Dimitri, Sargeras, KOS-MOS Vs. Pyron, Kain and Jedah

Originally posted by Burning thought
1. creation as in lame robots, when did i say kain one shots the tribunal, if you can find a post saying that thats less than a few months old ill concede....and Galactus is weakling in some of his showings

2. ... 😉

2. Yep.

EDIT: Also, Who else? made some very good points as well, but Pyron always had that shape.

Originally posted by Burning thought
1. creation as in lame robots

1. get over the lame robots, their lame since their simply giant machines, thats all they are....they have nothing on for instance Galactus' creations, hell at least kains creations are organic, have thoughts, evolve etc etc, robots is all pyron could come up with, sure their enormous and can destroy human tech, but in essence all they are is machines. Also i know Galactus is...but his main power is energy, thats where all his power comes from, kain would take it given the time.

Originally posted by Burning thought
1. get over the lame robots, their lame since their simply giant machines, thats all they are....they have nothing on for instance Galactus' creations, hell at least kains creations are organic, have thoughts, evolve etc etc, robots is all pyron could come up with, sure their enormous and can destroy human tech, but in essence all they are is machines. Also i know Galactus is...but his main power is energy, thats where all his power comes from, kain would take it given the time.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Those robots wipe out civilizations as Who else? said, and are actually capable of emotion and thought. You bash Pyron's intel simply because he eats planets, and ignore everything else, which makes you a hater. A working indepent robot capable of thought, speech, and emotion is sumthin humans have never made, Pyron instantly created them in the palm of his hand. He has to think of their working structure, and their functions, and make them work, that takes massive intel, and he did it almost instantly. Also, don't ignore Who else's points that also prove his intel.Also, Big G could warp Kain to the other side of the universe if he wished, and that is while weakened. You have Kain made out to be some type of Beyonder level character that he is not. Also, according to a link you showed me, Kain has power over boundless MAGIC, not energy.

yes he has power over boundless magic by default from his own power, the energy emblem which draws power from a higher source directly, the same source the energy guardian draws her powers from and is stated that she has boundless energy manipulation, kain has the emblem among many on his sword and has shown to be able to further the powers beyond some of the guardians. Also boundless magic, thats an incredible power in itself....

so if Big G can do this, why doesnt he do it in so many of his showings, if he had PIS on, he would lose to kain in his stupidity, with PIS off, why are you debating this when you have blatently siad pyron could beat Galactus, are you being a hypocrite? Galactus can do it to kain but not pyron? 🙄

Originally posted by Burning thought
yes he has power over boundless magic by default from his own power, the energy emblem which draws power from a higher source directly, the same source the energy guardian draws her powers from and is stated that she has boundless energy manipulation, kain has the emblem among many on his sword and has shown to be able to further the powers beyond some of the guardians. Also boundless magic, thats an incredible power in itself....

so if Big G can do this, why doesnt he do it in so many of his showings, if he had PIS on, he would lose to kain in his stupidity, with PIS off, why are you debating this when you have blatently siad pyron could beat Galactus, are you being a hypocrite? Galactus can do it to kain but not pyron? 🙄

2. Boundless energy in the LOK world, Big G and Pyron contain more power in their bodies than the whole LOK world dude. And also, just because the guardian can manipulate energy, does not mean Kain can, unless he has shown it or it is stated he has h all of the guardian's powers. And boundless is such a subjective word, it may for all we know be hyperbole, or it just means really really high.

2. First of all, I NEVER said Pyron could beat Big G, I dare you to prove that. Also, teleing Kain, and teleing a being three times bigger than a really big galaxy(Andromeda) are two totally different things, and Pyron could tele back, Kain would be standed in space hating his life even more than he already does.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. No, I looked at the article you gave me, and it said one of the emblems gave him boundless access to magic, in other words, he can never run out of magic power.

2. Boundless energy in the LOK world, Big G and Pyron contain more power in their bodies than the whole LOK world dude. And also, just because the guardian can manipulate energy, does not mean Kain can, unless he has shown it or it is stated he has h all of the guardian's powers. And boundless is such a subjective word, it may for all we know be hyperbole, or it just means really really high.

2. First of all, I NEVER said Pyron could beat Big G, I dare you to prove that. Also, teleing Kain, and teleing a being three times bigger than a really big galaxy(Andromeda) are two totally different things, and Pyron could tele back, Kain would be standed in space hating his life even more than he already does.

1. he gets no magic from emblems, post me the arcticle and i will outline where it says this

2. prove this boundless energy is all so diffrent, it doesnt matter, its boundless...the word means the same in all universes no matter how much energy is at hand, unless you can show me a canon showing of its limit

2. how is it? because hes large? to a being on Galactus' power level you think this will make a diffrence?.....kain can also Teleport, and dimension move..

Originally posted by Burning thought
1. he gets no magic from emblems, post me the arcticle and i will outline where it says this

2. prove this boundless energy is all so diffrent, it doesnt matter, its boundless...the word means the same in all universes no matter how much energy is at hand, unless you can show me a canon showing of its limit

2. how is it? because hes large? to a being on Galactus' power level you think this will make a diffrence?.....kain can also Teleport, and dimension move..

