Respect Pyron, Eater of Worlds

Originally posted by Burning thought
1. Yeah an orbital range, i.e, the mountain range spans 2 km.....only the range the orbit forms is 400k lightyears, although I think your taking this point too literally, it does not specifically state in what manner, or form. orbital range is like the circumferance its orbiting, which is indeed 400k lightyears.

2. Well the other guy did.

Can you even explain how having that range is even impressive? it doesnt help him in anything, its just a collection of planets...

2. Because he, for being such a small object, is able to extend his power to keep the planet's orbiting him from such distance.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
1. Wait, what are you talking about? Because it sounds like you are agreeing with me.

2. Because he, for being such a small object, is able to extend his power to keep the planet's orbiting him from such distance.

2. how do you know he has to "keep" them orbiting him, for all you know what makes them orbit him in the first place could be passively keeping them moving around him.

And hes not a small object, hes larger than a planet and according to you, larger than a sun. I think this 400k lightyears thing from the sounds of the source is just a way of emphasising that he belives the universe is alike to his collection or something, it would be impossible to have a sun sized ball of spirutal energy running about with a 400k lightyar ring of planets ALL moving at lightspeed around the galaxy looking for more to add to the ring.

Originally posted by Burning thought
2. how do you know he has to "keep" them orbiting him, for all you know what makes them orbit him in the first place could be passively keeping them moving around him.

And hes not a small object, hes larger than a planet and according to you, larger than a sun. I think this 400k lightyears thing from the sounds of the source is just a way of emphasising that he belives the universe is alike to his collection or something, it would be impossible to have a sun sized ball of spirutal energy running about with a 400k lightyar ring of planets ALL moving at lightspeed around the galaxy looking for more to add to the ring.

2. For being the epicenter of a galaxy, yeah, he is a small object, to have so many planets orbit him.

Emphasising his belief that the universe is his? Hahaha no.

"he would use his incredible powers to force the planet in question onto an orbital path around himself. The orbital path surrounding Pyron spanned over 400,000 light years and he planned to include the sun in his collection soon."

It is quite literal in its phrasing.

That's what I don't understand. It's right there. How can you argue against it?

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
1. That makes it more impressive if he does not even have to try.

2. For being the epicenter of a galaxy, yeah, he is a small object, to have so many planets orbit him.

Emphasising his belief that the universe is his? Hahaha no.

"he would use his incredible powers to force the planet in question onto an orbital path around himself. The orbital path surrounding Pyron spanned over 400,000 light years and he planned to include the sun in his collection soon."

It is quite literal in its phrasing.

1. No hes just not doing anything, so them constantly orbiting him is not a feat.

2. Fact is weve seen how Pyron makes objects orbit him, he takes the object, absorbs it and makes it apart of his orbit, thing is, they look much smaller on him after hes made them into energy.

haha yes!

nah its a metaphorical statement, its physically impossible for him to move at lightspeed with all those planetary bodies orbiting after him without damaging them or the universe, and further impossbile for them not to be wiped out by other anomalies. and indeed himself wiped out. Its obvious the thousands of lightyears are in the form of tiny orbiting energy bodies that hes made, like he did with the Earth.

Originally posted by Burning thought
1. No hes just not doing anything, so them constantly orbiting him is not a feat.

2. Fact is weve seen how Pyron makes objects orbit him, he takes the object, absorbs it and makes it apart of his orbit, thing is, they look much smaller on him after hes made them into energy.

haha yes!

nah its a metaphorical statement, its physically impossible for him to move at lightspeed with all those planetary bodies orbiting after him without damaging them or the universe, and further impossbile for them not to be wiped out by other anomalies. and indeed himself wiped out. Its obvious the thousands of lightyears are in the form of tiny orbiting energy bodies that hes made, like he did with the Earth.

2. Point out when. It can be smaller, it still has a range of 400,000 lightyears, and it never says he shrinks them, or even absorbs them, only makes it a part of his orbit.

3. It's a metaphorical statement? Maybe if you're an idiot. Physically impossible? It is physically impossible to push a planet without tearing it apart, never stopped Superman Prime. It is physically impossible to travel faster than light, yet loads of characters do it all the time. So please, don't use the fact that it is "physically impossible" as a debating tactic. And it is obvious to you, which clearly means the opposite of what you are saying is true, you being wrong and all. It states clearly what he does, you are reaching.

Do you know what reaching is? It is when you "reach" for a scenario that is not likely and is unfounded to help your argument, which you do alot. Stop it.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
1. If it is passive, and he does not need to try, then it means without effort he is able to mantain it. Which makes it more impressive.

2. Point out when. It can be smaller, it still has a range of 400,000 lightyears, and it never says he shrinks them, or even absorbs them, only makes it a part of his orbit.

3. It's a metaphorical statement? Maybe if you're an idiot. Physically impossible? It is physically impossible to push a planet without tearing it apart, never stopped Superman Prime. It is physically impossible to travel faster than light, yet loads of characters do it all the time. So please, don't use the fact that it is "physically impossible" as a debating tactic. And it is obvious to you, which clearly means the opposite of what you are saying is true, you being wrong and all. It states clearly what he does, you are reaching.

Do you know what reaching is? It is when you "reach" for a scenario that is not likely and is unfounded to help your argument, which you do alot. Stop it.

No it means hes not trying because hes not doing anything, if its passive its doing it by itself.

2. Its here:

http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/arcade/d/nwpyr.htm

The only way he can make objects like that orbit him is when they are part of his energy.

