American Pit Bull Terriers Banned

Started by Da Pittman12 pages

Let say that you are correct and the entire United States should ban the ownership of Pitbulls, what should be doing with the several million of them?

Option 1:
Release them to the wild:
If they are so dangerous why would we release them to the wild where the impact of several million new predators would devastate the wildlife population assuming that domesticated animals could even survive?

Option 2:
Give them to another country:
Well if the US doesn’t want them who else would except to make them fighting dogs or dinner, sounds like a nice life there.

Option 3:
Take care of them:
So you would think that it would be right to kill off nearly and entire species for just being what we did to them?

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Originally posted by KharmaDog
Did you completely miss my point on purpose? Or did you willingly choose to ignore it?
I missed your point? How so? You implied that dogs were bred for a specific purpose, that they have certain traits (Pit bulls and aggression) and I rebutted, saying that all dogs can potential have those traits: where did I miss your point?

As for other dogs that were bred to fight: I agree in case such as presa canarios and the like, however boxers and english bulldogs have been bred as companions over the last hundred years, and so are much less likely to exhibit aggression as a genetically desired aspect of the breed.
Yet, people are still breeding Pit Bulls to fight, not giving them the chance to be "companions"...


Stats mean shit for the most part. When people tell me chihuahua's bite more people than pitbulls it means nothing. When Chihuahua's rip the face off a kid, the arm apart of an old lady, or kill someone, then that point will have some validity.
Pomeranian's mauled a baby...stats still not mean anything?


I love dogs. I believe in responsible ownership of dogs. And if an owner of a pitbull is unwilling to admit that they own a dog that was bred for aggression, strength and brutality, and that those traits could at any time raise to the surface, than they are both irresponsible, naive, and a tad bit on the stupid side.
My dog wasn't bred for that: my family has owned his lineage all the way down to his great-grandmother. So how am I irresponsible, naive, or stupid? My brother has a pitt bull that was treated like crap, left out in the cold, starved and all sorts of cruelness, yet he's trained him, and he's the most friendly dog I've ever seen.

Originally posted by Robtard
I'm coming over, no need for either of you to come out in a hurry.
Perv! 😠

My dog wasn't bred for that: my family has owned his lineage all the way down to his great-grandmother. So how am I irresponsible, naive, or stupid? My brother has a pitt bull that was treated like crap, left out in the cold, starved and all sorts of cruelness, yet he's trained him, and he's the most friendly dog I've ever seen.

See, That just goes to show you that these wonderful dogs can forgive and forget. They truly have a heart of gold even after being abused. These dogs will kill them selfs to please there owner and they are very determend .

10 being prosecuted in England today today, after being pulled for dogfighting. May their nuts roast in whatever hell there might be.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
As are Pitbulls, all the other fighting breeds were breed for aggression, and other traits that would help them in the fighting ring and as the other over a long period of time this is no longer their primary use.

It's taken over 100 years to bred out the aggression in various breeds. Are you stating that PitBull Breeders did it faster than the other breeders? That being said, bred behaviour that is indicitive to each breed still can be found in said breed, no matter how diluted.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
There is no question that Pitbulls have more fatal attacks than another breed but that is not the point all fighting dogs in your opinion should be banned.

Please post where I said that.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
Pitbulls are not more likely to attack,

Please quote your research.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
The “meanest” dog I have ever known was a German Shepherd.

We are not talking about individual dogs, that would be a pointless debate. We are talking about breeds.

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
I missed your point? How so? You implied that dogs were bred for a specific purpose, that they have certain traits (Pit bulls and aggression) and I rebutted, saying that all dogs can potential have those traits: where did I miss your point?

I did not imply anything, It's a fact that dogs were bred for specific purposes. Saying that all dogs are capable of aggression is far different than saying that all dogs have been bred to emphasize their aggresion. Again, it seems that you miss the point.

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
Yet, people are still breeding Pit Bulls to fight, not giving them the chance to be "companions"...

It seems as though you are agreeing with me here without even realizing it.

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
Pomeranian's mauled a baby...stats still not mean anything?

So your argument is that 1 attack on a baby out of the tens of thousands of poms that have existed holds statistical merit in any argument whatsoever?

Once again, singular examples of dog behaviour do not dictate the characteristics endemic to the breed. Multiple examples, physical appearance and the very purpose that they were bred for, is a far better meter stick by which to measure a breed's characteristics.

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
My dog wasn't bred for that: my family has owned his lineage all the way down to his great-grandmother. So how am I irresponsible, naive, or stupid? My brother has a pitt bull that was treated like crap, left out in the cold, starved and all sorts of cruelness, yet he's trained him, and he's the most friendly dog I've ever seen.

Once again, people seem to have no concept of the work that breeders take to impart or dimish characteristics in particular dog breeds. A family of humans owning a family of dogs has little or no effect on breed integrity. As for the example of your brother, that's very nice, but proves nothing.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
It's taken over 100 years to bred out the aggression in various breeds. Are you stating that PitBull Breeders did it faster than the other breeders? That being said, bred behaviour that is indicitive to each breed still can be found in said breed, no matter how diluted.
What are you taking about? Please show me where you get this information from, I would really like to see it. All I said is that the primary purpose for most of the common “fighting” dog is no longer fighting. The percentage of Pitbulls that are still active in the ring is a very small percentage of the total population. Fighting dogs when found are destroyed, and even the ones that are still bread for fighting are sold to other fighters and not into the general populace. Most of the Pitbulls that you find come from many generations of household pets.

Originally posted by KharmaDog

Please post where I said that.
What do you want me to find? I was implying that with your logic that fighting dogs are “prone to attack” then they all should be banned or in other words killed because what would you do with them if no one could have them.

Originally posted by KharmaDog

Please quote your research.
Same can be said of you, I have not seen one post or any reference to back up your claim which I have posted several.

Originally posted by KharmaDog

We are not talking about individual dogs, that would be a pointless debate. We are talking about breeds.
I know we are not, the reference was about personal experience which I have a lot of.

Originally posted by The Grey Fox
HUMANS were trained to hunt and kill. We trained them that way. It's in their nature to be psychopathic, so I'm supporting the ban.

I agree, lets ban people.

Not all pit bulls are bad. This one seems very pleasant regarding the circumstances.

YouTube video

That was fugging disgusting, you are gross for posting that.

The guy got free ACL tickets for it though.

wtf