Originally posted by rico777heres ur post. u said lt wasnt even sure. i said he was. look at my scan. lt was sure while adam warlock says it hasnt been proven.
he wasn't even sure if he can take on the IG's power.... what a ****ing idiot.LT and Beyonder were pretty stupid, face it. He loses here pretty badly.
but the fact remains that lt had no doubt that he could take awarlock with the ig which u stated otherwise.
remember what u post becuz it could come back to haunt u.
OK for the people saying Michael has God's power you have two choices.
1. You are stupid, dumb, biased, and the Presence's power is weak.
2. You have an epiphany and realize that Michael has the power of creation, The Dunamis Demerigos.
"God had vested in you the Demiurgic power. The word of fire that builds and breaks":
And before anybody says Michael can destroy things...of course he can, having the power of creation doesn't mean you can only create things.
There is a power within me. The Dunamis Demiurgos. God's power.
It's obvious when he's referring to God's power he means the power of creation. If he literally had all of God's power he would be the Presence himself. That and the fact he said God had vested in him the Demiurgic power (the power of creation) in the first scan I showed.
If you still think Michael has God's full power then obviously you can kill someone with God's power because, if you didn't notice, Michael is dying.
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"Michael is a vessel for the Divine power. If he dies, if that vessel cracks.... The worlds will be scoured clean of life. There will be nothing left":
She says there will be nothing left if Michael dies which is also not true. Lucifer survived Michael's creation blast and Elaine absorbed Michael's power when Michael died.
Bottom line is Michael and Lucifer are not all they are sought out to be.
Originally posted by Air Legendhard to argue with this.
OK for the people saying Michael has God's power you have two choices.
1. You are stupid, dumb, biased, and the Presence's power is weak.
2. You have an epiphany and realize that Michael has the power of creation, The Dunamis Demerigos."God had vested in you the Demiurgic power. The word of fire that builds and breaks":
And before anybody says Michael can destroy things...of course he can, having the power of creation doesn't mean you can only create things.There is a power within me. [B]The Dunamis Demiurgos. God's power.
It's obvious when he's referring to God's power he means the power of creation. If he literally had all of God's power he would be the Presence himself. That and the fact he said God had vested in him the Demiurgic power (the power of creation) in the first scan I showed.If you still think Michael has God's full power then obviously you can kill someone with God's power because, if you didn't notice, Michael is dying.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------"Michael is a vessel for the Divine power. If he dies, if that vessel cracks.... The worlds will be scoured clean of life. There will be nothing left":
This woman says there will be nothing left if Michael dies which is also not true. Lucifer survived Michael's creation blast and Elaine absorbed Michael's power when Michael died.
Bottom line is Michael and Lucifer are not all they are sought out to be. [/B]
Originally posted by Air Legendlooks like no dc fanatic is arguing with this. they are conceding defeat. finally.
OK for the people saying Michael has God's power you have two choices.
1. You are stupid, dumb, biased, and the Presence's power is weak.
2. You have an epiphany and realize that Michael has the power of creation, The Dunamis Demerigos."God had vested in you the Demiurgic power. The word of fire that builds and breaks":
And before anybody says Michael can destroy things...of course he can, having the power of creation doesn't mean you can only create things.There is a power within me. [B]The Dunamis Demiurgos. God's power.
It's obvious when he's referring to God's power he means the power of creation. If he literally had all of God's power he would be the Presence himself. That and the fact he said God had vested in him the Demiurgic power (the power of creation) in the first scan I showed.If you still think Michael has God's full power then obviously you can kill someone with God's power because, if you didn't notice, Michael is dying.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------"Michael is a vessel for the Divine power. If he dies, if that vessel cracks.... The worlds will be scoured clean of life. There will be nothing left":
She says there will be nothing left if Michael dies which is also not true. Lucifer survived Michael's creation blast and Elaine absorbed Michael's power when Michael died.
Bottom line is Michael and Lucifer are not all they are sought out to be. [/B]
Originally posted by quanchi112
looks like no dc fanatic is arguing with this. they are conceding defeat. finally.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlwhen he died someone else got his power. creation was fine. learn please/ and this isnt dc as u have told me vertigo is different.
Becuz We aren't idiots. We know why they are brothers. One is God's power manifested. One is Gods Will Manifested. Duh. Anyone who reads DC comics would know this. Any idiot can see that it's not just michael's power that is creation and destroying. I'ts everything. It's God's power becuz Michael actually sustains creation. Not just creates or destroys. It is becuz of him. Thus the power of God. Dummies need to get hip and start reading DC and stop relying on scans.
pawned.
Originally posted by Air Legend
OK for the people saying Michael has God's power you have two choices.
1. You are stupid, dumb, biased, and the Presence's power is weak.
2. You have an epiphany and realize that Michael has the power of creation, The Dunamis Demerigos."God had vested in you the Demiurgic power. The word of fire that builds and breaks":
And before anybody says Michael can destroy things...of course he can, having the power of creation doesn't mean you can only create things.There is a power within me. [B]The Dunamis Demiurgos. God's power.
