Dimitri, Sargeras, KOS-MOS Vs. Pyron, Kain and Jedah

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
Already at the 28th word of the post I quoted had he ignore one point that I have spoken of.. So, read up before defending anyone.. Defending a friend is nice, but make sure youre actually defending something that's proper..

Wasn't really defending him, but all your claims have been acknowledge.

-I adressed sergs near omniscients, which is hyperbole.
-I addressed his resistance to immortal magic.
-etc

Oh.. You've told me that a soul is 10 times more energy than a planet.. I guess you too ignored a point, where I asked WHY they are this powerful.. How come, and why wouldn't Sargeras soul be as powerful as any of those?

Because you haven't proved it too be, are we just gonna assume that it is just because he's serg?

And he was hurt by a mortal.. Aegwynn did inflict damage on him.. Because she used immortal [b]MAGIC.. there's a difference between being immortal and using immortal magic..

Wait, you said that his vessel can be destroyed, but not his spirit. I agree'd and asked what's stopping jedah from Soul Sucking. . .Still waiting for that answer.

And I did tell you how.. As of just a page back, it was told that Jedah needed time to absorb.. That's enough.. Sargeras dont need time to possess.. He'll feign his death and will dwell within Jedah in notime..

It takes him less then a second to absorb souls and he doesn't even have to be near you. You know how Raziel from LOK sucks souls, just like that.

Originally posted by Fire Ninja
Because you haven't proved it too be, are we just gonna assume that it is just because he's serg?

Are we just gonna assume their souls can be compared to his, just because they are Makai?

Originally posted by Fire Ninja

Because you haven't proved it too be, are we just gonna assume that it is just because he's serg?

the average Makai do not have Sargerus' power

Originally posted by Burning thought
Defiance, and control over time is no mistake of what it means, he cannot travel with the reaver, he needs the time chamber to move through time, which is completly seperate from the reaver, yet he has manipulation over it, which means everything except time travel, which has been proven to be false otherwise he wouldnt need the time chambers

Yes, but where does it say he can manipulate time in every way. Also, when does he demonstrate anything like Time Freeze and Time control?

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
Are we just gonna assume their souls can be compared to his, just because they are Makai?

No, because I proved they emitt more enrgy, still waiting for you to do the same.

Originally posted by Fire Ninja
Wasn't really defending him, but all your claims have been acknowledge.

-I adressed sergs near omniscients, which is hyperbole.
-I addressed his resistance to immortal magic.
-etc

Because you haven't proved it too be, are we just gonna assume that it is just because he's serg?

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Wait, you said that his vessel can be destroyed, but not his spirit. I agree'd and asked what's stopping jedah from Soul Sucking. . .Still waiting for that answer.

It takes him less then a second to absorb souls and he doesn't even have to be near you. You know how Raziel from LOK sucks souls, just like that. [/B]

You want me to explain why I say "Near Omniscience" AGAIN?!?! 😐

What's stopping Jedah from draining his soul? Nothing.. What stops Jedah from succeeding? Sargeras.. Which I've explained repeatingly in the thread..

It takes Sargeras less than a second to know what Jedah will be doing, analyze the situation and then make a move..
Oh.. So, because Raziel can suck souls just like that, does it mean Jedah can? I guess that because Sargeras has vast cosmical powers, he has the same powers as Pyron then? I guess that because Ragnaros is made of cosmical fire, he's as hard to kill as Pyron?

Originally posted by Fire Ninja
No, because I proved they emitt more enrgy, still waiting for you to do the same.

Why do they emitt more energy? I can keep telling you why Sargeras soul is so powerful, but I will have to know why they hold so much energy in order to compare them..

Originally posted by Fire Ninja
Yes, but where does it say he can manipulate time in every way. Also, when does he demonstrate anything like Time Freeze and Time control?

time control he does during the game during it, he says he has the power of the emblem of time when he gets the emblem, he doesnt use his powers in cutscenes however, he only says he has powers, never uses them in the cutscene, and it says "time manipulation" so obviously anything under that heading...what can you think of under that heading?..slowing down time, stopping time...hes shown no limits so you cant give him limits if hes shown none, apart from the factual limit of him not being able to actually travel in time, but thats the only proven limit.

