Originally posted by Who else?
This is where things start to get irritating cuz like I've been saying all along, JEDAH HAS THOSE POWERS TOO!So Sarg and Kain can take Jedah's soul and posses him but Jedah can't?
Thats sort of a double standard.Kain's only ability he has over Jedah is time stop, mean while Jedah has at least 10 abilities that Kain doesn't have
Which is what I'm saying
Nearly everything Kain and Sarg can do, Jedah can do also...which has been my point for a very long time.
And also, the time it took for Jedah to absorb the Makai is rather short seeings how Anita is still a little girl and the ending does not say or show that any real time has passed like it does in other endings.
Also please don't start making remarks like "People think DSers are unstoppable" cuz that is what will f**k up a good debate. No one here has ever said that and others could say the same about KOSMOS, Kain, and Sarg.
No one has said it, but that's the words that are spread.. Sargeras wont eat his soul.. He wouldnt tear it out.. I guess you dont pay attention.. Jedah will keep his soul.. He'll keep his health and he'll keep his mind.. He'll just have Sargeras inside to subtly rule it..
Seems like you read only what you want to read.. Points get skipped and questions are subtly avoided.. I've not one bit debated for Kain.. I've just not debated against him.. So, why you bring Kain into all this I do not know.. All I mention is that it'll be the two of them, or Sargedah alive in the end..
And you say it takes him a rather short time to take all the souls? That's not quick enough.. I'm guessing you haven't seen a possession in action when it comes to Warcraft..
And are you saying the following things about Jedah?
-Jedah got immense magical powers
-He founded a magical guideline
-He defeated the most powerful army in the universe on his own.. An army spread in all areas..
-He holds near omniscience..
-He hold vast cosmical powers..
-He can take sizes beyond planet size and shift it at will..
-He can grant other targets immense amounts of power, as long as they serve his will?
-He can use magic and manipulate specific targets with magical effects trough dimensions?
-He can communicate with any individual across dimensions?
-He can only be killed by immortal magic..
-He has lived without a physical body..
-He has possessed one of the most powerful mortal mage in history?
To mention a few shrug
No one has ignored any points, but you man. I've asked you proof of sargs powerful soul and I've gotten nothing in return. I told you that a Makai's soul emits 10 time more energy than a planet. Yet, you've mention nothing about how sargs soul will survive being absorbed other than the claim that he cannot be hurt by mortals. . .even jedah is an immortal now.
Originally posted by Who else?I wouldn't
you wouldnt, time stop alone can beat perhaps any battle kain would get into, and thats forgetting everything else, even if all he had was time stop and soul death he could beat jedah...so all his other feets even if theyre proven put him below kain, how can you not agree?
also i said, ime interested in proof for his powers over possesion as well as those 10 powers you said he has over kain..
ofcourse back on topic, as triple six said teir on the same team, team 2 wil definaltey win, but how i would agree with Darth and DK, possession on Jedah, kain take all the souls...Sarg+kain win.
he reduces time to extremely slow speeds in-game, its stated however he has powers over time, time manipulation in writing, both on the Dark chronicle and Wikipedia has some stuff on it..it proves his time powers, check the kain respect thread for those links. he could simply stop time, or make it so slow that things are moving at negative trans-light speeds
Originally posted by Burning thought
he reduces time to extremely slow speeds in-game, its stated however he has powers over time, time manipulation in writing, both on the Dark chronicle and Wikipedia has some stuff on it..it proves his time powers, check the kain respect thread for those links.
I don't take wikipedia
Which game does he reduce time, I don't really remember? As for Time being stated to have control over time, that's a bit of avague quote. I know kain can time travel with the reaver. But, he needs a machine for that.
Originally posted by Fire Ninja
I don't take wikipediaWhich game does he reduce time, I don't really remember? As for Time being stated to have control over time, that's a bit of avague quote. I know kain can time travel with the reaver. But, he needs a machine for that.
Defiance, and control over time is no mistake of what it means, he cannot travel with the reaver, he needs the time chamber to move through time, which is completly seperate from the reaver, yet he has manipulation over it, which means everything except time travel, which has been proven to be false otherwise he wouldnt need the time chambers
Originally posted by Fire Ninja
No one has ignored any points, but you man. I've asked you proof of sargs powerful soul and I've gotten nothing in return. I told you that a Makai's soul emits 10 time more energy than a planet. Yet, you've mention nothing about how sargs soul will survive being absorbed other than the claim that he cannot be hurt by mortals. . .even jedah is an immortal now.
Already at the 28th word of the post I quoted had he ignore one point that I have spoken of.. So, read up before defending anyone.. Defending a friend is nice, but make sure youre actually defending something that's proper..
Oh.. You've told me that a soul is 10 times more energy than a planet.. I guess you too ignored a point, where I asked WHY they are this powerful.. How come, and why wouldn't Sargeras soul be as powerful as any of those?
And he was hurt by a mortal.. Aegwynn did inflict damage on him.. Because she used immortal MAGIC.. there's a difference between being immortal and using immortal magic..
And I did tell you how.. As of just a page back, it was told that Jedah needed time to absorb.. That's enough.. Sargeras dont need time to possess.. He'll feign his death and will dwell within Jedah in notime..
Originally posted by Darth ExtecuteAnd he was hurt by a mortal.. Aegwynn did inflict damage on him.. Because she used immortal [b]MAGIC
.. there's a difference between being immortal and using immortal magic..[/B]
furthermore, he was "letting" her do it, he wasnt defending himself at all, he wasnt creating shields or using his pwoers to do anything.
Originally posted by Burning thought
furthermore, he was "letting" her do it, he wasnt defending himself at all, he wasnt creating shields or using his pwoers to do anything.
Yeah.. Well, mere mortals wouldn't be able to harm him even if he wanted them to.. He'd have to harm himself in order for normal mages and warriors to believe they damage him 😛