2. Like how you avoided my question on has Kain ever showed energy manipulation. What I meant was that you may be taking it too seriously, tho you know more than me about this so whatever.

3. Big G has shown the power to tele things as large as a galaxy, no more. Kain can tele, but do you really think his tele would get him across the universe. 🙄 Besides, Kain would have no idea where Galactus was, he has no cosmic awareness, Pyron does.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. It was on the wiki article about the pillars I think.

2. Like how you avoided my question on has Kain ever showed energy manipulation. What I meant was that you may be taking it too seriously, tho you know more than me about this so whatever.

3. Big G has shown the power to tele things as large as a galaxy, no more. Kain can tele, but do you really think his tele would get him across the universe. 🙄 Besides, Kain would have no idea where Galactus was, he has no cosmic awareness, Pyron does.

3. he has a vaste amount of powers it seems, also kains teleportation, have you still got proof for Pyron being able to tele across the universe/Galaxy....also you still have not proven true cosmic awarness, few have agreed with you on this...and it seems you feel the opinion on what you belive by other people is extremely important yet you do not drop this?

Originally posted by Burning thought
3. he has a vaste amount of powers it seems, also kains teleportation, have you still got proof for Pyron being able to tele across the universe/Galaxy....also you still have not proven true cosmic awarness, few have agreed with you on this...and it seems you feel the opinion on what you belive by other people is extremely important yet you do not drop this?

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Pyron is three times larger than Andromeda, a REALLY big galaxy, he could tele across it piece by piece, and teleing Pyron would be harder or impossible due to size and power. Actually, only Cowgirl tried to refute it, and she trys to refute everything, no matter how complex he explanation for what really happened is(She's still cool tho). That's two people, you and her. Also, Who else? pointed out other examples of cosmic awareness by Pyron, like instantly learning the English language. He looked at the planet, and foresaw the creatures would evolve into powerful creatures with great life energy.

thats still not awareness of the entire universe/galaxy to know where Galactus is.....

tele piece by piece, only to be tele back against lmao, kain has the dimension and mind emblems, the dimension guardian could pull beings dimensions away into his realm, kain would just warp Galactus to him if he couldnt teleport to Galactus...

Originally posted by Burning thought
thats still not awareness of the entire universe/galaxy to know where Galactus is.....

tele piece by piece, only to be tele back against lmao, kain has the dimension and mind emblems, the dimension guardian could pull beings dimensions away into his realm, kain would just warp Galactus to him if he couldnt teleport to Galactus...

That would kinda suck, tho I doubt it would happen, he has never teled sumthin of Pyron's size, and combined with his power it is pretty much likely impossible. Can Kain pull beings into his realm, or do you just give him that power? Also, it really wouldn't matter, as Kain has no way to kill Big G.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
It is cosmic awareness tho. 🙂

That would kinda suck, tho I doubt it would happen, he has never teled sumthin of Pyron's size, and combined with his power it is pretty much likely impossible. Can Kain pull beings into his realm, or do you just give him that power? Also, it really wouldn't matter, as Kain has no way to kill Big G.

Big G could be drained completly of energy, he would be so weak he may die or lose all his power and protections, so kain would be able to destroy the guy through this method

Big G would just send him into another time period, owned

Originally posted by Burning thought
Big G could be drained completly of energy, he would be so weak he may die or lose all his power and protections, so kain would be able to destroy the guy through this method

Big G would just send him into another time period, owned

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Can Big G even do that? I have never heard of such a thing. Also, by tat logic, Big G could do that to Kain as well, as he needs some kinda chamber to actually travel time it seems.

he probably could come to think of it, kain would lose by being removed from that time, neither could beat Big G, however weak, ime not sure he can do that while weak but ive heard he can definatley send beings through time

Originally posted by Burning thought
he probably could come to think of it, kain would lose by being removed from that time, neither could beat Big G, however weak, ime not sure he can do that while weak but ive heard he can definatley send beings through time

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Meh. Well, that's kinda a pussy move but alright. I guess if he can do that, then yeah, Pyron would lose. Then again, Big G has existed since before the Big Bang, and Pyron could go fight him again.

Big G can do all sorts of things, go on the marvel site, and pyron would be even weaker than kain in this fight, Big Gs energy manipulation is incredible, whats pyron made out of? energy, Big G may even allow pyron to live just to power Big G like a living cosmic battery

Originally posted by Burning thought
Big G can do all sorts of things, go on the marvel site, and pyron would be even weaker than kain in this fight, Big Gs energy manipulation is incredible, whats pyron made out of? energy, Big G may even allow pyron to live just to power Big G like a living cosmic battery

he may be able to absorb better than big G but big G's power is far greater with what he can do, he can do tonnes of stuff, and everything basically at full power to none abstracts

Originally posted by Burning thought
he may be able to absorb better than big G but big G's power is far greater with what he can do, he can do tonnes of stuff, and everything basically at full power to none abstracts