Originally posted by MaxWham
to Elite Hunter:
Ok man I really respect your words now… But Revan as Sith was on par with Exar or Ragnos, at least… And he became much more powerful after he was redeemed, yes? So… 1: He wasn’t sith lord in general, so words about Sidious as the greatest sith lord can’t prove anything here.
Ragnos is a virtually an unknown. And Kun is the better saber duelist and arguably has more offensive force powers while Revan might have a broader knowledge. They can if they are coming from the ancient sith who while the quote alone doesn't make it so.supports the theory. Plus Sidious did what no other sith lord ever did. And that was take over the galaxy. And I can't much credit for the post about Sidious. The majority of it had been posted here by others who I highly respect like Gideon,Lightsnake,D.S.and Sylar. Plus Publius is one hell of a debater.
2: Sidious became so powerful only after he was reborn in his cloned body, and even when Sidious wasn’t in his prime and possibly weakened by Windu, Yoda lost…
And for the fun of it THE GIANTS ARE IN THE SUPERBOWL 💃
Exar Kun was not more powerful in the force than Revan, there are lots of evidence (expl. jedi masters that traines you, say that Revan had the greatest potential, than all before him). And Kun was powered by sith artifacts almost all the time. This Canon is very debatable, cos in Star Wars Databank it is still written, that Yoda was the greatest light side user, but this is just stupid, cos it automatically puts him above Luke.
And if you are sooo smart Hunter show me at least one Jedi/Sith who achieved as much as Revan before he was 25 y.o.??!!?? And it can only indicate on the fact that he had far more superior potential as force user than Sidious and somewhere = Luke/Anakin …… Arguable of course, but the whole Star Wars thing is arguable…
Originally posted by MaxWhamAge doesn't matter, what they achieved when the were whatever age, was far more than anything Revan did when he was 25+, that's all that matters in this case, not how old they were when they did it.And if you are sooo smart Hunter show me at least one Jedi/Sith who achieved as much as Revan before he was 25 y.o.??!!?? And it can only indicate on the fact that he had far more superior potential as force user than Sidious and somewhere = Luke/Anakin …… Arguable of course, but the whole Star Wars thing is arguable…
And considering Revan wasn't even born from the Force(Which Anakin was, and Luke was his son, who Lucas said inherited just as much potential as his father), I highly doubt he has more Force Potential than Luke or Anakin, and certainly less than Palpatine, since Revan isn't even near Palpatine's level and Revan hasn't shown anything near to what Palpatine has done.
And if I were you, I wouldn't bother making half the unsupported claims you're making, considering you have nothing to back them up whatsoever besides you non-canonical opinion.
"I highly doubt he has more Force Potential than Luke or Anakin, and certainly less than Palpatine": and you are an idiot if you think that Palpatine had more potential than Luke or Anakin. You are an absolute Palpy fanboy dear!!! And remember, when Revan was a galactic hero( and then had the possibility to rule the galaxy!), Sidious had to kill his master in sleep, which I consider was a real shame…..
Originally posted by MaxWhamWhere did I say Palpatine had more potential than Anakin or Luke? Oh yeah, I DIDN'T! Stop putting words in my mouth, hypocrite.
"I highly doubt he has more Force Potential than Luke or Anakin, and certainly less than Palpatine": and you are an idiot if you think that Palpatine had more potential than Luke or Anakin. You are an absolute Palpy fanboy dear!!! And remember, when Revan was a galactic hero( and then had the possibility to rule the galaxy!), Sidious had to kill his master in sleep, which I consider was a real shame…..
Who gives a crap if Revan was a Galactic hero? So were Anakin and Luke! Palpatine was the Galactic Emperor and Luke is the Grandmaster of the New Jedi Order! That's far more than Revan ever was. And the keyword in that sentence, is 'possibility', whereas Palpatine accomplished his goal. Revan didn't.
Shut the hell up and stop putting words in my mouth, fool. And as I recall, you before were saying that Revan had more potential than either three. Pot calling the kettle black, much?
And you sir, are not only a Revan fanboy, but a huge dumbass aswell.
Originally posted by MaxWhamIn terms of offensive power, he certeinly is, being able to pwn gantoris, choke 20 jedi knights as a spirit is impressive and the fact that he has amulets which can dissintegrate a massasi wall.
Exar Kun was not more powerful in the force than Revan,
Originally posted by MaxWhamThe council never met him nor train him, only vodo did.
there are lots of evidence (expl. jedi masters that traines you, say that Revan had the greatest potential, than all before him)
Originally posted by MaxWhamProve it, i don't see him getting powered in TOTJ.
. And Kun was powered by sith artifacts almost all the time.
