Originally posted by Burning thoughtAll of Makai are descendant's of God, and Pyron>most of them. Omnipotence an error? How so? If he absorbed the whole entirity of existence, he would quite literally have all the power of the universe, and be equal to God. Actually, a little fun fact for you, Makai is actually God's body, and Makai was also Belial's body. Coincidence? I think not.
not really, since he would never be above God, and omnipotence itself is within error, so no being is truly omnipotent or potentially.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
All of Makai are descendant's of God, and Pyron>most of them. Omnipotence an error? How so? If he absorbed the whole entirity of existence, he would quite literally have all the power of the universe, and be equal to God. Actually, a little fun fact for you, Makai is actually God's body, and Makai was also Belial's body. Coincidence? I think not.
Belial is not the 3 o's so hes not God 😉
also wiping out of all excistence does not make you on an equel level with God, who could also, reshape, recreate instantly destroy the unvierse as many times as he/it wishes in any amount of time or before time...
pyron only gets bigger from eating planets, so the greatest feet he could pull off eventually is destroying galaxies and universes with arm swipes=nothing in comparison with all figments and time streams of reality itself, which he cannot do anything with, he has shown no ability of gaining "new" powers through eating planets, only size...he would never be close to omnipotent
the error of omnipotents is when you have boundless power can he kill himself? if hes got infnite power how can he die? then hes not quite all powerful is he...if he cannot kill himself then hes not all powerful..etc etc
Originally posted by Burning thought1. I never said he was, but that is likely why he had so much.
Belial is not the 3 o's so hes not God 😉also wiping out of all excistence does not make you on an equel level with God, who could also, reshape, recreate instantly destroy the unvierse as many times as he/it wishes in any amount of time or before time...
pyron only gets bigger from eating planets, so the greatest feet he could pull off eventually is destroying galaxies and universes with arm swipes=nothing in comparison with all figments and time streams of reality itself, which he cannot do anything with, he has shown no ability of gaining "new" powers through eating planets, only size...he would never be close to omnipotent
the error of omnipotents is when you have boundless power can he kill himself? if hes got infnite power how can he die? then hes not quite all powerful is he...if he cannot kill himself then hes not all powerful..etc etc
2. This is stupid. Pyron does more than just get bigger from eating planets, he gets more power, and his great power increases with every world devoured. Pyron could already destroy a galaxy with an arm if desired. He would wield all the power in the universe, he is already capable of creating matter and conciousness(not sure if the Phobos would actually be considered "life" tho). With all of the universe eaten, I see no reason he could not create whole planets, and also, he would likely have grown much smarter and wiser over the billions of years, he could think of new ways to use his power. You have no proof that Pyron only increases in size dude.
3. He could kill his immortal body, but then instantly resurrect himself.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. I never said he was, but that is likely why he had so much.2. This is stupid. Pyron does more than just get bigger from eating planets, he gets more power, and his great power increases with every world devoured. Pyron could already destroy a galaxy with an arm if desired. He would wield all the power in the universe, he is already capable of creating matter and conciousness(not sure if the Phobos would actually be considered "life" tho). With all of the universe eaten, I see no reason he could not create whole planets, and also, he would likely have grown much smarter and wiser over the billions of years, he could think of new ways to use his power. You have no proof that Pyron only increases in size dude.
3. He could kill his immortal body, but then instantly resurrect himself.
2. no the burdon of proof is on you to prove me wrong, since hes your character your defending, basically put them together..pyron eats planet and hes only shown to get bigger, saying he gets more powerful is such a loose term, powerful in what, obviously getting bigger would make him more powerful in terms of beating planets/universes into submission but in the end he has shown zero powers of creating planets, the only thing hes ever created are the lame robots. Also grown smarter and wiser over billions of years? rubbish....simply being alive a long time doesnt mean anything to his intellect, especialloy if all hes doing is eating planets 🙄 show me anything that suggests he gains "new" powers especially to the degree of making other planets, not to menstion thats still nothing on omnipotence
3. that still gives the loophole in omnipotence that he still doesnt have the power to permanently kill himself, and if he does that means he is not all powerful, omnipotence is a crude word that breaks its own meaning
Originally posted by Burning thought1. He has made matter before, a small army of Phobos, and gave them power as well, they are not weak, they can easily destroy cities in one move. Pyron is still only 200,000,000 years old, and the older you get, the wiser, duh, and smarter as well(Pyron doesn't have the side effect of being forgetful or slow minded with age either). He eats those planets to increase his power further, and is smart enough to shape matter into a functional combat form and give it powers, and used them to alert him on the exact time when Earth's life began to flourish. Can I prove he gets actual new powers? Of course not, we don't see him do much when he arrives on Earth, altho now that I think about it, chances are he already can make planets/galaxies, as the rings on his fingers are planets/galaxies he has already absorbed, which means he had to recreate them. Also, if you can destroy the a universe with a punch, you already pretty much are omnipotent lol.
