Deathstroke, Batman, jason todd vs Wolverine, Captain America and Bucky

Originally posted by masterbruce
batman has smoke pellets, explosive batarangs, flash pellets, acids, lasers, and a whole lot of other stuff

he and jason can def take down cap and bucky with that

then they help out DS and take down logan

none of that really would take capt out or bucky for that matter.........also laser......come on man does that sound like standered equitpment to you...........when was the last time batman pulled out a laser gun lol

lol if the fight went the way your saying then DS would be taken out well before the fight between the others had ended.

no way logan takes out DS

hell DS has faced off against the entire Teen Titans, please don't tell me Logan is more powerful than the titans

batman throws the gas grenades, but since he will have a gas mask (standard) he can fight just fine while Cap will struggle to breathe and see

Originally posted by Battlehammer
his style really has not change he still fights the same.
yes but there still going to be shooting it at the same time so they likly run out of ammo when bucky did which is unlikly to happen since the fight would be over by then lol.
batman not one to sit there and do nothing and he has attack people ocne he found out he was not hitting them with his projectiles,
assuming they hit him which again eh could last more then a second dodgign bullets. also the teams arnt that far away from one another that would leave capt and wolverien ample time to make this close quarters.
which would neevr happen. Your talkign about wolevrien capt and bucky here. they woulf simplly charge them. They would not back up they want to go melee.
true but the thing is thats not what i mean. what i mean is the teams arnt far away from eachother it take but a second maybe two to close the cap. there only like 20 or 30 feet from eachother at best.
thats assumeing bucky was taken out.

30 feet is enough distance though,i mean it takes about a sec for Cap/Wolv to cover that,takes less then that for Team one to open fire.

also,Team 2 trying to take it mellee ends with them dead,rushing at guys with grenades+guns=dead Cap and Bucky.

If Batmans projectiles miss and he realises that he will fail in H2H then he won't charge in,he will make a plan.Now As The Explosions and gunfire will force team 2 back then my Bucky+grenade=boom equation works,which ends in the same way.So after that we have tasers and daggers as well,so even if team 2 make the distance to team 1 they still might get electrocuted/gutted/decapitated ect.

Originally posted by masterbruce
no way logan takes out DS

hell DS has faced off against the entire Teen Titans, please don't tell me Logan is more powerful than the titans

Originally posted by masterbruce
batman throws the gas grenades, but since he will have a gas mask (standard) he can fight just fine while Cap will struggle to breathe and see

and could damage batmans mask making batman be KO.

Though like I had said on a pm to martian_manhunter I think due to that it would be a 5/10 split

Originally posted by Battlehammer

capt could withstand sow thing like that a good long time actually.

based on what do you say that?

Originally posted by Martian_mind
30 feet is enough distance though,i mean it takes about a sec for Cap/Wolv to cover that,takes less then that for Team one to open fire.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
also,Team 2 trying to take it mellee ends with them dead,rushing at guys with grenades+guns=dead Cap and Bucky.

If Batmans projectiles miss and he realises that he will fail in H2H then he won't charge in,he will make a plan.Now As The Explosions and gunfire will force team 2 back then my Bucky+grenade=boom equation works,which ends in the same way.So after that we have tasers and daggers as well,so even if team 2 make the distance to team 1 they still might get electrocuted/gutted/decapitated ect.

dodgeing missles and explossions are nothing new to them. They did it day in and out. They could deffiently clear the cap before being taken out by such methods.

Hell in a recent wolverine comic capt and wolverine did this while tanks were firing at them.

This is what these guys lived to do for around 15 years.

You could not pick better guys to put in such a sistuation.

but like I said in pm the gas makes this 5/10 split.

Originally posted by masterbruce
based on what do you say that?

base dont the fact his peak-human abilties give him greater resistence to such attacks.

based on the fact he did it before.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
based on training........

base dont the fact his peak-human abilties give him greater resistence to such attacks.

based on the fact he did it before.

training won't help much

and when did Cap withstand gas attack before?

Originally posted by masterbruce
training won't help much

and when did Cap withstand gas attack before?

training actaully does help quite a bit with such things.

not mention the abiltiy to hold your breath many times longer then any normal human

Originally posted by Battlehammer
I wish i had the issue. I try and find it in the respect thread.

training actaully does help quite a bit with such things.

not mention the abiltiy to hold your breath many times longer then any normal human

the gas will knock an ordinary human unconscious

now, assuming Cap has enhanced resistance and training, he might not get knocked out

BUT he will be severely weakened and struggle to keep up, during which Batman will go on the offensive and take advantage of Cap's weakened state

Originally posted by Battlehammer

not mention the abiltiy to hold your breath many times longer then any normal human

unless he can hold his breath for over 30 min WHILE fighting, he loses anyways

I give it to team Marvel.

What we have there is two of the most dangerous fighter of all the Marvel Universe (both class 7), and in these two, one of them can hang some times with the Hulk, who could PWN team one. Cap and Wolverine can easily go tango with Spider-Man too (Wolverine have a best record aginst Spidey that Spidey of Wolverine). If they can touch Spider-Man, I'm pretty sure that Batman, even if he's a bad mofo, would be pwn easely. In fact, Batman, in my eyes, is the weak link of team one.

Why? A bullet from Red Hood can kill Cap. Batman have nothing like that. Is only option is go against WS. Whatever the match up, I don't see team two loosing, Wolverine is a top fighter. I don't know if you realise what it means to have him in team two.

I personnaly think that the match up would be more fair like this:

DS
Batman
Red Hood

vs

Cap
Punisher
Winter Soldier

Team 1 . A Batman and Deathstroke team-up is a beast .

I concur Team one

batman and deathstroke are going to make a better team than Captain America and Wolverine. In the sense that Wolverine would be incline to do his own thing. Fight his own way. Where as deathstroke would see the bigger picture and would be more willing to work with batman.

Jason todd should be able to take bucky 6/10

Deathstroke and wolverine would be going at it for quite a while if they pair up.

then this match would be decided between batman and Captain America. Who ever wins this match wins the battle. And I am leaning towards batman winning because he has more arsenal. And he knows how to use it. Not to say that win is going to be easy.