Originally posted by Burning thoughtNo, you parade around the forum like you always win debates, and say shit like,"Pyron has been losing alot lately" in the Pyron vs. Sargeras thread, despite the fact that the debate was not even over, and it was YOU who conceded in the Kain vs. Pyron thread! Also, what is stopping Pyron from teleing to the other side of the planet at the start of the fight with Kain, and then teleing the whole planet to the sun? Nothing. You were LITERALLY the ONLY person(sides FN's cuz, but I won't even go there) who thot Kain won, and don't say it's cause you are the only one who knows about LOK. Jedah and Pyron can be beaten, just not by Kain, what is to stop Jedah from eating Kain's soul right when the fight begins? Nothing. Oh and Gears, comparing Xemnas to Jedah is laughable, the only proof one would need to prove Jedah>>>>>>>>>Xemnas is that he is stronger than Pyron, that is really it.
but then you say "kain lost to pyron" so your being a hypocrite telling its not up to me, then stating kain lost as if its fact, kain "can" beat pyron and jedah is what i mean to say then if it makes a diffrence, he "can" compound pyron into a speck of energy and condense him into diffrent energy sources destroying him, and kain "can" reave souls so if Pyron has one which is likely, and Jedah does have one, then he "can" destroy/defeat them.thats my opinion and yours is your own...i was simply saying Jedah "can" be beaten
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
No, you parade around the forum like you always win debates, and say shit like,"Pyron has been losing alot lately" in the Pyron vs. Sargeras thread, despite the fact that the debate was not even over, and it was YOU who conceded in the Kain vs. Pyron thread! Also, what is stopping Pyron from teleing to the other side of the planet at the start of the fight with Kain, and then teleing the whole planet to the sun? Nothing. You were LITERALLY the ONLY person(sides FN's cuz, but I won't even go there) who thot Kain won, and don't say it's cause you are the only one who knows about LOK. Jedah and Pyron can be beaten, just not by Kain, what is to stop Jedah from eating Kain's soul right when the fight begins? Nothing. Oh and Gears, comparing Xemnas to Jedah is laughable, the only proof one would need to prove Jedah>>>>>>>>>Xemnas is that he is stronger than Pyron, that is really it.
see ranting will do you no good, especialyl saying sillyness like that, what is stopping pyron? Kain when he stops time..thats who, whats stopping kain instantly taking Jedahs soul or time powering...and the ONLY person? i was the ONLY person debating, cept maybe you...nobody else had a real reason or opinion. Also Kain has shown soul resistence, Elder God who eats souls on a daily basis, the reaver, kain can survive a long while against these and beat EG....whats to say Jedah can "instantly" eat anyones soul? he has shown no instances of this, eating the souls of makai shows nothing on the speed he can do it.
Originally posted by Burning thoughtPyron can tele right at the start of the fight. Pyron will already be in the tele process, and would not be able to be attacked. Then when it wears off, Pyron teles the planet to the sun. You were the ONLY person debating, because you were the ONLY person who even thot Kain had a chance at all. Everyone else didn't even take the thread seriously. Also, Jedah can eat all the souls of a planet where the average soul has ten times more power than all the souls combined on earth, he will not resist it. Jedah raised his hand and quickly at all of Makai's souls, one soul will be instant, especially since it is right in front of him.
see ranting will do you no good, especialyl saying sillyness like that, what is stopping pyron? Kain when he stops time..thats who, whats stopping kain instantly taking Jedahs soul or time powering...and the ONLY person? i was the ONLY person debating, cept maybe you...nobody else had a real reason or opinion. Also Kain has shown soul resistence, Elder God who eats souls on a daily basis, the reaver, kain can survive a long while against these and beat EG....whats to say Jedah can "instantly" eat anyones soul? he has shown no instances of this, eating the souls of makai shows nothing on the speed he can do it.
