Originally posted by quanchi112
dr strange would be to much even for batman here. strange is great with prep and his magical abiliteis would just crush batman.a motherbox would only protect him for so long.
It is actually not that clear-cut by the way.
Not saying that Batman would win, but it is not automatic for the good Doctor to win either.
A motherbox has amazing abilities, and I am sure that for those 7 days Batman wouldn't be planning on simply using it to negate injuries.
This match is actually closer than people think, and it could go either way.
Why?
Because Strange is a sorcerer supreme with 7 days of prep, and that is just a bad combo for anyone going against Strange. He is almost guaranteed a win. Strange would be a beast!
But also note that Batman has one of the sharpest minds ever, and with a motherbox for 7 days he would have a universe of knowledge (plus the ability to go anywhere to get what he wants via the motherbox's boomtube), and an entire cosmos of strategy against magic-wielders. And it is never prudent to count Bruce out. He is also almost guaranteed a win.
Put the two against each other and the outcome is really hard to call.
Originally posted by spetznaz
It is actually not that clear-cut by the way.Not saying that Batman would win, but it is not automatic for the good Doctor to win either.
A motherbox has amazing abilities, and I am sure that for those 7 days Batman wouldn't be planning on simply using it to negate injuries.
This match is actually closer than people think, and it could go either way.
Why?
Because Strange is a sorcerer supreme with 7 days of prep, and that is just a bad combo for anyone going against Strange. He is almost guaranteed a win. Strange would be a beast!
But also note that Batman has one of the sharpest minds ever, and with a motherbox for 7 days he would have a universe of knowledge (plus the ability to go anywhere to get what he wants via the motherbox's boomtube), and an entire cosmos of strategy against magic-wielders. And it is never prudent to count Bruce out. He is also almost guaranteed a win.
Put the two against each other and the outcome is really hard to call.
All in all it would be a damn good fight.
Batman is a powerfull magician in massive denial
it is often pointed out that The Dark Knight trained and practiced in At least 147 martial arts.
The MENTAL arts the Bat trained in are laughed at on most forums as irrellevent.
But it is these arts and his Unique Chi that give him the power to duplicate Motherboxes healing ability independently
First encounter Manitou Raven [Earths Shaman] with The JLA
Manitou Raven and The God Tezumak take character ownage to new heights with a complete Knock out of A Strong Prepped JLA. Batman acts like their magic and technomagic based attack was an aphrodisiac The Batman breaks his bonds and smashes his teammates restraints
WW and MM look at The Bat REAL hard and confront him
The Bat looks back equally hard. He dosen't give them an answer.
JLA World War III [grant Morrisson] when a universe eating Old God Maggeddon shows up to Eat the New World [He ate the old ONE] whose thoughts are so evil MM and Supes pass out at a mere glimpse The Bat is there to take Supes and MM by the hand and lead them into the Mind of a Mad God.
The Detective 10/10
Originally posted by don't shivdr strange with prep is far greater than superman with prep.
Batman is a powerfull magician in massive denialit is often pointed out that The Dark Knight trained and practiced in At least 147 martial arts.
The MENTAL arts the Bat trained in are laughed at on most forums as irrellevent.
But it is these arts and his Unique Chi that give him the power to duplicate Motherboxes healing ability independently
First encounter Manitou Raven [Earths Shaman] with The JLA
Manitou Raven and The God Tezumak take character ownage to new heights with a complete Knock out of A Strong Prepped JLA. Batman acts like their magic and technomagic based attack was an aphrodisiac The Batman breaks his bonds and smashes his teammates restraints
WW and MM look at The Bat REAL hard and confront him
The Bat looks back equally hard. He dosen't give them an answer.JLA World War III [grant Morrisson] when a universe eating Old God Maggeddon shows up to Eat the New World [He ate the old ONE] whose thoughts are so evil MM and Supes pass out at a mere glimpse The Bat is there to take Supes and MM by the hand and lead them into the Mind of a Mad God.
The Detective 10/10
bruce wayne loses. he has also lost to superman with prep. dont forget about that.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
dr strange with prep is far greater than superman with prep.bruce wayne loses. he has also lost to superman with prep. dont forget about that.
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As I had posted earlier on the thread, my point is not that Strange would lose or Bruce would win (or that Strange would win or that Bruce would lose).
I know that the good Doctor is a monster without prep, and with Prep you might as well cash in your check and head on home. Anyone saying otherwise either doesn't know comics, or is just acting the fool.
What I am saying is that Batman is not exactly at starter class level when it comes to prep, and when it comes to pulling a trump card when it is least expected he is the BEST at it (note ....I am not talking about prep here, but rather turning an unwinnable situation into a win). The only person who beats him in that regard is Squirrel Girl, and in her case her main power is PIS (Batman on the other side has had a modicum of logic in his feats, for instance how he managed in the Obsidian Age, as well as how he took out the White Martians when the JLA had been effectively pawned).
If you are a bad guy, and you have 'won,' the one character you can COUNT on to mess up your day is Batman. Guaranteed. Just when you think your plan is foolproof (whether you are Vandal Savage, a bevy of White Martians, or Darkseid himself) you can be certain that a certain 'peak human' (an inside DC joke .....private mail me if you want to know more) will mess things up for you. Batman is more than what he seems ......for instance DC almost let their 'joke' outta the bag when they had the Sinestro corps offer Batman a Qwardian ring. Note: Those rings were automatically sent to beings and entities that inspired great fear, and one went to Batman. He refused it, but it was interesting nonetheless. Another favourite of mine (mentioned by another poster) is when he was seemingly able to break out of some high magic when other FAR MORE powerful teammates of his were hapless. Or for that matter the case with the White Martians.
Or the fact that a, ahem DC, 'peak human' was part of the JLA Trimurti!
Note: In terms of pure prep there are a number characters greater (some FAR greater than Batman), but in terms of turning a bad situation into a win probably only Squirrel Girl takes it (oh .....I should also mention Mr. Miracle).
BTW: To Batman fans. I am not saying Batman is not a god of prep ....he is, and cases like the thousand year prep plan in Obsidian age proves this. What I am saying is that there are some charcaters who are better at prep, and have longer spans of time sequence/permutation manipulation.
Anyways, on this thread.
What I am saying is that Batman is not someone to automatically attribute a loss to. Obsidian age showed that ....easily.
And THEN give Batman a MotherBox!
That is not a good scenario for ANY character, because for those days Batman could be anywhere in the UNIVERSE getting ANYTHING and with UNIVERSAL KNOWLEDGE and awareness.
Conclusion:
I am not saying Batman would win. As stated, Strange with prep is no joke.
But it would be a good fight. It may end in less than a second, but it wouldn't be as obvious as some may think.
This is actually one fight I would PAY to see .....more than any Surfer/Superman/Thor/Thanos/Hulk stupid-punchup. This fight (Strange Bruce) would probably last a split second (as one instantly destroys the other), but I would want to see it.
Why?
Because I would like to see whether Bruce, with those resources, could be able to pull a win against one of the most powerful sorcerers out there, who with prep is basically a demi-god (although note that Batman with a motherbox is a .....you guessed it ....virtually one as well).
Might be a short fight, but it would be intellectually stimulating for YEARS.
(In the punch-up series i would like to see a bout between Shiva, Richard Dragon, Batgirl, and Shang Chi .....and then an 'advanced' level fight between Gamora, Karate Kid, and Batman 1 Million.....probably the only fights I'd put before the Strange Batman fight).