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
No one has said it, but that's the words that are spread.. Sargeras wont eat his soul.. He wouldnt tear it out.. I guess you dont pay attention.. Jedah will keep his soul.. He'll keep his health and he'll keep his mind.. He'll just have Sargeras inside to subtly rule it..

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
And you say it takes him a rather short time to take all the souls? That's not quick enough.. I'm guessing you haven't seen a possession in action when it comes to Warcraft..

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-Jedah got immense magical powers

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-He founded a magical guideline

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-He defeated the most powerful army in the universe on his own.. An army spread in all areas..

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-He holds near omniscience....

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-He hold vast cosmical powers..

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-He can take sizes beyond planet size and shift it at will..

Jedah can shape shift though.

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-He can grant other targets immense amounts of power, as long as they serve his will?.

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-He can use magic and manipulate specific targets with magical effects trough dimensions?

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-He can communicate with any individual across dimensions?

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-He can only be killed by immortal magic..?

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-He has lived without a physical body.

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-He has possessed the most powerful mortal mage in history?

I would make a list asking can Sarg do things that Jedah can but that would take too long, so Ill ask this. Can Sarg take all the things in all of existence and make one life form out of it?

Can he recreate all life in existence, that means every universe, dimension, galaxy etc..?

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
You want me to explain why I say "Near Omniscience" AGAIN?!?! 😐

Nope, re-read what I posted. Omniscient is hyper bole, that's all. Yeah, sergs is very very knowledable. . .I accpeted that. Hell, he's most likely smarter Than Jedah. But, that's all Omniscient is hyperbole.

What's stopping Jedah from draining his soul? Nothing.. What stops Jedah from succeeding? Sargeras.. Which I've explained repeatingly in the thread..

Yes, because his body can only be hurt by Immortal magic. Too bad Jedah will attack the soul.

It takes Sargeras less than a second to know what Jedah will be doing, analyze the situation and then make a move..

What move, that's a real vague description. What move can he make?

Oh.. So, because Raziel can suck souls just like that, does it mean Jedah can?

No, it's been demonstrated that he aborbs souls that way. 😬

Originally posted by Who else?

Can he recreate all life in existence, that means every universe, dimension, galaxy etc..?

no he made that baby and all of makai was destroyed...not all of excistence, thats why he said "the human world is next", in reality, all he did was destroy one world, i give it to yu its an incredibly large world (tiny population in comparison with mass) but is large, but its one realm, like one dimension.

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
Why do they emitt more energy? I can keep telling you why Sargeras soul is so powerful, but I will have to know why they hold so much energy in order to compare them..

Cant you guys answer in one single quote? That's hell to reply to 😐

Originally posted by Fire Ninja
Because they are descendents of God, no joke.

That made me A LOT wiser, aaaandd it answered my question..

Not ermm

Deja vu.

Also, eating souls is common in makai. . .Q-Bee, Ozom, and even victor collect or consume souls. It's not a big deal, and Makai use high level magic.

Originally posted by Fire Ninja

What move, that's a real vague description. What move can he make?

POSSESSION! faint

I should get myself a copy + paste document, where I keep all the stuff I've said..

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
That made me A LOT wiser, aaaandd it answered my question..

Not ermm

Not my fault you can't get the answer you want mate. Makai emit high level energy from their souls. . .what else do you want?

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
POSSESSION! faint

I should get myself a copy + paste document, where I keep all the stuff I've said..

How, describe what he does. Just telling me possession is hella vague, How does it work, etc.

I can not believe I am bringing this up again.. Sargeras has Gorshalach.. Gorshalach > Near omniscience ((I cant think of a better word to use, so please stop being caught on me saying "Near omniscience"..

Sargeras isn't smart.. He's informed.. He knows everything about all good and evil beings.. He doesn't know what's happening to a rock at a deserted planet, but he knows Jedah, and everything that's of importance in the fight