Originally posted by BattlehammerIt's funny how you are not proving anything. Other than you're full of sh!t.
....what does that prove?he had admatium. just because to artist draws it a certain way that does not take away from the fact sabertooth for a fact had adamtium.
funny how your argueing a known fact with me
I show a scan from the exact comic Creed slices up Walter that clearly shows normal claws and you show nothing.
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
I think it's obvious his healing fact isn't worth a damm. I don't care what Ranarak and Thing said. Walter HIMSELF stated Ben was the stronger and by far. I mean sh!t look at how easily Jobbernaut was beating Walter. That was a beating son.
Uh huh? you mean like when Vision was destroying his organs and they were healing back in seconds, causing Vision to be shocked he still was alive? Stop talking out of your ass. THING HIMSELF stated Sasquatch was stronger, a being that fought bother Walter and Sasquatch said Walter WAS stronger. Walter destroyed exo-suit thing, which was said to be almost exactally like classic Thing. Honestly this is a joke right? no one can be this dense
Uh huh...ignore what actually happened in the comic now are we. As we know that didn't happen at all
Well add it to the list, here's two more scans that state Sasquatch > Thing [Strength]
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Super Skrull who has Thing amplified strength even says "and realized with bone-chilling certainty that his full strength (Super Skrull) may not be sufficient".
1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF10d.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF10e.jpg
"Second strongest legs on the face of the Earth" [Hulk #1]
1. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Hulk_Annual_1979_008_30.jpg
Well let's break it down, not even bothering with feats as Clobberin Time! has been ignoring for solely for just that one quote. So here are far more quotes compared to his one, plus shown earlier this is their last battle they had.
Thing: "Sheesh! Your bigger, stronger, talk better than me and played proball! There must be something I can beat you at!"
1. http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g159/A_Flight9/72652_vgrim3.jpg
Ranark: "You appear far stronger than the other oranged-skin one"
1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Two-in-One084_19.jpg
Narrator: "and realized with bone-chilling certainty that his full strength (Super Skrull) may not be sufficient". Even in the scan below state Super Skrull is an augmented Thing in strength.
1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF10d.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF10e.jpg
Narrator: "Second strongest legs on the face of the Earth" [Hulk #1]
1. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Hulk_Annual_1979_008_30.jpg
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Battles
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Alpha Flight #94 (Vol.1): Thing [Sasquatch I]
After being controlled by Headlok, he makes Sasquatch slip into a blind furry attacking Ben, who at the time was wearing his exo-suit. Mr. Fantastic made to "restore most of the strength he used to possess". Sasquatch dominates him, even stopping Ben from even landing one hit. Headlok also mentions Sasquatch's power increase when he becomes angry "I feel Sasquatch's physical surge".
1. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight94-04.jpg
2. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight94-05.jpg
3. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight94-06.jpg
4. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight94-12.jpg
5. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight94-13.jpg
Originally posted by SoljerThat's not fair. I am bringing facts to this debate and am not calling anybody names. Those comments are uncalled for.
Mungi, Capt.Be the bigger men.
This guy's a fanboy and barely a step below troll. Hit the ignore button, or don't return to the thread, or only have this discussion with someone a bit more intelligent, or any/all of the above!
Easy as that.
And to Mungi I know you're not gonna throw the towel in yet so lets do continue. You say Walter has "unlimited strength" correct? Then how come his feats don't back up that claim? If that were true he would overwhelm everybody he fights but...he does not. He needed help to hold up a collapsing building, struggles to lift a door one time etc. And it's a fact he was getting overpowered by Juggernaut when they fought. Juggy knocked him down atleat 3 times during that fight.
Originally posted by King_MungiI just wish some of those voters would jump in.
Yeah your properly right I proved my point, I really wasn't getting anywhere with him.Poll results are..odd
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
And to Mungi I know you're not gonna throw the towel in yet so lets do continue. You say Walter has "unlimited strength" correct? Then how come his feats don't back up that claim? If that were true he would overwhelm everybody he fights but...he does not. He needed help to hold up a collapsing building, struggles to lift a door one time etc. And it's a fact he was getting overpowered by Juggernaut when they fought. Juggy knocked him down atleat 3 times during that fight. I just wish some of those voters would jump in.
Short and sweet....he's like the Hulk. The more pain or rage he experiences Tanaraq takes over ie. becoming stronger. He does not have unlimited strength at base strength, just like Hulk.
1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight23-17.jpg
Hulk is said to have unlimited strength, yet he has still got owned even by a snake and an electrical net and various other characters such as Abomination, etc. Every character has bad showings, even Thing. No where did I state Sas overwhelms everyone, nor am I giving Sasquatch a 10/10 victory here. I think your getting the wrong impression here.
