Stamina? I don't think so. High-Stamina feats would be a character fighting for an extended period of time, showing no signs of tiring, or damage.
Hulk has not shown this in any great way. He shows wear and tear during any kind of extended battle.
The question is, Did DD ever get killed by a "Brick"? Has he ever been beaten by a character with regular speed, and no powers other than the physical?
No.
To create his first "death", which was against Superman, it was at the height of pitched battle using similar techniques and power.
A combination of super-speed and super-strength. It took a character with powers similar to his, to kill him.
The equivalent would be for Hulk to fight a very slow version of Abomination.
Originally posted by Horrificus
Stamina? I don't think so. High-Stamina feats would be a character fighting for an extended period of time, showing no signs of tiring, or damage.Hulk has not shown this in any great way. He shows wear and tear during any kind of extended battle.
He shows wear and tear but it doesn't have much of an effect on him fighting. Even people trying to drain him have lost to sheer stamina.
On multiple occasions Hulk has sat though people trying every manner direct attack they can think of with little effect.
He's swum across oceans. He's traveled for weeks upon weeks with a symbiont before getting tired or hungry.
Originally posted by Horrificus
The question is, Did DD ever get killed by a "Brick"? Has he ever been beaten by a character with regular speed, and no powers other than the physical?No.
Actually if you read DOS you could see that what killed DD there was physical force.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Actually if you read DOS you could see that what killed DD there was physical force.
Yes, it was a blunt force attack that killed DD in the last connection of the fight, BUT, Superman did attest that he was using every power he had his disposal to keep up the pressure on DD... if he didn't have them he probably would have been dropped before ever getting to the point where he could land that last blow.
Originally posted by jinzin
He said that it took a character with similar powers to kill DD....Yes, it was a blunt force attack that killed DD in the last connection of the fight, BUT, Superman did attest that he was using every power he had his disposal to keep up the pressure on DD... if he didn't have them he probably would have been dropped before ever getting to the point where he could land that last blow.
Correct.
I am saying that it took the "Silver Bullet" of Superman's strength and speed, to land that last killing blow.
And, it would figure that DD's strike was moving equally fast, since Supes had already had a taste of what DD was packing. I am sure he was using all his speed, and not wanting to get hit.
So, no. Hulk does not have any combination of powers that have shown to be needed to beat DD.
Remember, a block of adamantium is indestructible. But, it isn't fast, can't hit you, and doesn't have any other powers.
Hulk has what Hulk has. That's it. It's when you guys try to have him do things he CANNOT do, that you lose credibility on here.
He cannot beat a guy that is about his equal in strength, rage, regeneration, but with the speed of the Flash.
Originally posted by Horrificus
Correct.I am saying that it took the "Silver Bullet" of Superman's strength and speed, to land that last killing blow.
And, it would figure that DD's strike was moving equally fast, since Supes had already had a taste of what DD was packing. I am sure he was using all his speed, and not wanting to get hit.So, no. Hulk does not have any combination of powers that have shown to be needed to beat DD.
Remember, a block of adamantium is indestructible. But, it isn't fast, can't hit you, and doesn't have any other powers.
Hulk has what Hulk has. That's it. It's when you guys try to have him do things he CANNOT do, that you lose credibility on here.
He cannot beat a guy that is about his equal in strength, rage, regeneration, but with the speed of the Flash.
DOS DD didn't fight anybody with that kind of speed. He blitzed an old JLA that didn't work to great together and kept up with a Superman from a good while back. That doesn't really make him fast enough to be out of Hulk's league IMO. Especially since all he wanted to do was brawl with people.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
DOS DD didn't fight anybody with that kind of speed. He blitzed an old JLA that didn't work to great together and kept up with a Superman from a good while back. That doesn't really make him fast enough to be out of Hulk's league IMO. Especially since all he wanted to do was brawl with people.
Well, they stated that he was as fast as the Flash. And, since the Hulk is NOT as fast as the Flash, your opinion would be incorrect.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
DOS DD didn't fight anybody with that kind of speed. He blitzed an old JLA that didn't work to great together and kept up with a Superman from a good while back. That doesn't really make him fast enough to be out of Hulk's league IMO. Especially since all he wanted to do was brawl with people.
I agree, even though he was stated as having great speed, he got thrashed a lot. Maxima even beat the hell out of him before superman interviened. Hulk has a good chance of winning this fight.
Originally posted by Horrificus
And, honestly, it wouldn't even be fun to read a Hulk comic if he was unbeatable.Who wants to spend money on a book that shows the same thing every month?
Wondering HOW he will win against tough enemies is most of the fun.
Actually there are a hell of a lot of ways to defeat Hulk, unfortunately going toe to toe with him is the least likely way, due to dynamic strength with no known limits, durability and regen that shames wolverine.
His willpower is out of the league of even the most powerful Psychic Entities.
Hulk's TRULY Dynamic Strength is what allows him to be potentially stronger and more physically damaging than anyone he considers his enemy at any given moment.
Continually pissing Hulk off within his range is a deathwish.
Hulk must be outsmarted. Thats his biggest and most obvious weakness.
Originally posted by Joey Stacks
Hulk vs DOS DD?Hulk 9/10
Hulk vs H/P DD
Hulk 3/10
Hulk vs GW DD?
Hulk 1/10
Always have to give Hulk a win because of his dynamic strength. The only DD I don't think Hulk beats even once is Brainiac Day. But that's because Brainiac would notice his dynamic strength and put him down post haste.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
DOS DD didn't fight anybody with that kind of speed. He blitzed an old JLA that didn't work to great together and kept up with a Superman from a good while back. That doesn't really make him fast enough to be out of Hulk's league IMO. Especially since all he wanted to do was brawl with people.
He was said to be moving at speeds that were roughly comparible to Flash by Booster Gold's account.
And he continously got the jump on Clark speed wise, as well as putting Maxima at a loss to his speed...
Even if Flash in the 90's was slower than current Flash, even if he was only a Quicksilver in terms of speed, it would be enough of an advantage over Hulk. 😐
Originally posted by Horrificus
Well, they stated that he was as fast as the Flash. And, since the Hulk is NOT as fast as the Flash, your opinion would be incorrect.
🙄 What did he do that even came close to Flash? Random statements mean very little without something to back them up. I don't deny that DD is faster but he's not that fast.
Originally posted by jinzin
He was said to be moving at speeds that were roughly comparible to Flash by Booster Gold's account.
Yup. And I don't recall much in the way of incredible speed feats from him to back that up.
Originally posted by jinzin
And he continously got the jump on Clark speed wise, as well as putting Maxima at a loss to his speed...
Which are nice. But it hardly seemed to translate to combat speed, random Cadmus agents had no trouble hitting him.
Originally posted by jinzin
Even if Flash in the 90's was slower than current Flash, even if he was only a Quicksilver in terms of speed, it would be enough of an advantage over Hulk. 😐
Based on the way DD was fighting and what Hulk has done to fast moving objects that head straight at him I'd disagree.
