Wolverine vs. Lizard and Scorpion

Started by Alfheim6 pages

Originally posted by Battlehammer
here the thing though comci companies dobn't think about cannon and non cannon.

were the ones who amde up that crap. Thats why you will never here a comic company say it

Right.....so its non-canon then....

Originally posted by Alfheim
Right.....so its non-canon then....

nope.

if it is non cannon then all cross overs even the ones said to be cannon would not be cannon.

if the author discribes how the character got there in detail. Shows how the character got there. Then he clearly ment for it to be cannon.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
nope.

if it is non cannon then all cross overs even the ones said to be cannon would not be cannon.

if the author discribes how the character got there in detail. Shows how the character got there. Then he clearly ment for it to be cannon.

Well then why isnt it mentioned in Wolverines bio then?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well then why isnt it mentioned in Wolverines bio then?

why would it be mention?

also what the hell does that matter the bio are written by fans............

so if something not mention in the bio it not cannon?

Becuase quite a few things about Logan arnt mention it the bio

Originally posted by Battlehammer
why would it be mention?

also what the hell does that matter the bio are written by fans............

so if something not mention in the bio it not cannon?

Becuase quite a few things about Logan arnt mention it the bio

Well dont they also list comic appearances in bios if its canon why inst it mentioned? Im pretty sure they list comic appearances in marvel universe;..could be wrong.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well dont they also list comic appearances in bios if its canon why inst it mentioned? Im pretty sure they list comic appearances in marvel universe;..could be wrong.

no they don't. also yoru using a sight written by fans.......as your evidence..........

it not a good source. Not to mention most bios don't mention comic apearences......and why would they?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
no they don't. also yoru using a sight written by fans.......as your evidence..........

it not a good source. Not to mention most bios don't mention comic apearences......and why would they?

Well for starters it gets approved by Marvel.....like I said I think ive seen comic appearances in the actual comic Marvel Universe.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well for starters it gets approved by Marvel.....like I said I think ive seen comic appearances in the actual comic Marvel Universe.

I havent and if they did it was far from all of them.

oh it aprove by marvel so I guess capt is a 7 and all areas...........

dude come on it a fan written sight thats worth crap on here.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
I havent and if they did it was far from all of them.

oh it aprove by marvel so I guess capt is a 7 and all areas...........

dude come on it a fan written sight thats worth crap on here.

Bro I think the stats are approved by marvel, but the actual written bio is. 😐

wolverin ftw 7/10, logan fighting prowess is just to much

Originally posted by Alfheim
Look im promised that I was going to give Capt it up a break so if your reading this post and it pisses you off...im sorry...jinzins brought me over to the darkside and Wolverine hate is back in the menu. Excluding Capt it up all Wolverine fans make stuff up to a degree.
what the hell do you think I've "made up" exactly.. 🤨

Originally posted by llagrok
Wolverine took out speed demon yes, but he was no way near as fast as him, nor is Speed Demon particularly strong. They also fought in a cage, which puts SD at a serious disadvantage.

True, but in terms of a sheer speed feat Wolverine was doing the afterimage affect against SD in a straight run and NOT losing ground...

Originally posted by llagrok
This is also KMC, not the Wolverine comics. On KMC his healing factor has a limit and people fight using their powers to their full extent.

So then the limits to Wolverine's healing factor would be limited to the power's
"full extent" thus making his best HF feats useable for these debates...
This may not be a Wolverine comic, but that doesn't mean that we ignore what's happened in Wolverine comics as a standard of evidence..

Originally posted by llagrok
...Wolverine loses his jobber aura here.
You're opinion on who jobs to Wolverine and vica versa is completely subjective so this is not a good reason to ignore evidence either..

Originally posted by llagrok
Also, keep in mind that Spidey had no problems blitzing Wolverine during Golden Child, which is a lot more recent than their old fights.
Oh I have.. but I also kept in mind the multitudes of circumstances that Spiderman had in his favor for that "comic"....

I like how you want to ignore comic based evidence that makes Wolverine look better than your opinion yet use comic based evidence that makes Wolverine look worse than mine..

A bit of hypocrisy there no?

Oh please in their MOST recent encounters Wolverine has stabbed spidey, had him by the throat at claw point, tackled him and had him at claw point again, and backflip kicked him in the groin.. 😕

Is this cannon, not one bullet touches him.
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/2607/19eg6.jpg
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/5594/2021yb8.jpg

Is this cannon
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/8968/wolverine1611jl0.jpg

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/128/wolverine1618qu4.jpg

What about this
http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cyclopssucks03rw3.jpg
http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cyclopssucks04hy7.jpg

What about him cutting up two men before the girl hit the ground
http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0e6ad358or0.jpg

http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinev106817ff1.jpg
http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinev106818yp8.jpg

More bullet dodging.
http://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wpyrate09181rt.jpg

A lot of people hate this scan but it happened. Deal with it.
http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strategydz6.jpg

This dude is fast as hell
http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uxm178pg03lowresur0.jpg
http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=204brwc7.jpg

Is this cannon
http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine34kf0.jpg

bullet dodging
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8915/wolverineorigins03vt6.jpg
http://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverineorigins08in6.jpg

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/4624/19mj4.jpg

Last but no least, Spiderman questioning his speed against wolverine.
http://img111.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidermanvswolverine55kp0.jpg

Originally posted by Battlehammer
no what I am saying is that Logan entering top cow reality was made cannon a long time ago back in the 90's.

They showed how Logan enters there world. he uses a portal that a firm of his has.

I agree because they did juggernaut the same way, then he came back to 616.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
here the thing though comci companies dobn't think about cannon and non cannon.

were the ones who amde up that crap. Thats why you will never here a comic company say it

Good point

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well dont they also list comic appearances in bios if its canon why inst it mentioned? Im pretty sure they list comic appearances in marvel universe;..could be wrong.

Well for starters they do mention crossovers in bios. Just look at the silver surfer bio. It simply bring up when silver surfer crossed over to dc. Well i guess your point is out the window.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
no what I am saying is that Logan entering top cow reality was made cannon a long time ago back in the 90's.

They showed how Logan enters there world. he uses a portal that a firm of his has.

Landau, Luckman and Lake. Interdimensional Financiers.

Their office also appeared in Generation 36, when Jubilee, Chamber and Elwood used the WC to go from New York city, where the Firm was at the time to the darkwoods outside of the dwarven mines of Moria... Yes.. I know how it sounds, but I can post the scans if you want...

I'd actually like to see that I didn't know that Jubes Chamber and Elwood had a crossover.. I loved those guys.

Originally posted by jinzin
I'd actually like to see that I didn't know that Jubes Chamber and Elwood had a crossover.. I loved those guys.
Crossover?

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/7440/generationx3715hy8.jpg

Wait.. what the?

Okay I'm confused.. I think I was thinking of some other heroes from top cow comics.. And I was sure one of em was named elwood.. so I just assumed that the other one was chamber since I couldn't really remember... but now.... I just feel stupid.