Pyron vs. Sargeras

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
Part 2, 4 and 5..

but then thats something depending on the persons opinion, i mean nothing on there makes him seem like hes moving out of the entire solarsystem, galaxy or whatever someone tries to think up in an instanct, infact the transition of movement we can see is that hes moving fairly slowly, he moves a small distance from earth so if he needs some sort of voyagerlike charge up before he can go fast i dont know

another thing when you say works closely..is this comic 100% certified as canon? or is it just as canon as that silly cartoon of Demitri and cute green haired girl getting owned by cats 🙂

another note towards his slowness is that he doesnt seem that much bigger when he returns, either eating planets only makes him grow tiny amounts or his speed is actually slow and he does not eat many planets at all in the millions of years he has to eat them before Earth is fully evolved and only eats a few

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
I can post proof of 4 and 5, but as for 2, that will take a little while, as I can't offer scans, links, and stuff to prove it. These four scans from the UDON DS comics(UDON also works VERY closely with Capcom) show Pyron using his cosmic awareness to look at earth's life, conclude that they will grow stronger, then he creates the Huitzil robots in the palm of his hand(takes matter creation and a highly advanced mind to do), then he leaves the solar system in nearly an instant. It then shows the Huitzil's calling to Pyron as the Earth's creatures have evolved enough to satiate him, and he returns with haste back to Earth.

With a chance of sounding sceptical, that does not prove anything 😐

Especially not his cosmical awareness 😛

Sorry hug

Originally posted by Burning thought
but then thats something depending on the persons opinion, i mean nothing on there makes him seem like hes moving out of the entire solarsystem, galaxy or whatever someone tries to think up in an instanct, infact the transition of movement we can see is that hes moving fairly slowly, he moves a small distance from earth so if he needs some sort of voyagerlike charge up before he can go fast i dont know

another thing when you say works closely..is this comic 100% certified as canon? or is it just as canon as that silly cartoon of Demitri and cute green haired girl getting owned by cats 🙂

Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl
[b]With a chance of sounding sceptical, that does not prove anything 😐

Especially not his cosmical awareness 😛

Sorry hug [/B]

hmm, i wonder why that company wanted to pwn darkstalkers and made it silly, even if ime not typically a fan it makes me sad to think they would do that

also the tiny dot is not really so tiny, sure it shows his movement but for all we know that could only be a few hundred miles, theres only a certain distance humans can see, so in the comic that could be Pyron merely several thousand miles, hundreds of miles..but several thousand is more than enough to show the effect of the Dot in the distance taking into consideration his size at the time, if he was only Earth size..unless he is incredibly bright which is unlikely to be brighter, nor does he look it than a sun or star it would be impossible for him to be seen if he had left the solarsystem

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
How does it not prove cosmic awareness? He looked at the Earth and concluded the powerful life energies the creatures would eventually give off. It shows he has speed over Sarg as well.

He looked at earth and forsaw that it would grow rich in a wide varity of life-forms 😄

We first of all do not know at what point he looked at it, at which year 😛

By judging from the fact that we can see the continent that would be called Africa on the picture, it is not that far back in time 🙂

So he can impossibly have been away for 2.000.000 years 😛

Looking on that picture, I can forsee it will have a large varity of life-forms. It has a proper distance from the sun which makes the temperature excellent. It has water, plant-life and already living beings. Evulotion is impossible to avoid in such circumstances 😄

Do I have cosmical awareness? 😇

As for him leaving earth in the second picture, for all we know there could be hours between each strip 🙄

Originally posted by Burning thought
hmm, i wonder why that company wanted to pwn darkstalkers and made it silly, even if ime not typically a fan it makes me sad to think they would do that

also the tiny dot is not really so tiny, sure it shows his movement but for all we know that could only be a few hundred miles, theres only a certain distance humans can see, so in the comic that could be Pyron merely several thousand miles, hundreds of miles..but several thousand is more than enough to show the effect of the Dot in the distance taking into consideration his size at the time, if he was only Earth size..unless he is incredibly bright which is unlikely to be brighter, nor does he look it than a sun or star it would be impossible for him to be seen if he had left the solarsystem

now thats too much, hes nothing to star sized in that pic and his brightness if he was as bright as one would be incredible...a whole solarsystem would be a great distance, also i agree with Cowgirls points, the diffrent in panels could be great lengths of times which is why a Comic panel is not the best proof not to menstion comics are nefariously suspect of truth anyway

Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl
[b]He looked at earth and forsaw that it would grow rich in a wide varity of life-forms 😄

We first of all do not know at what point he looked at it, at which year 😛

By judging from the fact that we can see the continent that would be called Africa on the picture, it is not that far back in time 🙂

So he can impossibly have been away for 2.000.000 years 😛

Looking on that picture, I can forsee it will have a large varity of life-forms. It has a proper distance from the sun which makes the temperature excellent. It has water, plant-life and already living beings. Evulotion is impossible to avoid in such circumstances 😄

Do I have cosmical awareness? 😇

As for him leaving earth in the second picture, for all we know there could be hours between each strip 🙄 [/B]

For all we know, unless it says "hours later", it is generally accepted that in comics, the time between two panels is not much.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Africa was still Africa 2,000,000 years ago. He was away for more than 2,000,000 years. Even tho you know they would evolve, you would have no idea the kind of power and life energy said creatures would possess, Pyron did.

For all we know, unless it says "hours later", it is generally accepted that in comics, the time between two panels is not much.

But it is not actual proof 😛

There was a comic strip with Andromeda Galaxy as a background and you considered that fact too ✅

And if you did not know, the shape of the continents have changed during the past 2.000.000 years 😄

Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl
[b]But it is not actual proof 😛

There was a comic strip with Andromeda Galaxy as a background and you considered that fact too ✅

And if you did not know, the shape of the continents have changed during the past 2.000.000 years 😄 [/B]

I know they changed, but it was much longer than 2,000,000 years since they changed. Humans were around 2,000,000 years ago.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
The Andromeda thing is from the game, not the comics.

I know they changed, but it was much longer than 2,000,000 years since they changed. Humans were around 2,000,000 years ago.

Land does not stop changing just because humans is around 😛

So you accept the fact that he is not Andromeda Size? 🙂

i dont believe he is, maybe eventually after billions of years, but that image of the Andromeda was obviously just him saying where hes going next, nothing to do with size...but beliveing he is would be like me saying Kain has limitless power because he always evolves and in the future he could have all power..but its unfounded of their power in the future

Me being impressed by the powers of Pyron reduce for every piece of proof providen 🙄

😆 thats probably the same for all characters, since the way people express things are often making it sound more than they actually are

Actually the Dante, warcraft and Diablo talk have made me wiser and being more impressed instead of less 🙂

i suppose i already knew of those so i was not impressed any more than i already was

Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl
[b]Actually the Dante, warcraft and Diablo talk have made me wiser and being more impressed instead of less 🙂 [/B]

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
I lost respect for Sargeras because of this thread. You still have yet to prove how Sarg can defeat Pyron without being invulnerable, a cosmic being of immense power, after being born he was already capable of growing larger than a planet, and easily absorbed his home planet. He has shown cosmic awareness, the earth's plates do not radically change in a mere 2,000,000 years, he was able to read the power they had, he is also faster than Sarg, I dare anyone to try to prove that wrong, and he is physically stronger than Sarg(he can hurt Demitri with punches, who is at Superman durability for crying out loud) Pyron even if he can't grow to the size of the Andromeda(I still say he does, tho I admit this may be my bias) he can still grow much larger than any known planet, and can travel thru space at faster than lightspeed, can manipulate fire on a greater scale than most characters, can change shape, is an excellent H2H combatant(He wasn't champ of his planer for nuthin, and his shapeshifting only adds to his fighting abilities), can teleport, has a shield which has never been penetrated, and maybe more that I can't remember. Fact is, Pyron beats Kain, and he beats Sargeras(tho it takes more effort than it does to fell Kain, I admit easily defeating Sarg was a bit arrogant of me).

but on what grounds does he fell kain, your proof for felling kain is even less than Sargs..and Sarg hasnt got Kains time stop, Dimensionting or energy manipulation on kains level....so no its not fact..its simply your opinion, and the same goes for anyone who has no proof..i can just as well and have every right to say "fact is, kain beats pyron with ease" if you do, infact i have more right since i have pointed you to proof wheras youve shown one comic scan with a biased view on what you think each panel is showing, although the panel doesnt tell you this at all for fact..pyron falls to kain..and Sarg stalamates kain...kain could take on perhaps any game character to an extent thanks to his various powers