Apocalypse (classic) vs. Firestorm (current)

god, it's so sad and pathetic what they've done to apocalypse...he should be a global, perhaps even, universal threat....not some little peon who runs meetings with a group of freaks and weirdos

Of the 20 [now 21] responses to this thread, none of them have been regarding who wins this... ermmdur

Originally posted by Galan007
Of the 20 [now 21] responses to this thread, none of them have been regarding who wins this... ermmdur

According to llagrok, current Firestorm is Transcendent level.

So, uh...

Spite? durermm

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
According to llagrok, current Firestorm is Transcendent level.

Originally posted by Galan007
Transcendent level?

Skyfather

Originally posted by llagrok
Firestorm is supposed to be Trans+ level.

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
Skyfather

High-Herald level is how I've always thought of him.

I think we need a thread that discusses just what all these names for levels are.

Transcendent level? I've never heard that one before, it's all getting very confusing.

Originally posted by Galan007
I wouldn't say he's Skyfather level.

High-Herald level is how I've always thought of him.

According to the KMC list, he's Low-Herald. Like Apocalypse. 313

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
According to the KMC list, he's Low-Herald. Like Apocalypse. 313

can you point me in the direction of this list?

Originally posted by boriquaking55
can you point me in the direction of this list?

It's been here for some time...

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t447826.html

Nice, that's where people are getting transcendent from. I had actually never heard that term before.

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
According to the KMC list, he's Low-Herald. Like Apocalypse. 313

Having the ability to transform any substance into an element of his choosing, being able to create wormholes/boom tubes from thin air, having the ability to travel from point A to point B instantly, able to see into the future through subatomic wormholes, can manifest enormous GL-esque constructs and use them against his opponents, has enough power to defeat an amped up Kalibak, [whom pwned Orion just before that], transmutation of living matter, ability to absorb energy, he can also change the type of energy blast used against him into something completely different, etc, etc...

More then low-herald imo.

Originally posted by boriquaking55
Nice, that's where people are getting transcendent from.
I had actually never heard that term before.

So, what level is "classic" Apoc? Low-mid? I just can't see him being placed under top-tier herald.

Originally posted by boriquaking55
So, what level is "classic" Apoc? Low-mid? I just can't see him being placed under top-tier herald.

apoc dies hard and fast.

Firestorm is like Silver Surfer, but weaker. FS shitstomp Jobbercalypse.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Firestorm is like Silver Surfer, but weaker. FS shitstomp Jobbercalypse.

A weaker Silver Surfer wouldn't beat Apocalypse.

Recently in the JLA wedding special. Batman said Firestorm is potentially the most powerful being on earth. Now that is something.

Originally posted by llagrok
A weaker Silver Surfer wouldn't beat Apocalypse.

ur giving apoc way to much credit here.