3. were talking about pyron, not SMP,

You explain how these planets work then? because form actual evidence weve seen how he collects planets and makes them orbit him, ime all ears....

Reach for an argument hat is unlikely? yet your the one standing there thinking hes moving at lightspeed with 400k lightyears of planets flying after him without them being damaged or blowing? we didnt see these planets flying after him when he shrank and landed on Earth, we didnt even have a mention of them. he prob just absorbed their energy back into himself like weve been shown he can, which is all we can assume he did without inventing powers for him.

Originally posted by Burning thought
No it means hes not trying because hes not doing anything, if its passive its doing it by itself.

2. Its here:

http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/arcade/d/nwpyr.htm

The only way he can make objects like that orbit him is when they are part of his energy.

3. were talking about pyron, not SMP,

You explain how these planets work then? because form actual evidence weve seen how he collects planets and makes them orbit him, ime all ears....

Reach for an argument hat is unlikely? yet your the one standing there thinking hes moving at lightspeed with 400k lightyears of planets flying after him without them being damaged or blowing? we didnt see these planets flying after him when he shrank and landed on Earth, we didnt even have a mention of them. he prob just absorbed their energy back into himself like weve been shown he can, which is all we can assume he did without inventing powers for him.

2. Point out where he absorbed it please. 🙂

3. Cop-out. Real science does not always apply to fiction, so I brought up several examples.

By making them orbit him, not by absorbing them. How they work? They are planets that orbit them.

4. So he can absorb an orbital range of 400,000 lightyears? Jesus Christ, he is even stronger than I thought then. 🙂

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
1. So the planets are willingly orbiting him? That's the stupidest shit I have ever heard.

2. Point out where he absorbed it please. 🙂

3. Cop-out. Real science does not always apply to fiction, so I brought up several examples.

By making them orbit him, not by absorbing them. How they work? They are planets that orbit them.

4. So he can absorb an orbital range of 400,000 lightyears? Jesus Christ, he is even stronger than I thought then. 🙂

1. lol....are the planets "willingly" orbiting the sun then? lol, what if their not willing? their all going to suddenly fly into the sun....dont be silly

2. Point out where it said they stayed whole in confliction with already shown abilities. You see where that source leaves a lot out, another source fills it in, and your the one assuming their whole against already shown orbiting powers so your assuming/speculating.

3. weak examples, usually lightspeed has some logical explanation such as the speed force. You cant just say "itz fiction!" especially when ive given examples of how it would work using evidence the game has already shown us.

The little Earth we see in that scan is a planet orbiting Pyron....after absorbing it.

4. Well technically, he can absorb each little planet one at a time as he collects them, so yeh, then their apart of his body.....which we all know he has control over.

I don't mean to jump N but what point do U think U guys can prove 2 sum 1 who thinx Kain can beat Pyron, Demitri and Jedah at the same time? It's pointless and ruining a good thread.

Btw Al, I just got the Graphic File 2 day (from Amazon). Very good book if U'R a fan or want 2 no more, The DS encyclopedia was very N-4-mative 2. I thought the encyclopedia section wood suck cuz it was pretty small (a few pages at the end of the book) but it does it's job very well.

LMAO, He did say that, didn't he? And that's why I ignore'im.

You wont convince be because you have no proof for your claims, you take some quotes from a new source and immedialtey state Pyron is 400k lightyears in size apprently, and then you say ime the one whos hard to convince? bah!

Originally posted by Burning thought
The only people who would say you were right is Pyron lovers who dont actually read the information provided, your source does not state Pyron is 400k lightyears in size....

It doenst at all, for instance lets take what the quote says, it says he has a an orbit that has a range of 400k lightyears around him, now this either means he has a line of planets going around him, which when lined up cover 400k lightyears, or he has an unkown amount of planets going around his orbit, at a distacne of 400k lightyears, ime too lazy to look up the exact defintion of "orbital range" but their the two likely scenarios. Even if the former is true, taking into account we dont know how many planets he has already the bars and dots lining a CD disk when layed in a straight line cover 4km...that means tehy could be ridiculously small. If its the later, then we cannot assume Pyrons size at all based on the info.

I've already said, there are either 2 choices, you can take from the info. He is either that big or he can manipulate said amount of celestial objects, which is a much better feat. I think it's the latter now, cuz more evidence points to that. So it's not about size anymore.

Originally posted by AWLKAL
It kinda doesn't. 😬

An Orbital Range is the distance it takes the farthest planet to make a full revolution in this scenario.

Yea, I know. I just thought it would be kinda weird. It's like Mercury orbitin' the sun from 4 galaxies away. Shows extreme power on Pyron's behalf but just sounds hard imagine. Although the book says he has the power to Rule The Universe and states that he summons the constellations from space for his supers. That's a high level of control, those constellations are huge.

The complete translation of his DS2 endin' states that he would soon be known as the universe and be able to "hold it in the palm of his hand". That further provides evidence that he can control outer space on a scales similar to his power level. When he has the power of the universe, he can control the universe.

No its not 4 galaxies away, if what V2D says its true, the distance the planets orbit is over 400k lightyears, that means they could be the size of a speck of micrscopic dust and travelling around his body only 2mm away. As long as their travelling across the 400k lightyears.

Apart from the fact Pyrons ending is uncanon and Demitri in canon eats him...

The Milky way is only 100,000Lyrs. Times that by 4 and you get the orbital paths the planets take around Pyron. WTF are you talkin' about?

Ime saying distance something travels is not considered in size. Planets could travel 400k lightyears orbit around Pyron while being tiny specks. You cannot assume size or that its even impressive.