMan
Energy Blasts: Ryu by far.

This would go under technique by the way.

Originally posted by HonkyTonkMan
Although both have been training since young, Jin only started his Families style of Karate at 15 when his mother was murdered by Ogre.
Ryu was adopted as a young child by Master Gouken, and begun training when he could stand.

Pretty much.

Originally posted by HonkyTonkMan
Ryu wins.

I know it's your opinion. I have a different one..😈

Originally posted by Snafu the Great
Wait...you mean the guy that's flying around? That's Funky Dynamite from Ninja Gaiden 2.

No, I meant your avatar.

StyleTime Senior Member

Originally posted by shin_gear
I respect that. However keep in mind that Ryu's boulder feat is Ryu's highest strength feat if I'm not mistaken. People like Bryan Fury (who's between middle and high-tier in the Tekken series) can rip off a tank turret and toss it for hundreds of meters. Kazuya can toss a robot weighing hundreds of pounds very fast across a big room without breaking a sweat. Jin's stronger than both.
Ryu's boulder feat is impressive. At first I was going to say that Jin hasn't shown any impressive strength feats until I just remembered him slamming heihachi through a thick wall of concrete. I agree that it's pretty much a draw.

Just because Jin is ranked higher doesn't mean is phsyically stronger.

Jin was powered up by the Devil Gene for that. Regular Jin is probably slightly weaker than Ryu.

shin_gear Restricted

Trust me, he's stronger if he could beat those guys since he doesn't outclass them in speed, or pretty much anything else. Bryan wasn't affected in the least by a tank shot, and yes, Jin would beat him without the Devil Gene.

Jin has shown to be able to destroy JACKs as well, as well as a very powerful 50 feet monster, and obviously since feats from the Alpha movie can be used, so can feats from Devil Within. That's more impressive than what Kazuya and Heihachi are capable of.

Snafu the Great Jerkass Woobie

Originally posted by shin_gear
No, I meant your avatar.

Oh. Haohmaru from the Samurai Showdown RPG.

StyleTime Senior Member

Originally posted by shin_gear
Trust me, he's stronger if he could beat those guys since he doesn't outclass them in speed, or pretty much anything else. Bryan wasn't affected in the least by a tank shot, and yes, Jin would beat him without the Devil Gene.
Jin has shown to be able to destroy JACKs as well, as well as a very powerful 50 feet monster, and obviously since feats from the Alpha movie can be used, so can feats from Devil Within. That's more impressive than what Kazuya and Heihachi are capable of.

He beat them because of the Devil Gene. He hasn't fought Bryan at all.

Maybe more impressive, but we're talking strictly strength. Beating Ogre isn't a strength feat.

shin_gear Restricted

Bryan never made it as far as they did because he's not in their league. It was against each other that they used the Devil Gene, not against anyone else.

I know we are. He overcame hordes of JACKs as his father and grandfather have. I'm sure it takes strength to do that. It takes a lot more strength to overcome a 50 foot ruin quaking monster.

Shin_Nikkolas Restricted

One can use Devil's power and the Devil Gene while remaining human. Heihachi sensed Devil in Jin according to the canon T3 Bio. More than likely it's because Jin was calling on its strength. Otherwise, it just took Hei 4 years to notice.

Sado22 Restricted

Ryu has far more experience than Jin, Ryu grew up sparring with Ken most of his life and Ken alone can take out most of Tekkens competition without breaking a sweat.

ignoring the n00bish statement, Jin was training with his mother for 15 years, spent the next learning advanced mishima ryu and then two more years of kyokushin karate. that's 22 years of nothing but martial arts. don't undermime it...and we all know ryu is more experienced. its a given since he's 33 and jin is only 21.

Speed: Ryu dodges a terrorists' bullets. Jin got shot in the head.

that's cuz Jin was caught off guard. get your facts straight. and Jin was shot by MACHINE guns. it was while he was lying on the ground DYING did hachi shoot him in the face. what are you going on about?
I'd give speed to Jin. Check out his fluid step-ins if you have a problem agreeing.

