Originally posted by pr1983
DOS: DD was doing more damage than supes... supes got very, very lucky...H/P: Supes, again, got lucky... he even had help... in combat, Supes had no chance...
Doomsday Wars: Same again...
Just because Superman eventually won doesnt mean he wasnt consistently outclassed almost every time they've met...
You left out "Wrath of GOG" where Doomsday outlasted Clark against an army of skyfather level Gog's.
Originally posted by quanchi112
its all about wins and losses. u act as if hes lucky all the time. no its just supes knows how to churn out a tough win.
in H/P he had help, big time... thats not churning out a win, thats cheating...
Originally posted by Avlon
You left out "Wrath of GOG" where Doomsday outlasted Clark against an army of skyfather level Gog's.
supes was fighting them first though... 😬
Originally posted by Kento
But Doomsday fought them for 100 years straight. Superman fought them for a bit after fighting somebody else first sure but still 100 years is pretty impressive.
Originally posted by Avlon
I don't quite understand the significance of that?Doomsday fought them straight for a much much longer amount of time...and ended up saving Clarks life as a matter of fact.
when clark was fighting them, he was infected (or had very recently been) by liquid kryptonite... he had aged a fair bit, and had even had what resembled a heart attack shortly before the attack...
i just don't think its fair to compare the two at that point...
Originally posted by pr1983
when clark was fighting them, he was infected (or had very recently been) by liquid kryptonite... he had aged a fair bit, and had even had what resembled a heart attack shortly before the attack...i just don't think its fair to compare the two at that point...
Supes get credit for doing what he did under the influence.
Still, fighting them for over a hundred years and winning is the more impressive feat on Doomsdays behalf.
After all, GOG did manage to kill Clark, but not DD.
Originally posted by Avlon
Supes get credit for doing what he did under the influence.Still, fighting them for over a hundred years and winning is the more impressive feat on Doomsdays behalf.
After all, GOG did manage to kill Clark, but not DD.
granted, but dd did have an army with him... supes was alone, severely weakened, and he still managed to hold out for a short while against an enemy that had taken out most of the league...
i'm not saying DD didnt do well, because he did, just that saying that it was a good feat because superman couldnt do the same is unfair, if thats what you're saying, i mean...
supes and dd made a hell of a team tho...
I'm not taking anything away from Superman because of everything that happened. It's also impressive he was alive for a hundred years after being injected with K-nite, and being away from the sun. Still even if DD had an army he was still fighting for a hundred years straight which is just what is impressive.
Originally posted by Kento
I'm not taking anything away from Superman because of everything that happened. It's also impressive he was alive for a hundred years after being injected with K-nite, and being away from the sun. Still even if DD had an army he was still fighting for a hundred years straight which is just what is impressive.
oh, of course, i wouldnt take that away from him... fighting for that long requires an insane amount of stamina/power/ability...
though did superman not go off to dc's asgard and fight for many years?
Originally posted by pr1983
granted, but dd did have an army with him... supes was alone, severely weakened, and he still managed to hold out for a short while against an enemy that had taken out most of the league...i'm not saying DD didnt do well, because he did, just that saying that it was a good feat because superman couldnt do the same is unfair, if thats what you're saying, i mean...
supes and dd made a hell of a team tho...
The more we get into this..the more I remember what an awesome book that was.
Superman had help in that book, from DD. Gog had also beat most of the JLA.
DD and Supes did make an awesome team though.
Originally posted by pr1983
oh, of course, i wouldnt take that away from him... fighting for that long requires an insane amount of stamina/power/ability...though did superman not go off to dc's asgard and fight for many years?
Superman fought alongside WW and Thor for 1000 years.
Originally posted by pr1983I ain't taking away from Superman and yea I know he fought in Asgard for a thousand years which is extremely impressive. Aren't the Asgardians powerful and then there was Wonder Woman also helping him.. It never really says who is in Doomsday's army. Course somebody else may know I didn't recognize any of the people it showed fighting the Gog's along with him though.
oh, of course, i wouldnt take that away from him... fighting for that long requires an insane amount of stamina/power/ability...though did superman not go off to dc's asgard and fight for many years?
I'm just saying it's impressive though not that Superman couldn't have done it if he was full powered. Though I do wonder if Gog could have hurt Superman if he was full power.
Originally posted by batdude123
Pretty impressive too, considering one Imperiex Probe made Kyle, Wally, J'onn, Plastic Man, Wonder Woman, and Arthur all look like amateurs.
yeah... supes is awesome...
Originally posted by Avlon
The more we get into this..the more I remember what an awesome book that was.
Superman had help in that book, from DD. Gog had also beat most of the JLA.DD and Supes did make an awesome team though.
it was a great book, even if austen's dialogue was so-so in places...
supes was alone for the start of the fight though, although i dont know how long it was before DD turned up... even if it was minutes, supes was in the thick of it...
Superman fought alongside WW and Thor for 1000 years.
thought so... i've never read it, only heard about it... 🙁
Originally posted by Kento
I ain't taking away from Superman and yea I know he fought in Asgard for a thousand years which is extremely impressive. Aren't the Asgardians powerful and then there was Wonder Woman also helping him.. It never really says who is in Doomsday's army. Course somebody else may know I didn't recognize any of the people it showed fighting the Gog's along with him though.
it was a league of powered people all fighting in superman's name... no idea who any of them were, but if they were able to back dd up for at least a portion of those years, then they'll have done alright imo...
I'm just saying it's impressive though not that Superman couldn't have done it if he was full powered. Though I do wonder if Gog could have hurt Superman if he was full power.
he did originally stab him with the kryptonite staff, though i'm not sure whether a non K staff would do the same...