Biblical God & The-One-Above-All

Most people interpret Marvel's Supreme Being, the TOAA, to be one of a few things:
-the Marvel company
-the Editor
-the Writer

Now holding true with this idea, Christian God created Man and the Universe. The -real- universe in which TOAA resides.

If TOAA, Stan Lee/the Editor of Marvel/whatever, believes in this God, that essentially means God is more powerful than TOAA.

Now to some this seems ridiculous. Of course God is above a fictional concept. But to some, God is just a fictional concept to be used as such in versus debates. So i'm going with that idea though I personally believe in Him.

I think this is a good idea for a nice topic. I'd like to hear what other people think.

Unless StanLee created god . . .

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Most people interpret Marvel's Supreme Being, the TOAA, to be one of a few things:
-the Marvel company
-the Editor
-the Writer

Now holding true with this idea, Christian God created Man and the Universe. The -real- universe in which TOAA resides.

If TOAA, Stan Lee/the Editor of Marvel/whatever, believes in this God, that essentially means God is more powerful than TOAA.

Now to some this seems ridiculous. Of course God is above a fictional concept. But to some, God is just a fictional concept to be used as such in versus debates. So i'm going with that idea though I personally believe in Him.

I think this is a good idea for a nice topic. I'd like to hear what other people think.

To me...outside of Comics...God is "that which no greater can be thought" Meaning no human intellect or imagination can understand nor comprehend such power.

So yes, when I read Thanos becomes God. I find it to be utterly stupid and poorly cheap writing.

Several characters have become God in Comics.

Including people knowna s...God. lol

Keep in mind there's a difference between "a god" and "God".

In different mythos gods are not as powerful as God... since gods can be killed (Norse:Ragnarok for example) where as "God"? no stories about his/her demise being possible.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Unless StanLee created god . . .

doh

Didn't you guys hear? The Babel Fish killed God, when it proved his existence beyond a doubt, thus negating the need for faith...He then, in His Onipotence, disappeared into non-existence in a puff of logic.

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Also, this is dangerously close to religion-forum fodder, and I'm not entirely sure what the purpose of it is anyway. I'll probably be closing it eventually.

Well, it relates to religion and comic books. How the two coincide. Just like all teh topics about levels of omnipotence as omnipotence is usually associated with religion.

I'm just seeing if my idea is viable; that if TOAA is Marvel and Marvel believes iN God, that God would be above TOAA.

Can't you keep it open for at least a day or so?

Interesting.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Well, it relates to religion and comic books. How the two coincide. Just like all teh topics about levels of omnipotence as omnipotence is usually associated with religion.

I'm just seeing if my idea is viable; that if TOAA is Marvel and Marvel believes iN God, that God would be above TOAA.

Can't you keep it open for at least a day or so?

Well, are you trying to build a bridge between Comic book fiction and religious theology?

You could do it by way of mythos. However, IMO Marvel characters aren't well establish myths.....yet. Whereas DC does have the Golden age to provide such discussions.

Christian God created Man and the Universe.

If I recall...the Jews also believe Man and the Universe were the actions of that which we call God....

So do Muslims

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Christian God created Man and the Universe.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
If I recall...the Jews also believe Man and the Universe were the actions of that which we call God....

Originally posted by Endless Mike
So do Muslims

Wow . . . it's like they all worship the exact same entity.

Oh wait. That's why I hate religious wars between those three.

Well, are you trying to build a bridge between Comic book fiction and religious theology?

In the context that they both can be seen as fictional concepts. If you choose not to believe in Christianity, God is no more legitimate than the Living Tribunal and thus judging his "feats" is as objective as any other fictional character.

That's the angle I'm working with here though, as I said, I believe in Him.

If I recall...the Jews also believe Man and the Universe were the actions of that which we call God....

So do Muslims

Hence why He's usually referred to as the Judao-Christian God, I assume.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
In the context that they both can be seen as fictional concepts. If you choose not to believe in Christianity, God is no more legitimate than the Living Tribunal and thus judging his "feats" is as objective as any other fictional character.

That's the angle I'm working with here though, as I said, I believe in Him.

Awesome. Now I can justify God vs LT vs Haruhi.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
In the context that they both can be seen as fictional concepts. If you choose not to believe in Christianity, God is no more legitimate than the Living Tribunal and thus judging his "feats" is as objective as any other fictional character.

That's the angle I'm working with here though, as I said, I believe in Him.

😂

So you're saying that the discussion is inherently geared toward those who don't believe in God, so that we can treat God's "feats" on the same level as TOAA? Otherwise the Biblical/Quranic/Judaic God wins by default.

Hilarious.

In that case, TOAA ftw! God has to show me more on-panel feats before I believe the hype.

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...probably closing soon anyway though. I can't see this thread running smoothly for any length of time.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Didn't you guys hear? The Babel Fish killed God, when it proved his existence beyond a doubt, thus negating the need for faith...He then, in His Onipotence, disappeared into non-existence in a puff of logic.

Sadly enough, I get the reference without having read the book.

So you're saying that the discussion is inherently geared toward those who don't believe in God, so that we can treat God's "feats" on the same level as TOAA? Otherwise the Biblical/Quranic/Judaic God wins by default.

Hilarious.

In that case, TOAA ftw! God has to show me more on-panel feats before I believe the hype.

Clearly someone has never read Superman vs. Jesus.

For some people, such as the person who inspired me to make this topic, think we should use their feats because they're as 'real" as any comic book character.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Didn't you guys hear? The Babel Fish killed God, when it proved his existence beyond a doubt, thus negating the need for faith...He then, in His Onipotence, disappeared into non-existence in a puff of logic.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
this is dangerously close to religion-forum fodder

I agree, quoting Douglas Adams always comes close to being religious forum fodder 😛

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Oh wait. That's why I hate religious wars between those three.

God from the fiction known as the Bible is terribly flawed.
The Theodicé being the first thing to be mentioned.

Going by the Bible, God is Eternity level.

You miss the point of TOAA. TOAA is the actual creator of the comics. He writes the fiction and is not a part of it - that's why TOAA is truly supreme. Just like how TOAA is supreme onto his creations, God is supreme onto His creations: TOAA.