Pyron vs. Sargeras

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
I lost respect for Sargeras because of this thread. You still have yet to prove how Sarg can defeat Pyron without being invulnerable, a cosmic being of immense power, after being born he was already capable of growing larger than a planet, and easily absorbed his home planet. He has shown cosmic awareness, the earth's plates do not radically change in a mere 2,000,000 years, he was able to read the power they had, he is also faster than Sarg, I dare anyone to try to prove that wrong, and he is physically stronger than Sarg(he can hurt Demitri with punches, who is at Superman durability for crying out loud) Pyron even if he can't grow to the size of the Andromeda(I still say he does, tho I admit this may be my bias) he can still grow much larger than any known planet, and can travel thru space at faster than lightspeed, can manipulate fire on a greater scale than most characters, can change shape, is an excellent H2H combatant(He wasn't champ of his planer for nuthin, and his shapeshifting only adds to his fighting abilities), can teleport, has a shield which has never been penetrated, and maybe more that I can't remember. Fact is, Pyron beats Kain, and he beats Sargeras(tho it takes more effort than it does to fell Kain, I admit easily defeating Sarg was a bit arrogant of me).

You take things out on me as if I made you drop your respect for Sargeras 😛

I am simply sceptical to your sources of information 😇

This is earth just about 1.000.000 years ago 🙂

Compare your picture with this and you will see that he did not even wait for 1.000.000 years 😛

Originally posted by Burning thought
but on what grounds does he fell kain, your proof for felling kain is even less than Sargs..and Sarg hasnt got Kains time stop, Dimensionting or energy manipulation on kains level....so no its not fact..its simply your opinion, and the same goes for anyone who has no proof..i can just as well and have every right to say "fact is, kain beats pyron with ease" if you do, infact i have more right since i have pointed you to proof wheras youve shown one comic scan with a biased view on what you think each panel is showing, although the panel doesnt tell you this at all for fact..pyron falls to kain..and Sarg stalamates kain...kain could take on perhaps any game character to an extent thanks to his various powers

Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl
[b]You take things out on me as if I made you drop your respect for Sargeras 😛

I am simply sceptical to your sources of information 😇

This is earth just about 1.000.000 years ago 🙂

Compare your picture with this and you will see that he did not even wait for 1.000.000 years 😛

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Originally posted by Violent2Dope
You have offered no proof AT ALL. I looked up that Dark Chronicles Kain site thing, I didn't find anything pertaining to his powers.

it lists all his powers in the games, if you go to Wikipedia it has a lot of lore, as well, it has information such as the boundless energy the energy pillar has, the dimension powers of the dimensioner..if you go to the lost worlds it shows a lot of deleted content that kain should of got but they cut from the game because they wanted to release it when promised which further kains potential...if you look you will find on those sites....

the only other proof you can do is go buy the game and finish it yourself and you can see the cutscenes where he says he gains the powers of Time and the rest of it..then perhaps you will understand why with the energy emblem and his boundless potential of manipulating energy, Pyron has no chance

but i have one scan for pyron that shows little feets at all....

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Like I said, not too different, and that was America, not Africa, that you saw on the scan.

I know, but they are different. Not a lot, but they are 😄

That picture you got scanned is at the most 800.000 years back, if even that far 🙂

You see the lines of America? The borders. They differ enough to have that being after the Nasa picture I posted 😇

Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl
[b]I know, but they are different. Not a lot, but they are 😄

That picture you got scanned is at the most 800.000 years back, if even that far 🙂

You see the lines of America? The borders. They differ enough to have that being after the Nasa picture I posted 😇 [/B]

Originally posted by Burning thought
it lists all his powers in the games, if you go to Wikipedia it has a lot of lore, as well, it has information such as the boundless energy the energy pillar has, the dimension powers of the dimensioner..if you go to the lost worlds it shows a lot of deleted content that kain should of got but they cut from the game because they wanted to release it when promised which further kains potential...if you look you will find on those sites....

the only other proof you can do is go buy the game and finish it yourself and you can see the cutscenes where he says he gains the powers of Time and the rest of it..then perhaps you will understand why with the energy emblem and his boundless potential of manipulating energy, Pyron has no chance

but i have one scan for pyron that shows little feets at all....

