Sephiroth

Originally posted by SHM
I said Sephiroth could regenerate because he did that. Even if we ignore the think about "Sephiroth controlling Jenova", we still have Bizarro Sephiroth. [B]Anyone who played the game knows that Bizarro can regenerate.
This is one of the motives why I call Nikkolas, a FFVII noob. Because it seems he never played the game. [/B]

Bizarro never regenerated a thing because he never lost a body part to begin with. He recovered damage much like Cloud can recover damage using Cure.

^ SHM owned again.

I swear, the more and more he tries to sound smart, it becomes plainer he probably never even played FFVII.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
^ SHM owned again.

I swear, the more and more he tries to sound smart, it becomes plainer he probably never even played FFVII.

No, no, no. He'll come up with something to try to explain how Bizarro Sephiroth regenerated without losing a body part.

First Nikkolas, I want to say that I will stop being an arrogant ass, if you stop being one too. That's annoying me(and is against the rules IIRC). Deal?

Second, in the fight with Bizarro we have things like:

"Head Portion (B) Dead", "Head Portion (B) Revived", all the time. You destroy a part of his huge body and he regenerates/revives it. That's the way it is.

Ah, and something interesting. Everything Jenova's body did in the game, is mentioned in Sephiroth's timeline of the Compilation Ultimania. Because it was Sephiroth. Just because he was using a different body, doesn't mean it wasn't him(the character Sephiroth). So yes, two of his incarnations/forms can regenerate.

FFVII is great.

Originally posted by SHM
"Head Portion (B) Dead", "Head Portion (B) Revived", all the time. You destroy a part of his huge body and he regenerates/revives it. That's the way it is.

You lose an arm and you grow it back; that's regenerating. Head portion (B) died and he revived it is not regenerating that is just called healing. Good job on failing to prove your point.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
fail

Originally posted by ESB -1138
You lose an arm and you grow it back; that's regenerating. Head portion (B) died and he revived it is not regenerating that is just called healing. Good job on failing to prove your point.

Healing from wounds is a form of regeneration, you know.

SHM has a valid point. Healing large wounds rapidly that would otherwise be very grave is regeneration. For example, Jason Voorhees of the Friday the 13th franchise has never re grown a limb, but he can heal wounds extremely rapidly. This is called his regenerative property in the films where it is a main plot point.

Also, according to merriam-webster a definition of regenerate is: to restore to original strength or properties. Sounds to me like what Sephiroth can do. Regenerating his spine when it was severed by CLoud in the Nibel reactor, regenerating his dead parts as Bizzaro(though Bizarro is technically just a coccon for Safer, so Safer, so Safer probably has some rtegenrative properties).

Er...curing would involve regeneration of some sort, especially if you're fighting a team equipped with swords, guns, lances and shurikens.

Exactly.

Sephiroth can regenerate, that's a fact. And good point about his regeneration of his spine in the Nibel reactor fascist, I forgot about that.

ESB -1138... You failed.

Originally posted by SHM
Exactly.

Sephiroth [B]can regenerate, that's a fact. And good point about his regeneration of his spine in the Nibel reactor fascist, I forgot about that.

ESB -1138... You failed. [/B]

Regenerate: To grow or form by regeneration; To form anew; be reproduced, or recreate (Funk & Wagnalls Standard Desk Dictionary Volume 2: N-Z)

Recover: To restore to natural balance, health, composure, etcs. (Funk & Wagnalls Standard Desk Dictionary Volume 2: N-Z)

Congrats SHM again you failed.

Wrong as usual ESB, according to Merriam Webster-

Regenerate: to restore to original strength or properties.

You should probably stick to playing Sonic games, at least until you learn a bit more about other series such as Final Fantasy.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Regenerate: To grow or form by regeneration; To form anew; be reproduced, or recreate (Funk & Wagnalls Standard Desk Dictionary Volume 2: N-Z)

Recover: To restore to natural balance, health, composure, etcs. (Funk & Wagnalls Standard Desk Dictionary Volume 2: N-Z)

Congrats SHM again you failed.

Read what you posted!

Recover: To restore to natural balance, health, composure, etcs.

Thanks for proving my point.

What that Sephiroth recovers not regenerates?

According to your own post it looks like Bizarro did regenerate. You destroyed your own argument on that one.

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source - Share This
re·gen·er·ate /v. rɪˈdʒɛnəˌreɪt; adj. rɪˈdʒɛnərɪt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[v. ri-jen-uh-reyt; adj. ri-jen-er-it] Pronunciation Key
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/regenerate
- Show IPA Pronunciation verb, -at·ed, -at·ing, adjective
–verb (used with object)
1. to effect a complete moral reform in.
2. to re-create, reconstitute, or make over, esp. in a better form or condition.
3. to revive or produce anew; bring into existence again.
4. Biology. to renew or restore (a lost, removed, or injured part).
5. Physics. to restore (a substance) to a favorable state or physical condition.
6. Electronics. to magnify the amplification of, by relaying part of the output circuit power into the input circuit.
7. Theology. to cause to be born again spiritually.
–verb (used without object)
8. to come into existence or be formed again.
9. to reform; become regenerate.
10. to produce a regenerative effect.
11. to undergo regeneration.
–adjective
12. reconstituted or made over in a better form.
13. reformed.
14. Theology. born again spiritually.

I would also like to remind you all that FFVII itself says stuff like Cure, which brings back HP, is just "recovering".

Oh and let's look at what SHM was originally saying what regeneration means
[quote]Another ability of Sephiroth I forgot to mention is regeneration. He can regenerate, like he did many times during the Bizarro fight, and like he did during the first half of the game(when he throw his arm/leg against you(and its transform in Jenova Birth/Life/Death) but the next time you see him, he have a new arm/leg replacing the old one).

It looks to me SHM was going along with us in saying regeneration is losing a part of your body but regrowing a new one. But he was proven wrong and so has to scramble to try and explain "recover" and "regenerate" are the same thing.

Grasping at straws, much?

to revive or produce anew; bring into existence again.

You guys should stop posting definitions that are evidence in your opponents favor.

Grasping at straws, much?

If he is doing that, why are you letting him have your trademark?

Originally posted by ESB -1138
What that Sephiroth recovers not regenerates?

*sigh*

Regeneration is just a word, but it means many things. The meaning that you found in a dictionary, is not the only one.

Like it was stated before:

according to Merriam Webster-

Regenerate: to restore to original strength or properties.

So, call it whatever you want. Sephiroth can heal/regenerate/restore/revive/etc parts of his body. That's my point.

And yes, Jenova/Sephiroth can recreate parts of his body. So, we can say that one of Sephiroth's forms/incarnations can do that.

You guys should stop posting definitions that are evidence in your opponents favor.

Um...dude, that's not what Bizarreo does...his parts never went anywhere so it it can't "bring into existence again"

I am reminded again you can't read.

And out of 14 definitions, you pick ONE to side with your non-existent case.

Fine. I'll do it too!

*dances around* I have more defintions than yooouuuuuu!

1

2. to re-create, reconstitute, or make over, esp. in a better form or condition.

2

3. to revive or produce anew; bring into existence again.

3

4. Biology. to renew or restore (a lost, removed, or injured part).

4

8. to come into existence or be formed again.

5

9. to reform; become regenerate.

6

12. reconstituted or made over in a better form.