Ben 10 vs. World War Hulk

Originally posted by Kutulu
Ok name some other bricks that can do this:

So growing gills is now PIS? No - it is NOT PIS. It's the opposite of PIS, PII, or Plot Induced Intelligence. Instead of him just holding his breath, his body adapted and made gills. It shows that his body has the capability to adapt to extreme conditions.

He has overcome the following transmutations:
* Being shrunken down to a tiny size by Goom. Grew right back up to normal size.
* Being turned into stone by Gray Gargoyle.
* numerous incredible healing feats, such as healing his brain stem which was severed, a broken neck, getting his midsection blown open by Dr. Strange, etc..
* Being immune to ALL diseases.
* Surviving Glazier's transmuation powers.
* Unaffected by High Evolutionary's devolving powers:

What about his other non-brick powers?
* Being able to sense the presence of magic:

* senses Vision approaching above ground while he is below ground:

* sees astral forms:

This doesn't even include the absolutely massive, in-character, long history of resisting both illusions and telepathy. His body seems to be able to adapt to almost anything and return to it's normal state. That is not normal regeneration. Normal regeneration will not regenerate mutated cells, Hulk can literally regenerate DNA damage.

To top it off, I didn't even mention his ability to touch energy with his hands and affect it. That's not a pure brick ability either. No matter how strong you are, you cannot lift up something made of electricity. Hulk has done that though.

That is why I place him in the shapechanger class, not the simple brick class. To those that claim that Wolverine not piercing Hulk's skin when he got mad enough facing the X-men as PIS, it's not the first time that has happened:

funny thing is 181 one was recontt in issue hulk 340 stating that Logan indeed did cut hulk but hulk healed so fast it did not seem that way.

also in wolverine 51 it is recontt again and shows Logan indeed cutting hulk during that fight in 181.

oh and in x-men WWH Logan never failed to cut hulk who ever stated that is wrong.

Originally posted by grey fox
Tell me how Seeing phased objects and astral forms relinquishes his status as brick (A term coined for the fights)

Also LOLZ at the energy reference. He does it once and it suddenly becomes a fully fleshed out power.

PIS.

Accept it
YouTube video

Thank God hes done it more than once then,huh.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
funny thing is 181 one was recontt in issue hulk 340 stating that Logan indeed did cut hulk but hulk healed so fast it did not seem that way.

also in wolverine 51 it is recontt again and shows Logan indeed cutting hulk during that fight in 181.

oh and in x-men WWH Logan never failed to cut hulk who ever stated that is wrong.

Re-read Xmen versus WWH again. At the end of comic 1, Wolverine clearly has his claws in Hulk's back. Later on when they are fighting in 2-3, Wolverine comes down with his claws and they bounce off of Hulk's chest. Seeing that Hulk had become so angry that the claws were no longer working on his skin, Wolverine goes for Hulks' eyes, which is exactly what Hulk was planning on. When he does, Hulk grabs him and bashes the hell out of him.

Originally posted by Kutulu
Re-read Xmen versus WWH again. At the end of comic 1, Wolverine clearly has his claws in Hulk's back. Later on when they are fighting in 2-3, Wolverine comes down with his claws and they bounce off of Hulk's chest. Seeing that Hulk had become so angry that the claws were no longer working on his skin, Wolverine goes for Hulks' eyes, which is exactly what Hulk was planning on. When he does, Hulk grabs him and bashes the hell out of him.

.Like I said your wrong.

They did work here a scann proving it.........you can clearly see Logans claws in hulks arm

http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=92196991hl0tr7.jpg

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Originally posted by Battlehammer
oh and in x-men WWH Logan never failed to cut hulk who ever stated that is wrong.

Then Wolverine is wrong.

The first attack he made bounced off and he commented that it couldn't cut him. After that, however, every attack seemed to work fine.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Then Wolverine is wrong.