It's obvious when he's referring to God's power he means the power of creation. If he literally had all of God's power he would be the Presence himself. That and the fact he said God had vested in him the Demiurgic power (the power of creation) in the first scan I showed.If you still think Michael has God's full power then obviously you can kill someone with God's power because, if you didn't notice, Michael is dying.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------"Michael is a vessel for the Divine power. If he dies, if that vessel cracks.... The worlds will be scoured clean of life. There will be nothing left":
She says there will be nothing left if Michael dies which is also not true. Lucifer survived Michael's creation blast and Elaine absorbed Michael's power when Michael died.
Bottom line is Michael and Lucifer are not all they are sought out to be. [/B]
Is there a reason why you are debating Michael having not having Gods Power?? He does its on panel more then once power of creation = gods power, not that hard. Everyone knows he don't have all of gods power.. Lucifer has infinite will so he could take the blast on panel, and Elaine while she is his daughter she is half angel half human and because of that when she tried to take Michael's power while he was dying she almost did it alone but at the very end she began to lose control and she started fading away and her body started to disintegrate and Lucifer stepped in and took her arm and shaped her back into form saving her, on panel. This is also the time when she accidentally made her own creation just trying to take in all Michael's power, on panel also. No you are just not giving them enough credit 😉
Originally posted by kevdude
Is there a reason why you are debating Michael having not having Gods Power?? He does its on panel more then once power of creation = gods power, not that hard. Everyone knows he don't have all of gods power.. Lucifer has infinite will so he could take the blast on panel, and Elaine while she is his daughter she is half angel half human and because of that when she tried to take Michael's power while he was dying she almost did it alone but at the very end she began to lose control and she started fading away and her body started to disintegrate and Lucifer stepped in and took her arm and shaped her back into form saving her, on panel. This is also the time when she accidentally made her own creation just trying to take in all Michael's power, on panel also. No you are just not giving them enough credit 😉
Also to clear up a misconception on who's second in DC to the Presence and GEB, it's Michael. This scan again proves that Michael has the Demurigic power, not all of God's power.
He is the Demiurge. God chose him as his second.
Also kevdude, what exactly do you think Lucifer having infinite will means?
Originally posted by Air Legend
The reason I showed that is because some people think Michael literally has all of God's power when he doesn't lol. Just read nvr's or rico's posts. I said that Elaine absorbed Mike's power because even though she had Lucifer's help it shows that Mike's power is able to be absorbed. As for not giving them enough credit, that's just wrong. I just pointed out some fallacious beliefs. You give Mike to much credit when you say he can beat the LT. Just because Mike is a more interesting character doesn't mean Mike can beat the LT. His power has nothing on the LT. And you definitely give Lucifer to much credit when you say he would beat Classic Beyonder. That's the same as saying Lucifer is greater than a supreme character who had the power of the writers.Also to clear up a misconception on who's second in DC to the Presence and GEB, it's Michael. This scan again proves that Michael has the Demurigic power, not all of God's power.
[B]He is the Demiurge. God chose him as his second.Also kevdude, what exactly do you think Lucifer having infinite will means? [/B]
Even though you have a scan proving Michael is on LT's level you think he's not?? bla. And I think Lucifer would lose if he never had prep, only thing he would major have over the Beyonder is his brains, like I said he might and I use it loosely be able to trick him somehow but I don't see that happening seeing Doom took his powers (correct me if thats wrong i'm pretty sure I've read that somewhere) and he retook them back. So thats the closest he could get to a win in my book. Infinite will is being able to do w/e you want without someone forcing you to do it.
Originally posted by kevdude
Even though you have a scan proving Michael is on LT's level you think he's not?? bla. And I think Lucifer would lose if he never had prep, only thing he would major have over the Beyonder is his brains, like I said he might and I use it loosely be able to trick him somehow but I don't see that happening seeing Doom took his powers (correct me if thats wrong i'm pretty sure I've read that somewhere) and he retook them back. So thats the closest he could get to a win in my book. Infinite will is being able to do w/e you want without someone forcing you to do it.
So you're saying that because God chose him as his second he is equal to the Living Tribunal? Lol then why did you say Michael would win in the Mike vs LT thread when it should be a stalemate using your logic?
Lucifer is very smart, but if they fought, right when the match starts Beyonder would take control of Lucifer before he had time to react. Actually he'd more than likely wipe him out of existence since both would be at their best.
Originally posted by Air Legend
So you're saying that because God chose him as his second he is equal to the Living Tribunal? Lol then why did you say Michael would win in the Mike vs LT thread when it should be a stalemate using your logic?
Lucifer is very smart, but if they fought, right when the match starts Beyonder would take control of Lucifer before he had time to react. Actually he'd more than likely wipe him out of existence since both would be at their best.
That just doesn't make sense. Say DC"s god decides to give his 2nd in command 100 points of power. And marvel gives his 2nd 75 points of power. just becuz both of them are 2nd to thier god doesn't make them equal. Besides, michael has infinite power. LT does not. lucifer has infinite will. LT does not.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlmichael died lt did not. lucifer asks for help and is sometimes powerless while lt is not.
That just doesn't make sense. Say DC"s god decides to give his 2nd in command 100 points of power. And marvel gives his 2nd 75 points of power. just becuz both of them are 2nd to thier god doesn't make them equal. Besides, michael has infinite power. LT does not. lucifer has infinite will. LT does not.
see the difference.
marvel has higher feats while dc is run by superman.
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