Before I begins this does prove you are a Revan fanboy because I just plugged in another name of a powerful force user and you are still arguing for Revan when all I said as Kun has shown more offensive force powers and has shown more to be considered a better saber duelist. I really didn't want to argue this but oh well.
Originally posted by MaxWham
Exar Kun was not more powerful in the force than Revan, there are lots of evidence (expl. jedi masters that traines you, say that Revan had the greatest potential, than all before him). …
And Kun was powered by sith artifacts almost all the time. This Canon is very debatable, cos in Star Wars Databank it is still written, that Yoda was the greatest light side user, but this is just stupid, cos it automatically puts him above Luke.
The only sith artifact on him at all is his amulets and with them he can produce blasts which double in power after every blast.And this is not exactly a point and shoot mater because if the user in not trained with them he too can be hurt and maybe killed by them. Kun had said he could barely control the very first time he used them.
He was a master of ebony (or Black) lightning and every defense Luke had ever learned failed,vs this attack produced by Kun and Kyp respectively.
He destroyed Gantoris from the inside out with black lightning.
Kun separated Luke's spirit from his body.
He choked about 20 of luke's students all at once as a ghost.
Uses sith magic ( looks sort of like energy beam from DBZ but it is not an amulet blasts due to his hand position, properties of it and what was said in the panels) to temporarily incapacitate Aleema before dueling Ulic.
Uses "force stun" to freeze the entire galactic senate which is easily made up of tens of thousands of senators.
Then are quotes to back this up as well.
And if you are sooo smart Hunter show me at least one Jedi/Sith who achieved as much as Revan before he was 25 y.o.??!!?? And it can only indicate on the fact that he had far more superior potential as force user than Sidious and somewhere = Luke/Anakin …… Arguable of course, but the whole Star Wars thing is arguable
First of all show me proof that Revan was only 25. And let's say that is accurate. Um Kun was a padawan when he left the order so he had to be in his early twenties too and then in six months accomplished enough to argue that he and Revan were on par or at the very least rival him. Although he was not in his twenties (which is not his fault) Luke has a a lot from 0BBY-25 BBY. Bane(while being in his twenties when he first started traing which puts him at a disadvantage) has shown incredible things while being at an academy for what a year of training before the destruction of the brotherhood of darkness. And then he had another So yes there people who rival him in accomplishments in a 25 year period. Sorry but no one had a much potential of Anakin "conceived by the force" Skywalker And proof he had more potential the most powerful sith lord ever is where?
Originally posted by fascistcrusaderwww.lucasforums.com . Check the kotor section. And watch out for arguing against the idiot admin, ESPECIALLY roguenine whom will ban you when he gets proven wrong.
stupidrevanfanboys.comI'd like to see this place, what's the real URL?
Ok you claim that Exar wasn’t trained by Jedi Council? But how it comes, that he was a padawan learning on Dantooine ( with Sylvar and Crado )???? Oh I am owned again… And becoming DLOTS doesn’t mean gaining more potential (connection with the force)! Owned again, I guess…. Kun was more powerful? Here some quotes: “Kun traveled to the Jedi fastness of Ossus, killing Odan-Urr, and where with the aid of a Sith holocron, he corrupted the most promising young Jedi Knights and Padawans” “Taking the Sith amulet being displayed at his Massassi sacrifice in hand, Kun embraced its dark nature with absolute conviction” “Around this time, Exar Kun discovered the secrets of the crystals aboard Sadow's Yavin 4 flagship. Where Sadow had caused a binary star system to nova to cover his escape, Kun had the vision to use this extraordinary ability as an offensive weapon”…. Sith artifacts all the way.. Also it is stated in Kotor, that Revan and Malak were much worse Nemesis than even Kun so shud up, cos its canon…. And he was able to do all those miracles as a Spirit, cos using another sith alchemy and machinery he consumed all the power of Massassic race. P.S. And about Sidious and Canon… It is stated that he knew every Sith technique right? Lol, why he couldn’t learn this then ??
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Electromagnetic_torpedo
And why Palpy needed Death Star, if he was soooo almighty??
And Hunter you haven’t said it, but definitely meant. Cos words like “highly doubt” <<<< “ Certainly”.
And really are you 12-15 y.o.??