Gear, it may be A>B>C logic but its true.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Pyron can tele right at the start of the fight. Pyron will already be in the tele process, and would not be able to be attacked. Then when it wears off, Pyron teles the planet to the sun. You were the ONLY person debating, because you were the ONLY person who even thot Kain had a chance at all. Everyone else didn't even take the thread seriously. Also, Jedah can eat all the souls of a planet where the average soul has ten times more power than all the souls combined on earth, he will not resist it. Jedah raised his hand and quickly at all of Makai's souls, one soul will be instant, especially since it is right in front of him.Gear, it may be A>B>C logic but its true.
Kain can time power right at the start of the fight....his tele process is much slower than kain turning time, its not instant, to tele while being immune he needs to put his shield up...the shield, has shown zero scenes of it being attacked by soul attacks, why doesnt he just shield himself from Dimitri when he tries to absorb, the shield is also made up of his own energy, so kain will just compound him, it would be even easier considering its an orb shape instead of pyrons humanoid shape.
where does it say it was quickly...all it says is that he did it, from the evidence shown to me so far nothing suggests he did it within a second..minute hour...several hours..who knows, also the power of the soul means nothing to the durability and ressitence of the being being attacked...and no evidence has been showed that this "more than 10 times all souls on earth" is true.
Kain can be instant even if all this was proven undeniable..it will be one of those, who can do what first things.
taken seriously, so...what sillyness you talk now..you think it matters if someone takes it seriously, it matters that if a handful of people dont take seriously, ofcourse it doesnt especially when they have zero reason why...their reason could be one of those "zomg hes a DSker he beats big gozors" does that put me in the wrong? 🙄 Gears, me and DK dont take all this DSker stuff seriosly so that means any debate you say is rubbish? ofcourse it doesnt
Wait, so Jedah is considered stronger than Pyron because he can absorb souls and absorb/create/destroy worlds/dimensions/realms of unknown size, but Xemnas would get curbstomped by Pyron despite the fact Xemnas can steal hearts and create realms of his own, and destroy the realm of light with the same power he used to create his realm. Makes a lot of sense.
Originally posted by Burning thoughtLook at the ending, you see the energy of Makai flow into Jedah's hand. When the baby wakes up he is in darkness, he even comments on how the Devil dimension is gone, and that he must move on to the human world.
that thing doesnt show any actualy jedah feets in itself however, which is why its not the best resource for him, most of his section on jedah is clean and the most significant information on him is what he plans to do in the game. Sucking things dry off a planet, its atmpshere and weather as your saying is fair and well, however dimensions..it would make no sense and so far ive seen no proof that points to dimension taking out. Dimesions are like a plane of excistence.thats fair enoguh of their power, but what they can do means nothing to what their souls are, for example kain can stop time, dimension jump, manipulate beings and put them in dimensions among controlling boundless energy if ofcourse he has his reaver endowned fully with all 9 emblems of the pillars, yet sitll, Raziel with the reaver ,lowly Raziel who has none of these feets can destroy his soul and he has little to no defence to it..(although he has some it seems to his soul being taken) so souls can be far from diffrent to their owners own powers. Being no matter how powerful without immunity to soul stealing can be defeated easily.
possibly, ime no Expert on Kos-mos but i know she has a wide array of powerful attacks is all i know and some odd support powers like that hiberd effect or wahtever its called.
The Majigen (a creation of Jedah's) also began to destroy Makai, even ripping a hole into Makai and sucking in Aensland castle, among other things.
Belail foresees the event that will destroy Makai, which is why he chose Morrigan, the event Belail sees is "Jedah's Damnation" (which is why the game is called Dark Stalkers 3 Jedah's Damnation)
Jedah's whole goal is to fuse all things into one life form...
So you see...Jedah is fully capable of taking out dimensions as proven.
My point is...Jedah has every power Kain has AND MORE. (except time stop) Jedah can do everything Kain can AND MORE (except time stop)
Jedah can steal souls too...and grow more powerful from it.
Btw, KOSMOS has no way of hurting Jedah, Jedah can be vaped and come back.
