Originally posted by Superboy Prime
I loved it. ultimecia was gay. Squall was annoying in the beginning, but he slowly began to change the more time he spent with Rinoa. The love story ticked many off as well, myself included. However after numerous playthroughs I began to appreciate it. It doesn't hurt the fact FFVIII had superior character development than FF7. But in the end Ultimecia ruined it.In any case you can't ***** about the intro. 131
Squall actually didn't change at all. He stayed as whiny and pissy all through the game as he was in the start. There really wasn't any character development at all in that game, anyway.
Anyway, FFVIII isn't a bad game in itself. Just as a Final Fantasy, it didn't live up. The draw system was downright boring, and the plot really was rushed towards the end which killed it. I like the game a lot, it was the first FF I actually beat, but it's really not that great.
Originally posted by Lana
Squall actually didn't change at all. He stayed as whiny and pissy all through the game as he was in the start. There really wasn't any character development at all in that game, anyway.
Opinion not fact. And yes I am aware I stated earlier the game had better character development than FFVII. I take it back. It is not a fact, but simply my opinion.
Originally posted by Lana
Anyway, FFVIII isn't a bad game in itself. Just as a Final Fantasy, it didn't live up. The draw system was downright boring, and the plot really was rushed towards the end which killed it. I like the game a lot, it was the first FF I actually beat, but it's really not that great.
It is great to me. However I can understand people not liking it. So I ain't gonna ***** about this.
Originally posted by shin_gear
FFVIII was not a bad game in my opinion.On a side note...I would like to play Lana in a game online...that would kick ass.
I don't play games online and don't really like multiplayer in most cases, so it'd never happen 😛
Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Opinion not fact. And yes I am aware I stated earlier the game had better character development than FFVII. I take it back. It is not a fact, but simply my opinion.It is great to me. However I can understand people not liking it. So I ain't gonna ***** about this.
I dunno, the fact that Squall was as much a surly teenager towards the end as he was at the start and the other characters didn't do much but serve as cheerleaders isn't quite simply opinion since it can clearly be seen in the game. There was SOME change, but it was only right at the very end and didn't really seem to make any sense at all.
I loved the game when I first played it and beat it, and I'm always going to like it. But there are much better games out there and especially among FF, VIII just can't really compare.
I think the plot would have been better if they had compacted the stuff in the beginning more and thus had been able to introduce the events of the end earlier, which would have made it not so rushed and pretty much pointless.
Originally posted by Lana
I don't play games online and don't really like multiplayer in most cases, so it'd never happen 😛I dunno, the fact that Squall was as much a surly teenager towards the end as he was at the start and the other characters didn't do much but serve as cheerleaders isn't quite opinion since it can clearly be seen in the game.
I loved the game when I first played it and beat it, and I'm always going to like it. But there are much better games out there and especially among FF, VIII just can't really compare.
I think the plot would have been better if they had compacted the stuff in the beginning more and thus had been able to introduce the events of the end earlier, which would have made it not so rushed and pretty much pointless.
What happens in the game is up to how you see it. Which is clearly an opinion. If you saw no character development then IMO you are blind. I, on the other hand, could go on and on establishing all the character development, but it will get boring and I am not in the mood for something like that. Not to mention in the end it is just how I saw it and someone else might come along and either say I'm bullshitting or say you're out of your mind. In the end the way we experience the games we play can difer so much I am beginning to realize it is somewhat pointless to try and convince someone else otherwise.
Edea was a nice nemesis. They loved her as a mother, and now they had to fulfill their duty as SeeD to take her out. When they got rid of Edea as the main antagonist at the end of the 2nd disc(if I'm not mistaken) I could already see the plot going downhill.
Originally posted by Superboy Prime
What happens in the game is up to how you see it. Which is clearly an opinion. If you saw no character development then IMO you are blind. I, on the other hand, could go on and on establishing all the character development, but it will get boring and I am not in the mood for something like that. Not to mention in the end it is just how I saw it and someone else might come along and either say I'm bullshitting or say you're out of your mind. In the end the way we experience the games we play can difer so much I am beginning to realize it is somewhat pointless to try and convince someone else otherwise.Edea was a nice nemesis. They loved her as a mother, and now they had to fulfill their duty as SeeD to take her out. When they got rid of Edea as the main antagonist at the end of the 2nd disc(if I'm not mistaken) I could already see the plot going downhill.