2. no the burdon of proof is on you to prove me wrong, since hes your character your defending, basically put them together..pyron eats planet and hes only shown to get bigger, saying he gets more powerful is such a loose term, powerful in what, obviously getting bigger would make him more powerful in terms of beating planets/universes into submission but in the end he has shown zero powers of creating planets, the only thing hes ever created are the lame robots. Also grown smarter and wiser over billions of years? rubbish....simply being alive a long time doesnt mean anything to his intellect, especialloy if all hes doing is eating planets 🙄 show me anything that suggests he gains "new" powers especially to the degree of making other planets, not to menstion thats still nothing on omnipotence3. that still gives the loophole in omnipotence that he still doesnt have the power to permanently kill himself, and if he does that means he is not all powerful, omnipotence is a crude word that breaks its own meaning
2. He could if he desired, but guess what? Why the f*ck would he want to permanently kill himself?
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. He has made matter before, a small army of Phobos, and gave them power as well, they are not weak, they can easily destroy cities in one move. Pyron is still only 200,000,000 years old, and the older you get, the wiser, duh, and smarter as well(Pyron doesn't have the side effect of being forgetful or slow minded with age either). He eats those planets to increase his power further, and is smart enough to shape matter into a functional combat form and give it powers, and used them to alert him on the exact time when Earth's life began to flourish. Can I prove he gets actual new powers? Of course not, we don't see him do much when he arrives on Earth, altho now that I think about it, chances are he already can make planets/galaxies, as the rings on his fingers are planets/galaxies he has already absorbed, which means he had to recreate them. Also, if you can destroy the a universe with a punch, you already pretty much are omnipotent lol.2. He could if he desired, but guess what? Why the f*ck would he want to permanently kill himself?
1. if he does not gain "new" powers then his current powers no matter how augmented is not omnipotence, destroying universes and such with a punch is only destructive power, total and infnite "omnipotent" power is diffrent on so many levels so that you could basically do "anything" wether to do with mind, spirit, soul and throughout time and space...pyron cannot and has shown no ability of gaining or potential to gain such powers
2. thats the rub, if he "can" be destroyed even by his own powers he is not truly omnipotent, its not to do with wether he wants to, its wether he could survive said attack..and if he can, he has not got the omnipotent power needed to kill himself, the word is in error
Originally posted by Violent2DopeBelial and Morrigan at true power is = to God / Devil, most likely only in the dimensions they assume though. In Makai they would have the power of God, any where else, they would just be powerful creatures unless.
All of Makai are descendant's of God, and Pyron>most of them. Omnipotence an error? How so? If he absorbed the whole entirity of existence, he would quite literally have all the power of the universe, and be equal to God. Actually, a little fun fact for you, Makai is actually God's body, and Makai was also Belial's body. Coincidence? I think not.
Anita is = to God as well
Jedah = Antichrist
Originally posted by Who else?
Belial and Morrigan at true power is = to God / Devil, most likely only in the dimensions they assume though. In Makai they would have the power of God, any where else, they would just be powerful creatures unless.Anita is = to God as well
Jedah = Antichrist
rubbish, none of them are equel to God..none of them are omnipotent..Belial is foolish and even damages his own power....if he was equel to God, he could do anything he wants to..but he cannot..why did he only wound demitri, if he was equel to god he could blink and demitri would be nothing..same to pyron..no DS characters are equel to God, thats overhyping terribly
Originally posted by Who else?"One day on one of his many journeys, Donovan came across a young girl named Anita. She was an orphan, who was almost completely emotionless. Shunned by her orphanage as a witch, she exhibited a strange and unexplained power. As Donovan came onto the scene, Anita was threatened by a hideous monster. Coming in and easily dispatching the monster, he too is feared by Anita's cowardly guardians. As Donovan turned to leave, Anita began to motion towards Donovan without any words. The people explained that Anita had never exhibited any kind of emotion or word ever since her family was slaughtered by an unknown Darkstalker. Nonchalantly taking his sword Dhylec and slicing off the head of Anita's doll, he proved to the people that Anita's heart wasn't lost as she showed anger at Donovan decapatating her doll by responding with a violent psychic force. Donovan easily subdued the attack and told Anita that anger was the quickest and most easily summoned emotion, and that her anger was proof that she could still heal her own heart. With no where else to go, Donovan welcomed Anita to acompany him to not only find herself, but to help Donovan fight off the evil Darkstalkers as Anita had the unique ability to find them as well. Donovan would help Anita have her revenge and not follow the same troubled path as he.
Anita is = to God as well
Donovan couldn't figure it out, but he felt that Anita was special, and that she had to be protected. Thus, Donovan became Anita's guardian, and the "bane" of evil everywhere. He felt the presence of an oncoming evil on the horizon and knew Anita felt the same. Anita also has kept that headless Doll ever since.