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Quotes:
These are pre-Tanaraq knowledge, ie. before his upgrade
Machine Man: "Sasquatch's sensational strength is almost beyond comprehension." Machine Man who prior to this issue fought the Hulk and defeated him says that about Sasquatch
1. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/MM18-14.jpg
Department H: Sasquatch possesses "almost limitless strength"
1. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/MM18-07.jpg
Feats:
Juggernaut definetly did not overpower Sasquatch and so what if he was knocked down? He got right back up and landed massive blows none the worse for wear, and the biggest blow of the fight was Sasquatch on Juggernaut. No one won that fight, but Jugz looked worse in the end. With the building collasping, notice Thing was struggling far more then Sasquatch was with his shaky voice. Sas even held it longer and caught it in mid-air from falling.
In the end is Sasquatch stronger then Thing? most definetly. Is Sasquatch unbeatable? Not in the least
You guys that are using marvel two in one Thing is stupid, because that Thing is way waaaay weaker in that series, result of bad writing... for example in the Marvel two in one where he fights Wonder Man, the Thing could barely pick up Wondy's two ton dumbbell.. so if you think using anything that occured during that series as concrete proof you are being delusional.
Originally posted by mrbigguy
You guys that are using marvel two in one Thing is stupid, because that Thing is way waaaay weaker in that series, result of bad writing... for example in the Marvel two in one where he fights Wonder Man, the Thing could barely pick up Wondy's two ton dumbbell.. so if you think using anything that occured during that series as concrete proof you are being delusional.
I used other examples other than that if you read what I wrote. Regardless even mentioned in the same issue, Sasquatch was weak due to the transformation and Thing still said it.
Sasquatch as noted has limitless strength stated on panel, so Thing being stronger then limitless strength? Errrr?. Check out the Sasquatch respect thread as he has done things that are far above Thing.
Originally posted by mrbigguyExactly. Plus Sasquatch is not written like he was back in the 70's. The guy has not had a decent feat since the 1980's or so.
You guys that are using marvel two in one Thing is stupid, because that Thing is way waaaay weaker in that series, result of bad writing... for example in the Marvel two in one where he fights Wonder Man, the Thing could barely pick up Wondy's two ton dumbbell.. so if you think using anything that occured during that series as concrete proof you are being delusional.
Originally posted by King_MungiBut Sasquatch has not shown limitless strength like the Hulk has. Not even close, look at their fight. Hulk overpowred him in the end. And actually Sasquatch noted Hulk was getting stronger but he said nothing about himself getting stronger.
I used other examples other than that if you read what I wrote. Regardless even mentioned in the same issue, Sasquatch was weak due to the transformation and Thing still said it.Sasquatch as noted has limitless strength stated on panel, so Thing being stronger then limitless strength? Errrr?. Check out the Sasquatch respect thread as he has done things that are far above Thing.
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
Exactly. Plus Sasquatch is not written like he was back in the 70's. The guy has not had a decent feat since the 1980's or so.
*sigh* So you will ignore Thing's low feats, but not Sasquatch? Actually he is written about the same, and most of his major feats are in the 1980-1990's. Please do some research as you clearly don't know what your talking about.
FYI, Sasquatch apperance was in Uncanny X-Men #120 (Apr 1979). Marvel two-in-one #83 (January 1982), Alpha Flight #1 vol.1 (August 1983), etc, etc.. At least get the dates right, as all of Sasquatch feats happen way after 1970's. Like I said earlier, research goes a long way
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
But Sasquatch has not shown limitless strength like the Hulk has. Not even close, look at their fight. Hulk overpowred him in the end. And actually Sasquatch noted Hulk was getting stronger but he said nothing about himself getting stronger.
Ummm..what? He punched a hole in reality not to long ago, tossed 250 tons 1000 feet with ease, dragged and lifted out a fully equipped destroyed and pushed it back out to see, halted a Boxer a feat the Collector thought to be impossible, etc, etc. Honestly what has Thing done to even come close to that? He is stated multiple times to have unlimited strength, but your simply choosing to ignore it? You do know Hulk has been ko'ed from one shot from the Wrecker, curb stomped by the U-Foes [2 pages and half the members did it..and with ease' and he has unlimited strength as well. I don't think your grasping it.
Did you ignore what I wrote? that was pre knowledge of Tanaraq. He didn't know he could increase his strength, and was upset and felt like HE was the monster and lost the drive to fight even stating it multiple times.
