Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolasu are right about leon. he thinks he kows whats best for marvel and flat out ignore factual evidence that brings his weak theories to its very knees.leon is a troll. He IGNORES all evidence. He says merely what he thinks and everything else, no matter how official and canon, is flat out wrong.
LT exists in all multiverseS. FACT.
LT spun the destiny of MEGAVERSES. Fact.
It's best just to ignore this guy.
Originally posted by AstnerITS ONLY DC FANBOYS.
It's funny how the Living Tribunal is second in every single aspect to the supreme, while Lucifer is being only second in the aspect of will.
- Living Tribunal is a the top here.
dont worry astner. i just had to show them that the end is canon to marvel universe.
lots of simpletons on here.
Originally posted by quanchi112
ITS ONLY DC FANBOYS.dont worry astner. i just had to show them that the end is canon to marvel universe.
lots of simpletons on here.
Including yourself. Care to tell us how the Living Tribunal obliterates Lucifer? Inquiring minds seek to know.
And if anyone ACTUALLY thinks that the LT would triumph, just read my last post. The LT is a lazy ***.
BTW I'm not a DC fanboy, your ignorance is showing and you're sterotyping those who have a different opinion other than yours.
Originally posted by Lord Shaperlt is second only to TOAA outside of thanos with the heart. lucy doesnt have the raw power of michael but just has an uber will. tribunal has power and willpower. he judges the freaking multiverse. hes way above lucy who needs favors from lesser beings while lt needs nothing from anyone lower than him.
Including yourself. Care to tell us how the Living Tribunal obliterates Lucifer? Inquiring minds seek to know.And if anyone ACTUALLY thinks that the LT would triumph, just read my last post. The LT is a lazy ***.
BTW I'm not a DC fanboy, your ignorance is showing and you're sterotyping those who have a different opinion other than yours.
lt destroys him.
Originally posted by Astner
It's funny how the Living Tribunal is second in every single aspect to the supreme, while Lucifer is being only second in the aspect of will.
- Living Tribunal is a the top here.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Incorrect theres more then one Multiverse In marvel.Marvels totality is a omniverse as illustrated on panel. If they have violated there copyright please show me a statement from another company claiming it to be that way, ore lawsuit ore artical saying that marvel has been sued because they have violated there copyright by using the therm Omniverse in there comics.
on panel PIS. countered and countered again. marvel didnt have the balls to stand up to their claim and actually PROVE that what LT was holding were megaverses, by actually showing characteristics of other comic book publishers.
since your unwilling to claim right, to any implications of marvel having megaverses/omniverses, then YOU tell me. does LT have domain over the presence? MOA? TGEB? Batman? dc megaverse? spectre? hellboy? tranformers? superman? ryu? sagat? naruto? bleach? dragon ball z? buffy the vampire slayer? astro boy??????????????????????????
do you claim LT has power over the mageverses of every comic book publisher????? can he intervene in dc/vertoigo/darkhorse/arhie/capcom/shounen jump etc etc??
i dont THINK so. that is why they havent been sued. because they havent the balls to SHOW the characteristics of non marvel in anything they label as ANOTHER MEGAVERSE. and hence every1 knows its pis.
Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolasleon is a troll. He IGNORES all evidence. He says merely what he thinks and everything else, no matter how official and canon, is flat out wrong.
LT exists in all multiverseS. FACT.
LT spun the destiny of MEGAVERSES. Fact.
It's best just to ignore this guy.
and AGAIN.
what gives you the impression that the oppinion of insignificant landcrawling insects like yourself actually matters????
be it a single bug or an alliance of 3 ignorant bugs, they shall all be crushed by the feat of an intelligent human. the definition is flawed and has been changed by marvel itself a fair few times. if you do not have the ability to understand tha logic behind it, then go chew a shoe or sumthing.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
and AGAIN.what gives you the impression that the oppinion of insignificant landcrawling insects like yourself actually matters????
be it a single bug or an alliance of 3 ignorant bugs, they shall all be crushed by the feat of an intelligent human. the definition is flawed and has been changed by marvel itself a fair few times. if you do not have the ability to understand tha logic behind it, then go chew a shoe or sumthing.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
and AGAIN.what gives you the impression that the oppinion of insignificant landcrawling insects like yourself actually matters????
be it a single bug or an alliance of 3 ignorant bugs, they shall all be crushed by the feat of an intelligent human. the definition is flawed and has been changed by marvel itself a fair few times. if you do not have the ability to understand tha logic behind it, then go chew a shoe or sumthing.
No offense, but you don't know how to debate in a comic book forum. We don't use religion, science, or our own personal logic when confronted with evidense from the comic book itself.
The comic books are all that matter. Where Juntai argues religion, Endless Mike argued science, you are trying to incorporate your own personal logic to argue against a comic book mythology. You can't do that here.
A valid argument can only derive from the comic books themselves.
spear of destiny. the person in question has been flaming me and openly calling me an idiot/toddler/troll/pathetic etc from day one when i did not even KNOW him let alone refer to him. if a person senselessly flames me from day one, he/she isnt going to get a lot of nice comments from me{and he continued to flame if you look back here and a few other threads}.
as for the argument, go back n read here and lucifer vs pre retconned beyonder etc. ust becaiuse marvel claims to own multiverSES now doesnt mean we shud take the claim seriously. by default, that would imply the power over all other comic book publishing realities etc. as said before, by default ANY non amalgam comic feat can be at max megaversal. as a megaverse is accepted to be the totality of a comic book publisher. be it a single universe or thousands of multiverses.
although i will say that all megaverses are NOT equal as stated by a poster before to which you replied. as long as the creator is using the understood definition of terms like multiverse/s universe/s then seeing from the number of realms/universe/s, multiverse/s , we can objectively compare which is greater.
e.g. capcom's street fighter has only ONE universe. and that is their MEGAVERSE. any comic book publisher which has more than one universe in their MEGAVERSE can easliy claim to be more powerful than streetfighterverse{e.g. marvel/dc}. however no publisher can claim to habve more than ONE megaverse or an entire OMNIVERSE{or more than that} in THEIR name and excpect it to be usable as a logical discerning criteria in a vs.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirllucifer and michael are two aspects of a less than supreme presence as u have said.
Lucifer isn't 2nd in the Aspect of will. you miss understand. Lucifer IS will. He's an abstractual being of God's will. Just like Michael is an abstractual being of gods power. that is why they are twins and his first children. God's power shaped by his will. both infinite and undenyable.
lt is second only to TOAA. so in comics unless u have the heart lt is kinda supreme.
lt curbstomps the both of them.
Originally posted by quanchi112
lucifer and michael are two aspects of a less than supreme presence as u have said.lt is second only to TOAA. so in comics unless u have the heart lt is kinda supreme.
lt curbstomps the both of them.