"...wtf? ermm
Originally posted by Burning thoughtCalm your ass down! I don't mean it like that! A real God can snap his fingers and erase existence.
rubbish, none of them are equel to God..none of them are omnipotent..Belial is foolish and even damages his own power....if he was equel to God, he could do anything he wants to..but he cannot..why did he only wound demitri, if he was equel to god he could blink and demitri would be nothing..same to pyron..no DS characters are equel to God, thats overhyping terribly
I mean, in their own environments they are the rulers and are beyond defeat. They can be the udisputed rulers who can only be thwarted by their own selves, that's all I meant.
Take a chill pill, yo.
Originally posted by Who else?
Calm your ass down! I don't mean it like that! A real God can snap his fingers and erase existence.I mean, in their own environments they are the rulers and are beyond defeat. They can be the udisputed rulers who can only be thwarted by their own selves, that's all I meant. Take a chill pill, yo.
ime always chilled, sorry if you thought i was angry, but yes i did think thats what you meant, sorry if i misintepreted what you were trying to say, sure their rulers..
just nobody is at Omnipotent level, least of all Pyron
Originally posted by Burning thoughtI agree, hes not omnipotent but he really is being slept on.
his V2Ds buddy who he seems to hold so highly, as he stated earilier that pyron has potential omnipotence yet all Pyron seems to be is a mindless world eater
A mindless world eater? No way, Pyron is XTREMLY intelligent, he just does not know the ways of earthlings very well. The same way an earthling would go to Hellstorm and not know of their ways.
Originally posted by Who else?
I agree, hes not omnipotent but he really is being slept on.A mindless world eater? No way, Pyron is XTREMLY intelligent, he just does not know the ways of earthlings very well.
😆 extremely intelligent, what makes you think this? the guy goes around eating planets, how intelligent can he be, does he stop to learn about the planet, does he talk to any life? no...all he does is go around eating and getting fat....hes like your average stereotypical american only on a cosmic level
Originally posted by Burning thought1. Like I said, there is no proof either way if he gains new powers, but when you think about he already has Godly powers like creation, and these powers are made stronger by eating planets, so in time he very well could be capable of making worlds or universes if he ate enough. Also BT, I already told you how Pyron is more intelligent than you make him out to be, he is able to create functional powerful robots out of nothing, its not like he just has to think "DUR MAKE BIG ROBOTS" to do it, he has to think about how to make them actually work and function, and gave them a small percent of his power. I am a Pyron fan, but you are the guy who said that Kain one shots Living Tribunal and can beat Galactus, so seriously, I wouldn't talk.
1. if he does not gain "new" powers then his current powers no matter how augmented is not omnipotence, destroying universes and such with a punch is only destructive power, total and infnite "omnipotent" power is diffrent on so many levels so that you could basically do "anything" wether to do with mind, spirit, soul and throughout time and space...pyron cannot and has shown no ability of gaining or potential to gain such powers2. thats the rub, if he "can" be destroyed even by his own powers he is not truly omnipotent, its not to do with wether he wants to, its wether he could survive said attack..and if he can, he has not got the omnipotent power needed to kill himself, the word is in error
2. Well, I think I'll just end the argument by saying that omnipotence is beyond human comprehension, kay?
Originally posted by Burning thought😆 So not true.
😆 extremely intelligent, what makes you think this? the guy goes around eating planets, how intelligent can he be, does he stop to learn about the planet, does he talk to any life? no...all he does is go around eating and getting fat....hes like your average stereotypical american only on a cosmic level
Pyron needs to eat planets and stuff to quench his hunger. He does talk to life he even communicated with the DS from the human dimension, he actually studied the earth and new that in a few million years, that the earth would eventually evolve such as him self.
He learned English almost instantly, took a human shape almost instantly.
Pyron has unlimited potential as far as knowledge is concerned. Pyron can pick up on civilizations, instantly just by watching the creatures on the planet for a few moments.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Like I said, there is no proof either way if he gains new powers, but when you think about he already has Godly powers like creation, and these powers are made stronger by eating planets, so in time he very well could be capable of making worlds or universes if he ate enough. Also BT, I already told you how Pyron is more intelligent than you make him out to be, he is able to create functional powerful robots out of nothing, its not like he just has to think "DUR MAKE BIG ROBOTS" to do it, he has to think about how to make them actually work and function, and gave them a small percent of his power. I am a Pyron fan, but you are the guy who said that Kain one shots Living Tribunal and can beat Galactus, so seriously, I wouldn't talk.2. Well, I think I'll just end the argument by saying that omnipotence is beyond human comprehension, kay?
1. creation as in lame robots, when did i say kain one shots the tribunal, if you can find a post saying that thats less than a few months old ill concede....and Galactus is weakling in some of his showings
2. ... 😉