Blind? No.
Edea should have been kept on as the main enemy, I agree. But no, it just passes on and on so that when you get to Ultimecia you're just like "****, another one?"
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Squall was much different at the end IMO.
He really does not change that much, and what change did occur did in about 5 minutes towards the end. Not so much development but more "crap must speed up this romance plot".
And personally, I felt Squall and Rinoa's romance felt really contrived and not at all real. I mean, I hated Tidus and Yuna as well, but at least their love story was a lot more realistic.
Because Squall did not pick up a comatose Rinoa and walk all the way to Laguna's empire just so she could get medical attention. Because I did not see Squall put on a space suit and then go after Rinoa to rescue her. Because I did not see Squall start being nicer to Zell, who he classified a moron. Because I did not see Squall respect Laguna--who in the beginning Squall considered an idiot. Etc. Etc. The way I saw it Rinoa's personality began to influence Squall before he even realized it. Which is why he began to panic whenever he thought he would actually lose her. He had slowly grown attached to the very persistent Rinoa. And attachment is the exact opposite of his "loner" personality at the beginning of the game.
I give up. We had 2 completely different experiences. It is not really worth it. In my first playthrough I had all of those problems with Squall and Rinoa's romance. But maybe since I replayed the game 4 times I was able to grasp the story in more detail, but whatever. I won't strike to make you think otherwise.
Originally posted by Superboy Prime✅
Because Squall did not pick up a comatose Rinoa and walk all the way to Laguna's empire just so she could get medical attention. Because I did not see Squall put on a space suit and then go after Rinoa to rescue her. Because I did not see Squall start being nicer to Zell, who he classified a moron. Because I did not see Squall respect Laguna--who in the beginning Squall considered an idiot. Etc. Etc. The way I saw it Rinoa's personality began to influence Squall before he even realized it. Which is why he began to panic whenever he thought he would actually lose her. He had slowly grown attached to the very persistent Rinoa. And attachment is the exact opposite of his "loner" personality at the beginning of the game.I give up. We had 2 completely different experiences. It is not really worth it.
Originally posted by Superboy PrimeYou're right b/c things like this always show potential to manifest into a full blown argument disguised as debating.
It is not really worth it.
Originally posted by Superboy PrimeYou best believe they'll try and convince you though.
I won't strike to make you think otherwise.
Best to get out now like you said.
Anata wa wakarimasu ka.....
Re: Final Fantasy VIII
Originally posted by JaccArlington
Final Fantasy VIII. The most highly anticipated game of the 1998 release season. Some of you have merited it the worst in the series, however, I personally believe it the best. Everyone's thoughts? And, please, let's limit the amount of "I hate this game" comments to a minimum. I know you all do. One time telling me is enough...
....it came out in 1999. And at the time the graphics were top notch but best in the series I believe it not to be. Final Fantasy IV still holds my vote for the best of the series. It popularized many common console role-playing game features.
It was also one of the first role-playing games to feature a complex, involving plot. I don't consider 8 the worse; that belongs to 10. For goodness sake; you couldn't go through a random encounter without a cutscene happening. Let me play the game!
Anywho; onto 8. I really didn't like it overall but there are things I did like. The first two discs I would be more than happy to play but everything from then on I would rather discard. Also I found the draw feature pretty useless considering all you needed was the GFs and cure and you are set. The game was pretty easy considering you have (basically) unlimited uses of the GFs and one of them (Eden) could do more than 20,000 points of damage.
Having to collect items just to upgrade your weapons seemed pointless. I would rather go to a weapon's shop to buy some new stuff. Again the last two discs made no sense. They rushed the "true" villain when they already had an established character just to be quickly discarded at the beginning of the third disc.