Americans will you...

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
You mean the girl in the movie, or the girl who made the movie with him?

The Muslim girl in the movie.

There was a 3-part program called "God's Warriors" on CNN I beleive. They discussed the zealotry of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.

Islam was the second part, and they mentioned the film by Theo Van Gogh, who had his throat cut open by an angry Muslim fanatic. The Muslim woman who participated in his film (as the model for the battered woman) is in dreaded fear for her life. She is afraid to walk alone now, knowing that someone is waiting to punish her for her part in the film.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Well you're entitled to an opinion. The fact remains that the western values are not universal. Hence the rest of the world.

And that's fine. I'll never say that the whole world should be any one way. But, I can certainly think that the freedom to be one thing or another is better than not having that option. Sorry, but that's a fact. And it isn't an exclusively western concept.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I seem to condone what exactly in relations to Islam?

Specifically, I'm not sure. But the tone of disdain for everything American is apparent in a majority of what you say. I'm not making accusations, but the mood of a lot of your posts suggest you're one sleepless night of internet research away from joining some fanatical anti-American group.

I've seen you get angry about sweeping generalizations made about Islam or Muslim cultures. All I've asked is that you not do the same for America. Not every American is a communion-chewing, nation-building, imperialist. Just like not every Muslim is an AK-47 toting, plane crashing "terrorist".

I haven't read a post where Lil B defends Islam 😬

Defending Islam isn't my point.

Originally posted by Bardock42

Your Are one of the most intelligent posters on this forum, I really respect you in every way. Thank God for debbiejo!

I know, it's because I'm god too.

Bless you my son. 😄

Originally posted by Devil King

I've seen you get angry about sweeping generalizations made about Islam or Muslim cultures.

I am about the most fierce opponent of Islam on this board, so you're right, you're not quite sure what you mean.

Its the American ''our way of thinking/doing is the best and everyone else is primitive and wrong'' which annoys the crap out of me.
Other people maybe don't want saving, and particularly not from America. Why aren't the Chinese or Japanese imposing their values on the world?

If people come to America, they should be expected to conform to American way of living (not other way around), but if they're not there, their values are their own and should be respected as that.

Not to argue or anything, but the American way of thinking means choosing to do what you want as far as your beliefs are. Nobody is forced. There are many subgroups that are very strong and convicted ofr their beliefs and dress the part as well.

Originally posted by debbiejo
I know, it's because I'm god too.

Bless you my son. 😄

Jesus, you scared me there for a second.

I read the quote of me and thought "Damn, I'm a ****ing moron"

It took you long enough.......Hahahaha

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I am about the most fierce opponent of Islam on this board, so you're right, you're not quite sure what you mean.

Originally posted by Devil King
Defending Islam isn't my point.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Its the American ''our way of thinking/doing is the best and everyone else is primitive and wrong'' which annoys the crap out of me.
Other people maybe don't want saving, and particularly not from America. Why aren't the Chinese or Japanese imposing their values on the world?

That's George Bush's attitude, yes. But that's not how we all feel. It's that generalization I'm talking about. And that's what I said. Maybe they don't want to be saved. But exisiting in a society where you don't have the right to make that descision for yourself, personally, will never be a better thing. I don't think it's America's place to spread freedom. That's the job of the people in those countries. I have often quoted Roosevelt and it makes perfect sense to do it, again.

In the truest sense, freedom cannot be bestowed; it must be achieved.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
If people come to America, they should be expected to conform to American way of living (not other way around), but if they're not there, their values are their own and should be respected as that.

If it outrages you that "America" operates that way, then don't you think it might not be a very good way to go about expressing your own opinion?

Also, I think China does a lot to spread their ideology. As for Japan, they're like the Jews, they don't want any more members.

Originally posted by debbiejo
It took you long enough.......Hahahaha

No, see, because you wrote what was in the quote you are the ****ing moron 🙂

Originally posted by debbiejo
Not to argue or anything, but the American way of thinking means choosing to do what you want as far as your beliefs are. Nobody is forced. There are many subgroups that are very strong and convicted ofr their beliefs and dress the part as well.

Originally posted by Bardock42
No, see, because you wrote what was in the quote you are the ****ing moron 🙂

Nobody is forced to do something in America? Haha. It's that kind of oblivious humour that gets me laughing.

😕

Originally posted by debbiejo
No, no...I'm stupid. Remember? You're the moron.. 🙄

You forgot the smilie with that...crybaby

Idiot!

Originally posted by debbiejo
You forgot the smilie with that...crybaby

Idiot!

Originally posted by debbiejo
No, no...I'm stupid. Remember? You're the moron.. 🙄

What religion have you been forced to be then?

😕

I think what he means is that Americans do not have freedoms they themselves believe to have.

The sad thing about Americans is that they can easily be lolled into many things because they are not invested in what is important

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I think what he means is that Americans do not have freedoms they themselves believe to have.