Originally posted by King_MungiThis post was pointless. If you read my post I said Sasquatch didn't have a decent feat since the 1980's. All of the feats you quoted were from guess what? The 1980's!!!!! 😱
*sigh* So you will ignore Thing's low feats, but not Sasquatch? Actually he is written about the same, and most of his major feats are in the 1980-1990's. Please do some research as you clearly don't know what your talking about.FYI, Sasquatch apperance was in Uncanny X-Men #120 (Apr 1979). Marvel two-in-one #83 (January 1982), Alpha Flight #1 vol.1 (August 1983), etc, etc.. At least get the dates right, as all of Sasquatch feats happen way after 1970's. Like I said earlier, research goes a long way
Originally posted by King_MungiWhere was his "unlimited strength" when he was fighting Juggernaut? The Wrecking Crew? Sabretooh? Wendigo? Wild Child? That's right it does not exist. 😎Ummm..what? He punched a hole in reality not to long ago, tossed 250 tons 1000 feet with ease, dragged and lifted out a fully equipped destroyed and pushed it back out to see, halted a Boxer a feat the Collector thought to be impossible, etc, etc. Honestly what has Thing done to even come close to that? He is stated multiple times to have unlimited strength, but your simply choosing to ignore it? You do know Hulk has been ko'ed from one shot from the Wrecker, curb stomped by the U-Foes [2 pages and half the members did it..and with ease' and he has unlimited strength as well. I don't think your grasping it.
Did you ignore what I wrote? that was pre knowledge of Tanaraq. He didn't know he could increase his strength, and was upset and felt like HE was the monster and lost the drive to fight even stating it multiple times.
Do you want to compare high showing versus low showings? Ben has never been put down by machine gun fire for starters, Sasquatch has. Ben has never been put down by wooden spikes, Sasquatch has.
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
This post was pointless. If you read my post I said Sasquatch didn't have a decent feat since the 1980's. All of the feats you quoted were from guess what? The 1980's!!!!! 😱
You said "Plus Sasquatch is not written like he was back in the 70's" when he debuted in 1979 and joined an on-going in 1983. Also you missed my post once again, STOP IGNORING WHAT I WROTE. He has had major feats in the 1990's and just recently in 2000 he punched a hole in reality destroying the trans-displacement trap. Stop talking out of your ass, as you have been proven wrong so many times in this thread
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
Where was his "unlimited strength" when he was fighting Juggernaut? The Wrecking Crew? Sabretooh? Wendigo? Wild Child? That's right it does not exist. 😎
Aaaaaannnd this is the last time I'm going to address you as your clearly a fool.
Against Juggernaut no one one, but Jugz looked worse. Against the Crew it was said Tanaraq was charging them in that fight by Marvel themselves. Against Sabretooth that has already been addressed and every member agrees it was PIS/CIS. Such as he killed the immortal Wendigo? ooooh. Considering Wendigo > Hulk, how is that bad? Against Wild Child sneak attack and PIS as noted even by newsarama
Hulk has unlimited strength and guess what? he loses too
Gamma Corps
1. http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Scans/WWH_GC_3_DCP_0033.jpg
Wrecker
1. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/Defenders_019_04.jpg
2. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/Defenders_019_05.jpg
U-Foes
1. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/HeroesForHire1p10.jpg
2. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/HeroesForHire1p11.jpg
3. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/HeroesForHire1p12.jpg
4. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/HeroesForHire1p13.jpg
Hulk has also lost to a snake, knocked out from an electrical net, beaten by Wolverine, Abomination, etc. Honestly you have to be the most dense poster here, all this has been addressed and everyone else seems to grasp it except for you. You ignore everything, while holding onto things which have been proven false.
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
Do you want to compare high showing versus low showings? Ben has never been put down by machine gun fire for starters, Sasquatch has. Ben has never been put down by wooden spikes, Sasquatch has.
I asked when this feat happened, and you NEVER said when. Your an idiot read the rules, Sasquatch has taken ARMOR PEIRCING MACHINE GUN FIRE and it didn't put him down or even penetrate his skin, he has taken 6 greandes to the face with no damage, taken tank blasts with no damage. Are you really this slow? read the rules, we know Sasquatch can take wooden spikes, but in a story which was even already agreed here to be bad such as killing Wendigo had the wooden spikes. It's defined as PIS/CIS
Honestly, this is it. I should have listened, you really are a senseless fanboy.
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Originally posted by Soljer
This guy's a fanboy and barely a step below troll. Hit the ignore button, or don't return to the thread, or only have this discussion with someone a bit more intelligent, or any/all of the above!
Yes, yes he is.
Hey, just because I don't agree with you don't call me a fool, senseless fanboy, slow, idiot and other things. Calling names is a sign you are loosing a debate. I am keeping my cool and I am using cannon evidence. Just because you don't like it keep the bashing to yourself.
So here we go. Now Juggernaut was beating Sasquatch in their fight. Walter was knocked down numerous times compared to Juggy. Plus Sasquatch even told Juggy to give him a minute to catch his breath.
And all of those durability feats I posted are all very recent and do not support this so called "unlimited strength" you keep talking about. Who in your opinion is actually stronger than Sasquatch?
If he actually had unlimited strength why the hell was he getting overpowered by the Wrecking Crew? Or why couldn't he put down Juggernaut? Or Thing? I remember Walter wailing on ol' Ben but he just couldn't keep him down. Ben actually almost broke Sasquatches Jaw! And yea that is cannon!
