Ryu has the Satsui no Hadou. He's never shown surviving and using it after getting mowed down by machine gun fire. That's an impressive feat Jin has, not Ryu.
Except Jin was DYING until the Devil Gene saved him. The Dark hadou is just the will to kill and banish your own personal feelings to try and get stronger and win. It's not a powerup that gives you laser beams, TK and allows you to survive things you couldn't normally. Devil has always manifested when the host has come close to dying or died outright.
Lifting "A" boulder is done by characters who aren't high-tiers in the Tekken series.
Um...who has lifted a boulder in Tekken?
no one is talking about devil gene, sherlock.
Uh, yean we were.
"He would've died by the soldiers that shot Jin. Jin survived, kicked the soldiers' asses and then Heihachi's."
Jin, who vanquished Ogre in The King of Iron Fist Tournament 3, was shot and mortally wounded by Heihachi. As his life slipped away, Jin transformed into a Devil.
So, maybe Ryu couldn't survive it but neither could Jin.
still sour about our last encounter?
No. Long as you don't keep lying and I have to expose you againa nd again for it.
do you? what we do know is that she trained Jin since he was old enough. that's what the point was. its not like ryu was training for his full 33 years either now is he?
Fair enough.
as for the rest of your not-so-smart comments, we really don't need to get into this again. save your smartass comments so that you don't get pwned by Lana yet again
Lana was upset at me because I flamed you for being a lying troll. Maybe I got anger issues but I got a little ticked when you flat out lied about what other members thought. It's very disrespectful in my mind.
Originally posted by Shin_NikkolasIs that even supposed to be a counter to what I said? 😕
Except Jin was DYING until the Devil Gene saved him. The Dark hadou is just the will to kill and banish your own personal feelings to try and get stronger and win. It's not a powerup that gives you laser beams, TK and allows you to survive things you couldn't normally. Devil has always manifested when the host has come close to dying or died outright.
Also, the Dark Hadou/Satsui no Hadou, gives Ryu increased power, so what the hell are you talking about?
Originally posted by Shin_NikkolasThat was an indication that people who aren't high-tiers can do said capability. Ripping off a tank turret and tossing it as if it was a baseball takes more strength than it does to lift a boulder. Instead of lifting boulders, people like Paul, Feng Wei, and Kazuya can shatter boulders, trees, and heavy robots with their hands. Not bothering to mention Asuka's punching power. Roger Jr. can punch someone upwards through a roof and make him blink out of sight two seconds afterwards. That so beats the hell out of lifting a boulder or maybe even "sinking" an island. 😆
Um...who has lifted a boulder in Tekken?
Originally posted by Shin_NikkolasDevil Jin has shown to survive it, and yes, he is a part of this thread. See first post. We're not going to say Evil Ryu can do it unless we see it. That's simply one feat that puts Devil Jin above Evil Ryu. That battle's been decided before in another thread though.
Uh, yean we were.
"He would've died by the soldiers that shot Jin. Jin survived, kicked the soldiers' asses and then Heihachi's."Jin, who vanquished Ogre in The King of Iron Fist Tournament 3, was shot and [b]mortally wounded by Heihachi. As his life slipped away, Jin transformed into a Devil.
So, maybe Ryu couldn't survive it but neither could Jin.[/b]
Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
No. Long as you don't keep lying and I have to expose you againa nd again for it.Fair enough.
Lana was upset at me because I flamed you for being a lying troll. Maybe I got anger issues but I got a little ticked when you flat out lied about what other members thought. It's very disrespectful in my mind.
Is that even supposed to be a counter to what I said?
Yep. Since I totally proved your statement wrong. Ryu can't survive the bullets and NEITHER can Jin without the Devil Gene.
Also, the Dark Hadou/Satsui no Hadou, gives Ryu increased power, so what the hell are you talking about?
It's Ryu's power.
Ripping off a tank turret and tossing it as if it was a baseball takes more strength than it does to lift a boulder.
And you have no proof that Jin is physically stronger than Bryan. KTHX.
Instead of lifting boulders, people like Paul, Feng Wei, and Kazuya can shatter boulders, trees, and heavy robots with their hands
And none of those people, gaps, are Jin Kazama.
Not bothering to mention Asuka's punching power. Roger Jr. can punch someone upwards through a roof and make him blink out of sight two seconds afterwards.
The OP made no mention of not allowing non-canon and wrong endings in so I guess I ca't disallow these stupid feats.
Originally posted by shin_gear
Bryan never made it as far as they did because he's not in their league. It was against each other that they used the Devil Gene, not against anyone else.I know we are. He overcame hordes of JACKs as his father and grandfather have. I'm sure it takes strength to do that. It takes a lot more strength to overcome a 50 foot ruin quaking monster.
Oh it takes strength. I'm saying that your assertion of greater strength isn't correct.
How many god damn Ryu vs. Jin threads are we going to have?
I mean, seriously? The originality here is at an all time low..
The first link I posted was only a month old.
Originally posted by Shin_NikkolasYou only proved to me that you're an idiot for the twentieth time this month.
Yep. Since I totally proved your statement wrong. Ryu can't survive the bullets and NEITHER can Jin without the Devil Gene.
Show me where I said Jin survived it without the Devil Gene please.
Originally posted by Shin_NikkolasWow..😐
It's Ryu's power.
Originally posted by Shin_NikkolasStated by the guy who's unable to prove Akuma became "vastly" stronger after sinking an island...😂
And you have no proof that Jin is physically stronger than Bryan. KTHX.
Jin's stronger than Bryan seeing as he can solo Devil Within. It takes more strength, durability, and skill to accomplish that than Bryan's feats in his ending, with the Devil Gene being used against Ogre only, by the way. I never ruled that out. Oh, and before you b*tch about DW being noncanonical, just be aware that it was never out of this discussion.
Originally posted by Shin_NikkolasCorrect. They're below him as they aren't able to solo Devil Within. Well Kazuya...maybe.
And none of those people, are Jin Kazama.
Originally posted by Shin_NikkolasCall them stupid as you wish. It doesn't put them below the other feats I mentioned.
The OP made no mention of not allowing non-canon and wrong endings in so I guess I ca't disallow these stupid feats.
Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=461592&highlight=title%3A%28Ryu+vs+Jin%29
No. Long as you don't keep lying and I have to expose you againa nd again for it.
Lana was upset at me because I flamed you for being a lying troll. Maybe I got anger issues but I got a little ticked when you flat out lied about what other members thought. It's very disrespectful in my mind
~Sado
Stated by the guy who's unable to prove Akuma became "vastly" stronger after sinking an island..
He's only developed new techniques and become capable of splitting Ayers' Rock instead of just an island....
But of course, to you, that's not vast improvement.
As for Devil Within...we'll see come Tekken 6.