Respect Ganon, King of Evil

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Well....I think Aonuma or someone actually said Four Swords Adventures is THE first Zelda.

...despite it being a sequel to Four Swords which is a sequel to the Minish Cap?

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Well....I think Aonuma or someone actually said Four Swords Adventures is THE first Zelda.

Meh...The interview I looked at was out of date then.

Originally posted by Peach
Oh, knock it off both of you.

Though, for the record - there is a difference between never dying, and dying but not stayind dead. Personally I think Ganon falls into the latter category.

And, how did this turn into a timeline debate? 😖

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Agreed.

And, how did this turn into a timeline debate? 😖

I dunno. It was a debate over whether or not Ganondorf died at the end of TP then CPT came in whining that I was dispecting Ganondorf because I was debating that he did die.

i was going to add my own ownage post against cpt, but when i look at yours, i seriously dont know what else i could have added
gj 😄

Originally posted by ESB -1138
I dunno. It was a debate over whether or not Ganondorf died at the end of TP then CPT came in whining that I was dispecting Ganondorf because I was debating that he did die.

Wait, there is no possible way that Ganondorf died in TP when he is in WW which is after TP.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
C) Sephiroth is the same character in FF7 and Advent Children and guess what; he died in FF7. We see a villain being revived all the time in gaming it's nothing new. And Twilight Princess takes place in the OoT child timeline where as Wind Waker takes place in the OoT adult timeline because Zelda has two different timelines because of the events of OoT and thus Ganondorf can die in one game and appear in another. And again when did I dispect Ganondorf? Because I'm not a mindless fanboy that can't stand to see there favorite character actually be defeated?

aah... never mind...

The multiple continuations is one theroy... yes

Ganondorf has displayed clairsentience/clairvoyance/audience.

I think the only Nintendo created characters that have been more sinister and frightening then Ganon are Ridley, Dark Samus, Mother Brain, and Giygas.

I mean you can call him the King of Evil or Prince of Darkness or a thief or a demon but the bottom line is that he is a villain in a game series, all but one of which has been marketed as a game for children who in essence is a genocidal murderer.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
all but one of which has been marketed as a game for children who in essence

Agreed, yet another of the many reasons certain feats are just as good s toonforce or useless when making comparisons with real physics. Their just jolly funny little animations for children to enjoy.

I lol'd.

Play a Zelda game, ignorantly bantering on about something you know nothing about is unbecoming, even for a troll.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste

Play a Zelda game, ignorantly bantering on about something you know nothing about is unbecoming, even for a troll.

Replying in first person is most unbecoming

Also Ganon is prob the only character I would actually like to play the game to see, I dislike Link and Midna and some of the other characters ive seen in screenshots, but Ganon himself is by far the more interesting and ofcourse more evil out of them all.

Replying in first person is most unbecoming

Also Ganon is prob the only character I would actually like to play the game to see, I dislike Link and Midna and some of the other characters ive seen in screenshots, but Ganon himself is by far the more interesting and ofcourse more evil out of them all.

but Ganon really is one of the most interesting characters.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste

Judging a character by a screenshot. Intelligent. You know little about these characters compared to myself =P

Corrected

Not wanting to get into timeline debates, but considering what the developers said about the post-wind waker regarding Ganon's influence spreading over the great sea, does anyone else think that Malledus from Spirit Tracks is a physical manifestation of that evil and a possible precursor to the more pig-like, demonic Ganon from the earlier games in the series?

I have always felt iffy about developer quotes. In my humble opinion, this is how things seem:

A Canon - Games
B Canon - Book, manga, ect.
C Canon - Interviews and quotes
D Canon - anything else (Official guides, ect.)

I happen to think that there are far too many contridictions between the games for there to be a definitive timeline, although developers have said that there is. This is where A Canon overrides C Canon. But, this is just my view, so whatever.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
Not wanting to get into timeline debates, but considering what the developers said about the post-wind waker regarding Ganon's influence spreading over the great sea, does anyone else think that Malledus from Spirit Tracks is a physical manifestation of that evil and a possible precursor to the more pig-like, demonic Ganon from the earlier games in the series?

Never played Spirit Tracks yet (I have it but I'm saving it) but from what I read isn't it suppose to take place a hundred years or so after Phantom Hourglass?

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Never played Spirit Tracks yet (I have it but I'm saving it) but from what I read isn't it suppose to take place a hundred years or so after Phantom Hourglass?

It is. According to one the heads, don't remember his name, when Link stabbed Ganon in the head in Wind Waker, Ganon's influence spread over the Great Sea in one way or another. Spirit Tracks' back story is that Link and Zelda found the new land of Hyrule and were confronted by an evil force called Malledus that was imprisoned by the spirits underground, chained down by railroad tracks. When Malledus escapes, his demon train looks very much like Ganondorf and Malledus' last form looks like a cross between Ganon from the end of Ocarina of time and Ganon from the first game and the Oracles games. Both Malladus and Ganon have been described as Demon Kings.

Again, I may be clouded by my own concept of the timeline but I don't think that Wind Waker was the end of Ganon and I'm certain that at least half the games take place after it.

I gave up on the timeline theory. I don't think there really is a set timeline. I think they just make the games to be fun and could care less where it fits in any timeline.

I would agree with that, but a few vague statements and my own determination to fit that crap together makes me want there to be one.