Technique: Ryu has kept to his good ol' Shotokan style where Jin can't make his damn mind up.

is that supposed to mean something? get real man.
technique is with Jin because:
-he has good step-ins. Ryu doesn't.
-he has good counters. Ryu doesn't.
-he has reversals. Ryu doesn't.
-he has evasive tactics. Ryu doesn't.
-his movement is more fluid. Ryu doesn't.
-he has cool throws.
-he has three sets of martials arts that employ powerful uppercuts and step-ins (Mishima ryu), good defensive tactics and throws and fluid circular movements (kazama ryu) and powerful straight attacks and counters and dodges and parries (Kyokushin karate).

so who has technique now?

Strength: Neither have shown any sign of something special, draw.

ryu picks up boulders AFTER training with Oro. What was his strength BEFORE that? Jin punched lili more that 20 feet away with something that wasn't even his strongest punch.
Power is with Jin.

Energy Blasts: Ryu by far.

...captain obvious aren't you?

Although both have been training since young, Jin only started his Families style of Karate at 15 when his mother was murdered by Ogre.

no, he was training till the age of 15 and had to stop becuase his mother was killed. get your facts straight.

Ryu was adopted as a young child by Master Gouken, and begun training when he could stand.

same with Jin.

Ryu wins.

I don't think so.

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Jin defeats Ryu in the first two. Evil ryu and Devil Jin is something I'm not too sure about.

~Sado

Shin_Nikkolas Restricted

He would've died by the soldiers that shot Jin. Jin survived, kicked the soldiers' asses and then Heihachi's.

Because Ryu doesn't have a Devil Gene to save his ass?

ignoring the n00bish statement

,

You aare contraidcting yourself by saying "ignoring the n00bish statement" and then responding to it....

Jin was training with his mother for 15 years, spent

So, he was training in Kazama Karate from infancy?

You have no idea how many years he actually was taught the self-defense style of his mother's family.

I'd give speed to Jin. Check out his fluid step-ins if you have a problem agreeing.

Gotta love them game mechanics.

ryu picks up boulders AFTER training with Oro. What was his strength BEFORE that? Jin punched lili more that 20 feet away with something that wasn't even his strongest punch.
Power is with Jin.

Lifting boulders > punching a dainty woman some feet.

shin_gear Restricted

Ryu has the Satsui no Hadou. He's never shown surviving and using it after getting mowed down by machine gun fire. That's an impressive feat Jin has, not Ryu.

And by n00bish statement, he meant the n00bish one, not the entire point he was addressing.

As for game mechanics, that's pretty much all Ryu has to support his speed. Not to mention DJ's speed > E. Ryu's speed. See T5 Intro.

Lifting "A" boulder is done by characters who aren't high-tiers in the Tekken series.

Sado22 Restricted

Because Ryu doesn't have a Devil Gene to save his ass?

no one is talking about devil gene, sherlock.

You aare contraidcting yourself by saying "ignoring the n00bish statement" and then responding to it....

still sour about our last encounter? 🙄

So, he was training in Kazama Karate from infancy? You have no idea how many years he actually was taught the self-defense style of his mother's family.

do you? what we do know is that she trained Jin since he was old enough. that's what the point was. its not like ryu was training for his full 33 years either now is he?

Lifting boulders > punching a dainty woman some feet.

that was when he trained with Oro. I'm talking before that. as in Ryu prior to training with Oro.

as for the rest of your not-so-smart comments, we really don't need to get into this again. save your smartass comments so that you don't get pwned by Lana yet again 😄

~Sado

shin_gear Restricted

Originally posted by Sado22
no one is talking about devil gene, sherlock.
still sour about our last encounter? 🙄
do you? what we do know is that she trained Jin since he was old enough. that's what the point was. its not like ryu was training for his full 33 years either now is he?
that was when he trained with Oro. I'm talking before that. as in Ryu prior to training with Oro.
as for the rest of your not-so-smart comments, we really don't need to get into this again. save your smartass comments so that you don't get pwned by Lana yet again 😄
~Sado

Sado22 Restricted

hey gears, put this as your sig

shin_gear Restricted

LOL...I saw that at Fighters Generation. It's right next to the one in my sig.

And, no...maybe...idk. I may. I think this one is better.

Sado22 Restricted

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