Americans will you...

This question is skewed on two accounts.

First, "America" isn't going to convert to Islam. America, as a nation, can't convert to anything.

Second, even if the country were to convert, we wouldn't gain any real legitimacy in the eyes of those who wish us harm. So much of this "war on terror" has been propogated by the idea of religion or our "freedom", but it has more to do with our foreign policy in the region. That's why we've heard that the fundamentalists will end their aggressive stance. Because if the whole country converted, they assume that it would lead to the same fanatcism they experince and thusly effect how we interact with Christian, Jewish, Muslim, ect. nations.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Because you honestly have no interest in it, or do you just not like being told what to do?

This reminds of the movie Not without My Daughter, with Sally Field. Good Movie!

She faked it and left an Islamic country. Based on a true story.

Yes, I remember that movie.

But that is partly a culture shock. To think that women in Islamic countries (the non extreme cases, of course) are all sad and oppressed is wrong.
Many of them grew up in that kinda environment, and they don't mind.

This is really an interesting thread. What would people do? In the US, we have many militia groups that would come into play also. People would not stand for a hostile take over. However, there are many stupid people here that would sleep through a slow, long propaganda type proselytizing effort.

If not converting threatened the safety of your family, without any possibility of movement, I doubt you would not conform.

Their women are second class, possibly third class. I would never become that.

I think the women here would go nuts and kill them.....We have special ways of doing that.. 🐰

And don't forget, there are a lot of stressed out people in the US, and they would be just itching for a reason to take out some of their little frustrations in a more meaningful, and healthy way.....lol

Remember we have people like Timothy McVey living here....Terry Nichols lived within an 1 1/2 hours drive from me....This is militia country.. .lol

Originally posted by debbiejo
Their women are second class, possibly third class. I would never become that.

I sure hope so.

Your owner would never allow a class increase like that I assume.

Originally posted by anaconda
you can doubt alll you want, but I would never convert especially to a neanderthal like the extremist muslims. Fight fire wiht fire and I wouldnt stand alone

If your kid is small, they probably wouldn't kill him/her, but raise him/her as a Muslim. In the end, you died for nothing.
Like many before you did.

Theo van Gogh fought with movie, but still got killed.

No. Islam is poo poo 👇 😛

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
...and you would end up dead. Legaly. Crime of being a kafir is death.

If your kid is small, they probably wouldn't kill him/her, but raise him/her as a Muslim. In the end, you died for nothing.
Like many before you did.

Theo van Gogh fought with movie, but still got killed.

Then the answer would be kill all of them before they have a chance to kill you?

The girl in Theo Van Gogh's movie still fears for her life. She is too terrified to walk alone without some kind of protection, because she is definately a target of angry fanatic Muslims.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Then the answer would be kill all of them before they have a chance to kill you?

Maybe to you, but not to me.

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
The girl in Theo Van Gogh's movie still fears for her life. She is too terrified to walk alone without some kind of protection, because she is definately a target of angry fanatic Muslims.

You mean the girl in the movie, or the girl who made the movie with him?

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Maybe to you, but not to me...

To me? 😆 You are just not following me. Let put it to you simply: If the Christian world was truly threatened by the Muslim world, there would no longer be a Muslim world. I am not in support of that, but it is a fact.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
...and you would end up dead. Legaly. Crime of being a kafir is death.

If your kid is small, they probably wouldn't kill him/her, but raise him/her as a Muslim. In the end, you died for nothing.
Like many before you did.

Theo van Gogh fought with movie, but still got killed.

Originally posted by debbiejo
This reminds of the movie Not without My Daughter, with Sally Field. Good Movie!

She faked it and left an Islamic country. Based on a true story.

Yep, that was an excellent and disturbing movie.

Someone mentioned that the original question is flawed.

Just a note:- the question is rather hypothetical and isn´t just aimed at Americans. Its just that Osama or whoever it was mentioned that the "USA" should convert to Islam on that odd video.

Even if you are not American please feel free to express your opinion as if your were in the Americans situation, that is being told to convert.

Originally posted by Bardock42
You actually think that Islam is going to take over the west?

What's worse, is that she seems to condone any method used to accomplish the goal.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Many of them grew up in that kinda environment, and they don't mind.

You've said it yourself. They grew up in that environment, they don't know anything else. I agree it's a faulty argument that they need saving from their own lifestyle, but anyone will find happiness and normalcy in teh routine of their everyday existence.

There's nothing redemptive about a culture that doesn't allow the choice to be made for themselves; how they'll live.

Would you be happy living like that? And don't misunderstand, I'm not saying their culture needs to change, or have change forced upon it. I'm saying they might not make the same descisions, if they had the chance to make one at all.

...and you would end up dead. Legaly. Crime of being a kafir is death.

If your kid is small, they probably wouldn't kill him/her, but raise him/her as a Muslim. In the end, you died for nothing.

Originally posted by Bardock42
You actually think that Islam is going to take over the west?

Don't think that it will or it wont. Whatever really, I don't mind either way.

As far as I'm concerned, USA, UK, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait...same thing.

On one side are Christians who think their values should be universal and followed by everybody, that their culture is superior and should be flowed by everybody and their political system is the best and should be followed by everybody, and the others are Muslims and think their values should be universal and followed by everybody, that their culture is superior and should be flowed by everybody and their political system is the best and should be followed by everybody.

All the same really...

Atheists in Turkey and elsewhere are product of Islamic culture, just like atheists in USA are product of western Christian culture. Minus religion, obviously.

Originally posted by Devil King
You've said it yourself. They grew up in that environment, they don't know anything else. I agree it's a faulty argument that they need saving from their own lifestyle, but anyone will find happiness and normalcy in teh routine of their everyday existence.

There's nothing redemptive about a culture that doesn't allow the choice to be made for themselves; how they'll live.

Would you be happy living like that? And don't misunderstand, I'm not saying their culture needs to change, or have change forced upon it. I'm saying they might not make the same descisions, if they had the chance to make one at all.

Well you're entitled to an opinion. The fact remains that the western values are not universal. Hence the rest of the world.

Originally posted by Devil King
What's worse, is that she seems to condone any method used to accomplish the goal.