Originally posted by Alpha CentauriWhat an ignorant post. He makes a point, but completely irrelevant to me, who he's addressing.
No matter how easy it is made to BUY music in stores or online (Not even CDs, just digitally), people will weasel out of paying cos they're lazy idiots who "don't have the money to go spending on CDs" but can go out and blast their liver with alcohol or blow money on any number of frivolous things.Not a good argument.
-AC
Originally posted by The PictWell, CDs are better. But yeah, they're free, and you don't have to leave the house, or search many shops, or get the money. So yeah, it is easier.
Not so much easier as....free?I have downloaded songs now and then, but I prefer to build up my CD collection
Originally posted by lord xyz
Well, CDs are better. But yeah, they're free, and you don't have to leave the house, or search many shops, or get the money. So yeah, it is easier.
See, now this is where the ignorance comes in.
You don't have to leave your house to purchase music online either, or search many shops.
So essentially, what you mean is "I do it because it's free.", and you have no other defense besides that?
It's not "easier" to illegally download music. It's "free". If not going out and wandering around stores is your reasoning, then buying music from iTunes is applicable.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriWell, I was comparing download (legal or not) to buying CDs in shops. Didn't mention online shopping at all actually.
See, now this is where the ignorance comes in.You don't have to leave your house to purchase music online either, or search many shops.
So essentially, what you mean is "I do it because it's free.", and you have no other defense besides that?
It's not "easier" to illegally download music. It's "free". If not going out and wandering around stores is your reasoning, then buying music from iTunes is applicable.
-AC
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
that would be my defense. It's free, why not take advantage?
Because it's stealing musicians' work without permission, without giving them anything in return.
Would you say your professional services, whatever it is you do, aren't worth paying for? If you, in whatever your profession is, dedicate time and effort, only for someone to take that and not give back in the form of pay, what would be your reaction?
There are clothes on racks in stores. They're there, why not just take them?
Originally posted by lord xyz
Well, I was comparing download (legal or not) to buying CDs in shops. Didn't mention online shopping at all actually.
So mention it. What's your stance there?
It's not anything to do with difficulty is it? It's about you wanting to own, but not wanting to pay. A.k.a laziness, undeserved sense of entitlement etc. Pick one.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centaurigood point. What if I handad you a coupon for a free dinner at a five star restaraunt of your choice?
Because it's stealing musicians work without permission, without giving them anything in return.Would you say your professional services, whatever it is you do, aren't worth paying for? If you, in whatever your profession is, dedicate time and effort, only for someone to take that and not give back in the form of pay, what would be your reaction.
-AC
I am highly against the illegal downloading of music. I've never been tampted to try it, nor will I ever. I am a big fan of supporting a band by purchasing their album that they worked really hard on and being able to keep their productions legally without questions being asked. Would you really steal a cd from a music store?
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriWith online shopping, I like it. It's easier, but it's kinda fussy with the paying part. I'd pay, but not paying is easier. Yes, it is easier. No credit card information and registry crap. Illegal downloads are easier. If I found an online shop and am a member of it, I probably would pay. Genuine is always better.
So mention it. What's your stance there?It's not anything to do with difficulty is it? It's about you wanting to own, but not wanting to pay. A.k.a laziness, undeserved sense of entitlement etc. Pick one.
-AC
Originally posted by ScytheYes.
I am highly against the illegal downloading of music. I've never been tampted to try it, nor will I ever. I am a big fan of supporting a band by purchasing their album that they worked really hard on and being able to keep their productions legally without questions being asked. Would you really steal a cd from a music store?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
good point. What if I handad you a coupon for a free dinner at a five star restaraunt of your choice?
A coupon that the restaurant have endorsed, distributed and allowed with permission from...themselves?
Take it.
It's not a matter of me being against stuff being free. It's a matter of stealing things, totally different issue.
You are stealing music against the musicians' will, I would not be stealing from the restaurant by using a free coupon THEY distributed themselves.
Originally posted by lord xyz
With online shopping, I like it. It's easier, but it's kinda fussy with the paying part. I'd pay, but not paying is easier. Yes, it is easier. No credit card information and registry crap. Illegal downloads are easier. If I found an online shop and am a member of it, I probably would pay. Genuine is always better.
It's not about "difficulty" is it? As you prove every time you post. It's about you simply not wanting to pay.
In the time you've taken to type these replies, you could register for Amazon, Play, Play Asia etc. Any number of store sites.
It's not a matter of "easy", and you prove that. It's you just trying to find as many ways out of paying for shit as you can. You want to own it, but you don't wanna pay. You're lazy and you're a thief.
Originally posted by lord xyz
Yes.
So again, it's not about "ease" is it? If you'd go into a music store and purposefully steal CDs, it proves even more that you just don't want to pay.
What do you work as?
-AC
I am however, a big fan of buying musician's work directly from their website or club. You see, during the entire creation of any album, a band's percentage is only so much because the cost of the cd is split between the people who produced it, equipment cost, materials, graphical art, band manager, the actual label who put it out and after all is said and done, some band's recieve eleven to twenty cents per cd sold. However buying it directly from the band, ensures that they recieve most of the bill.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
No matter how easy it is made to BUY music in stores or online (Not even CDs, just digitally), people will weasel out of paying cos they're lazy idiots who "don't have the money to go spending on CDs" but can go out and blast their liver with alcohol or blow money on any number of frivolous things.Not a good argument.
-AC
Hahaha,
I bet you have something to do with the music industry.
Why take this so personal?
Who cares, CD's are over prised anyway ..
Originally posted by Alpha Centaurijeez....that sure backfired on me.....shut up. 😛
A coupon that the restaurant have endorsed, distributed and allowed with permission from...themselves?Take it.
It's not a matter of me being against stuff being free. It's a matter of stealing things, totally different issue.
You are stealing music against the musicians' will, I would not be stealing from the restaurant by using a free coupon THEY distributed themselves.
-AC
I get your point about stealing services from the musicians, but still, it's right there at our fingertips, and it's so damn easy to do. I just have a hard time feeling sorry for the musicians.