Also I’d like to add some Revan’s feats. He was able sustain 3 direct hits of force lightning and still defeated ex-Sith Academy master. Also he could redeem absolute dark siders( Yuthura Ban, Bastila and ancient spirit of Ajunta Pall!) , and only Skywalkers were able to do it also. And according to his jedi masters in Kotor his potential was UNLIMITED, and it doesn’t seem that they were great funs of Darth Revan…
Originally posted by MaxWham
Ok you claim that Exar wasn’t trained by Jedi Council? But how it comes, that he was a padawan learning on Dantooine ( with Sylvar and Crado )???? Oh I am owned again…
Hey retard what we are saying that he was not trained by the current dantooinecouncil from kotor. But by Vodo who called him his greatest student ever and he was was about 600 years old. So you owned shit,
And becoming DLOTS doesn’t mean gaining more potential (connection with the force)! Owned again, I guess…. Kun was more powerful? Here some quotes: “Kun traveled to the Jedi fastness of Ossus, killing Odan-Urr, and where with the aid of a Sith holocron, he corrupted the most promising young Jedi Knights and Padawans” “Taking the Sith amulet being displayed at his Massassi sacrifice in hand, Kun embraced its dark nature with absolute conviction” “Around this time, Exar Kun discovered the secrets of the crystals aboard Sadow's Yavin 4 flagship. Where Sadow had caused a binary star system to nova to cover his escape, Kun had the vision to use this extraordinary ability as an offensive weapon”…. Sith artifacts all the way.
lso it is stated in Kotor, that Revan and Malak were much worse Nemesis than even Kun so shud up, cos its canon…. And he was able to do all those miracles as a Spirit, cos using another sith alchemy and machinery he consumed all the power of Massassic race
*Pulls out the quotes to shut the fanboy up*
"You will be one of the great ones , and there is another even greater than you." Freedon Nadd to Ulic Qel Droma in reference to Exar Kun
Aleema Keto said There is Great Darkness on this one!
I could show you techniques that were lost thousands of years ago, secret rites and hidden doorways of power that no weak Jedi Master like Skywalker dares to touch. But you are strong, Kyp Durron. Do you dare to learn?"- "- Shows that Kun knew techniques that have not been used since his time and died with him
He frozed the enitre galactic senate which consisted of at least ten of thousands of senators._most powerful "force stun" ever to have happen.
He is arguably the creator of the doublebladed lightsaber if not then he is the person to ressurect it and unlike other doublebladed lightsabers he "modified his existing weapon to increase its lethality. Customized controls allowed him to extend the length of each blade from half a meter to one-and-a-half meters". SW databank Sith Lightsaber EU section
This would allow to great a unique and alien style that he is the only known official master of which would give him an advantage in duels.
Uses sith magic to immediately and temporarily incapacitate Aleema Keot before she could react right before dueling Ulic
After Kuna and Ulic are declared sith lords by Ragnos the narrator says Ulic Qel Droma and the intruder are rippling with darkside energy ....more powerful than all her sith magic has given her.
Exar Kun choked out Oan Urr who fought in the Great Hype Space war and who tought the Nomi Sunrider the technique to sever one's connection the force as she did to Ulic yet it did not work against Kun.
And after Odan is killed it the comic's narrator says "Odan Urr has gone to the force,leaving the darkest power in the galaxy to walk away with something that will make him even stronger. "
"The two fought, and Vodo-Siosk Baas was no match for Exar Kun's double-bladed lightsaber and deep reserve of dark side power. Vodo-Siosk perished, slain by his former apprentice." (Power of the Jedi Sourcebook, pg. 102 and I thank you Advent for posting this a while back)
He was also a master of Ebony lightning.
And You know where you fail Kun alive>Kun spirit.
"Realizing that Gantoris is no longer his, Kun utterly drains him to provide himself a reserve of energy to last until he can subvert more students." (Jedi Academy Sourcebook, pg. 49 thanks advent btw)
That proves that Kun didn't have unlimited powers as spirit yet he was able to choke out about 20 of luke's apprentices at once,rip Luke's spirit from his body and attack with ebony lightning, and combined his powers with Kyp's to remove the sun crusher from the gas giant Yavin .
So you fail utterly.
Originally posted by MaxWham
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Electromagnetic_torpedo
And why Palpy needed Death Star, if he was soooo almighty??And Hunter you haven’t said it, but definitely meant. Cos words like “highly doubt” <<<< “ Certainly”.
And really are you 12-15 y.o.??
Funny because it also says
However, since the Sorcerers of Tund had their basis in Sith teaching, it is possible that Palpatine knew this ability as well.Not posting the full facts makes you a liar and you lose the little credibility you have.
And i should be asking you how old you are because you the fanboy to the videogame character. And everyone here has utterly tooled your "arguments" and "evidence"
Also I’d like to add some Revan’s feats. He was able sustain 3 direct hits of force lightning and still defeated ex-Sith Academy master. Also he could redeem absolute dark siders( Yuthura Ban, Bastila and ancient spirit of Ajunta Pall!) , and only Skywalkers were able to do it also. And according to his jedi masters in Kotor his potential was UNLIMITED, and it doesn’t seem that they were great funs of Darth Revan…
Come back when you have a REAL argument slick 😉