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
You are not the only person here who knows about LOK, I have talked to people here who know him, and none of them but you think he wins, except Sandai, but his claims were so ridiculous that I refuse to acknowledge them.

then perhaps they dont know LOk as well as i do, their sources may be weak, or they simply know but dont like him and say he doesnt win for the sake of not caring...just because a lot of people dont have the same information doesnt mean they are more correct than i...they obviously have not seen kains left out powers...LOk is a confusing game..who are the people and perhaps ill privaltey discuss why with them, another note could be they are going by gameplay alone and not canon story

however i have told you where you can find the proof, characters in LOK can control boundless energy...move through dimensions and move others into their own, transmute..etc etc and these were just the human gaurdians of the pillars, kains sword which has the emblems fo the pillars themselves is equel if not far more powerful thean they...

this however would be better for the Pyron VS kain thrad or the demitri and Jedah one..hell bring them over, discuss..then they can prove me wrong perhaps if they can get better proof that i cannot deny

That's the thing, they know you will never back down no matter what, and they don't feel like it.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
First of all, this debate of yours is illogical, due to the fact that I doubt that the creators would do a bunch of research to find out what the world looked like 2,000,000 years ago. Second, you can barely see the structure of America from the scan.

You can see enough to see it is not from over 2.000.000 years ago ermm

My point is not the actual picture, but the fact that your sources of information differs from the way you claim Pyron to be 🙂

And you are wrong. My post is very logical and I think you know it.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
That's the thing, they know you will never back down no matter what, and they don't feel like it.

😆 what a wonderful excuse....immediate excuse for either they dont excist then and your making it up...they have no reasons, they simply state it as if their opinion is fact like you do or they have no sources....

i will back down if they have proof i cannot deny...so far no one has, so how can you possibly judge me..you cannot, not logically..so far you simply decide i must be wrong even though you dont know the character

I just realized something. Pyron is made of pure energy. Energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transfered. Pyron cannot die, only be absorbed in the way Demitri did, Pyron wins.

why does he win..he is still yet to be proven not to have a soul, Sarg can take souls *shrug* and as weve stated Sarg has energy manipulation as far as i know although Darth is the expert..so he could simply transfer Pyron into his own energy..like Kain would transfer pyron into power to the reaver

Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl
[b]You can see enough to see it is not from over 2.000.000 years ago ermm

My point is not the actual picture, but the fact that your sources of information differs from the way you claim Pyron to be 🙂

And you are wrong. My post is very logical and I think you know it. [/B]

Originally posted by Burning thought
why does he win..he is still yet to be proven not to have a soul, Sarg can take souls *shrug* and as weve stated Sarg has energy manipulation as far as i know although Darth is the expert..so he could simply transfer Pyron into his own energy..like Kain would transfer pyron into power to the reaver

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
No, you assume that Pyron took the time to consider the sun, the water, and all that nonsense, while I think he simply chalk it up to cosmic awareness, a common trait among cosmic beings. My explanation is far more logical, you are assuming to much as a way to underpower Pyron. Also, going by your logic, America's side was not even shaped like it is today, OMG it's not Earth at all! dur

You do not have to get mean just because I point out faults in your proof.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Pyron was shown to be only defeated by one thing, energy absortption, and as a cloud of energy, the chances of him having a soul are minimal, as in most areas of fictin, you must have a body to have a soul, and I don't know about you but that's the way I think of a soul, and energy manipulation and absortion are two different things.

you dont need a body to have a soul simply because a soul is nothing to do with your body, your soul is your essence and spirit, your excistence..without a soul beings are usually spectres themselves or are dead animated by another beings force..or robots ofc...but simply being made out of energy doesnt simply mean he has no soul, also as the story goes he has not always been this, so the chances of him suddenly losing his soul as he became cosmic is more or less nothing..

and you dont have to kill an opponent in these matches to win, only to make them unable to fight..if Sarg made Pyron his own power source or simply manipulated Pyron into doing nothing then he can win

Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl
[b]You do not have to get mean just because I point out faults in your proof. [/B]

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
I am being mean because that is literally what everyone is trying to do, point faults in my proof, but posting none of their own. I have another argument for why Pyron is bigger than a galaxy, he wears galaxies(probably dwarf ones, tho they are still large) for rings! I will find the link.

I have not been for any of the character in this thread. I have supplied very little information and very little interfearance and still you find it justified to be mean to me, just because others have not providen proof that you consider solid enough.

Am I supposed to provide proof about a character I know so very little about or not even holding my thumbs for, just so that I can be sure not to be insulted when I come for a comment about things?

If that is how things work while discussing with you, then you do not have to worry anymore. I will not bother you or any of your characters again.

Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl
[b]I have not been for any of the character in this thread. I have supplied very little information and very little interfearance and still you find it justified to be mean to me, just because others have not providen proof that you consider solid enough.

Am I supposed to provide proof about a character I know so very little about or not even holding my thumbs for, just so that I can be sure not to be insulted when I come for a comment about things?

If that is how things work while discussing with you, then you do not have to worry anymore. I will not bother you or any of your characters again. [/B]