Geez dudes, can is beatable ya know.
Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
[b]I will follow Darth Extecute's logic and say that Sargedah [Love that name 😆] and Kain will survive 😄Dimitri > Pyron
Sargeras > Jedah
Sargedah & Kain > KOS-MOS & DimitriI like that idea 😄
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I think that's how it'll end.. Sargeras take Jedah's body and fight alongside with Kain.. They bring Dimitri and KOS-MOS to an end and then the two of them are sole survivors.. To Sargeras it doesn't matter if team 1 looses, because he has already won..
Originally posted by Who else?
The Majigen (a creation of Jedah's) also began to destroy Makai, even ripping a hole into Makai and sucking in Aensland castle, among other things.
That doesn't mean anything.. Kil'Jaeden created the Lich King, and the Lich King went out of his control.. His power is increasing at all time and he's about to exceed Kil'Jaeden and break loose from the burning legion..
My point is, that even if he created something ((Even a race)), it doesn't neccessarily mean he is all powerful and things..
Originally posted by shin_gear
Yes it does, and LOL @ the thought of Jedah possibility losing in a match. rofl2
Honestly, I think there's a high possibility that Jedah loose against Sargeras.. Sure, he may destroy universes and snap with his finger to destroy many foes.. But that doesn't mean he can bring everyone to an end just as easily as he brings DS characters to an end..
Originally posted by Who else?
Look at the ending, you see the energy of Makai flow into Jedah's hand. When the baby wakes up he is in darkness, he even comments on how the Devil dimension is gone, and that he must move on to the human world.The Majigen (a creation of Jedah's) also began to destroy Makai, even ripping a hole into Makai and sucking in Aensland castle, among other things.
Belail foresees the event that will destroy Makai, which is why he chose Morrigan, the event Belail sees is "Jedah's Damnation" (which is why the game is called Dark Stalkers 3 Jedah's Damnation)
Jedah's whole goal is to fuse all things into one life form...
So you see...Jedah is fully capable of taking out dimensions as proven.
My point is...Jedah has every power Kain has AND MORE. (except time stop) Jedah can do everything Kain can AND MORE (except time stop)
Jedah can steal souls too...and grow more powerful from it.
Btw, KOSMOS has no way of hurting Jedah, Jedah can be vaped and come back.
Geez dudes, can is beatable ya know.
exacltley but the Devil dimension still consisted of a single world that regardless of their power in comparison to earth, still have less population than said planet, also this still doesnt give any show or reason to belive he did it very quickly, in the images ive seen hes in progress of taking the energy, which means the process cannot be quick
it seems hes fully capable of destroying all beings in the makai, that much is certain but over which time span, the event could of taken a very long time, since it doesnt say (from what ive seen evidence of) of this speed.
Jedah does not have every power, time stop as you say is one of them, and thats a decider of any battle..and when you say "more" what do you mean, i mean yes, he can take every soul in makai, thats one...it wont help him in this battle however, also he from the evidence ive seen, he doesnt have infnite energy manipulation and infnite magic energies coursing through him, he may have a great deal, but not infnite. List what he has proven to do, that kain cannot, kains only thing he cannot do is planet busting and such, actually breaking the planet (although with boundless energy he may be capable of it, just doesnt want to do it)
Kain rips souls but he doesnt come more powerful from them really, his sword gets more energies, Kain always has rapid evolution, happens every so often within a hundred years or less where he gains power, for example at the moment he does not have wings, his next evolution is sure to have wings.
however i still believe Team 2 wins, if jedah gets Possesed then hes in trouble, and Team 2 win, only with Sarge as jedah like stated, i still dont see any way possible for team 1 to have a chance.
Originally posted by Darth Extecute
Honestly, I think there's a high possibility that Jedah loose against Sargeras.. Sure, he may destroy universes and snap with his finger to destroy many foes.. But that doesn't mean he can bring everyone to an end just as easily as he brings DS characters to an end..
no worries darth hes jk 😉