The first attack he made bounced off and he commented that it couldn't cut him. After that, however, every attack seemed to work fine.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
it dident bounce off anything. Logan comment mroe dirrect at the fact hulk was healing facter. Hulk screamed a logan attack indecationg that it indeed did cut him.

The first shot didn't do anything at all. Logan says that he can't cut him.

actaully Logan says he harder to cut not that he did not cut him or could nto cut him............

not tomention the fact we see Logan cut hulk............many times

Originally posted by Battlehammer
actaully Logan says he harder to cut not that he did not cut him or could nto cut him............

not tomention the fact we see Logan cut hulk............many times

The only reason he cut him after that page was that he had the leverage and Hulk was punching him while holding him, so in effect Wolverine was using the Hulk's own strength to cut him. The force of him diving down and slashing downward with both claws was not enough to pierce his skin.

He clearly states: "yeah -- your skin's harder to cut. So I'll go for somethin' softer". Then he slashes his eyes, and Hulk grabs him, then beats the crap outta Wolvie.

actaully Logan would have far less leverage to cut hulkd while in mid air, but nice try. Not to mention the fact logan was aiming for the arm that hulk was holding him in with.........so no wolverine was not using hulks strength.

You were simply ill imformed twice.

also your ahrder to cut.........does not equat in Logan being unable to cut hulk or even mean wolverine did not cut hulk all it means is hulk healing faster and he harder to damage.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
actaully Logan would have far less leverage to cut hulkd while in mid air, but nice try. Not to mention the fact logan was aiming for the arm that hulk was holding him in with.........so no wolverine was not using hulks strength.

You were simply ill imformed twice.

also your ahrder to cut.........does not equat in Logan being unable to cut hulk or even mean wolverine did not cut hulk all it means is hulk healing faster and he harder to damage.

When he plunged his claw into Hulk's forearm, it's clear that he has much better leverage than when he was coming down from the air.

Ergo, it was harder to cut the Hulk than it was earlier when he did the exact same move at the end of x-men vs. Hulk #1. Which proves me point, and disproves yours.

Originally posted by Kutulu
When he plunged his claw into Hulk's forearm, it's clear that he has much better leverage than when he was coming down from the air.

Ergo, it was harder to cut the Hulk than it was earlier when he did the exact same move at the end of x-men vs. Hulk #1. Which proves me point, and disproves yours.

actaully he had far less leverage. Being held in the air would give you far less leverage then jumping at some one.

Your scan proves didlly. It simply proves Logan can and did cut hulk.......

also at the end of x-men vs hulk issue one we don't even see Logan we simply see hulk get cut from behind.

so your entire arguement is moot.

Logan has never once failed to cut hulk with in a battle unless he had bone claws

Originally posted by Battlehammer
actaully he had far less leverage. Being held in the air would give you far less leverage then jumping at some one.

Your scan proves didlly. It simply proves Logan can and did cut hulk.......

also at the end of x-men vs hulk issue one we don't even see Logan we simply see hulk get cut from behind.

so your entire arguement is moot.

Logan has never once failed to cut hulk with in a battle unless he had bone claws

No, the first strike (which is meaningless btw since Wolverine obviously cuts him every other time) does jack shit to Hulk. You just have to look at picture and think about why he'd go for a softer target.

it did jack shit in the senses that hulk was fien from the assuelt, but there really nothing to suggest hulk was not cut.

Originally posted by strengthkills
See WWH#3.

Originally posted by Kutulu
Answers: Yes Hulk can resist telepathy, he did so against Xavier no problem, one of the top telepaths on Marvel Earth. Yes he can resist phasing, Vision tried to phase into him but got trapped once he got mad enough, and started to take damage. He also resisted getting phased into the ground by Kitty Pride.

In regards to resisting diamonds: when Wolverine initially slashed him, he had no problem sinking his adamantium (sharper than diamonds and more hard) claws into his flesh, later on he couldn't do the same feat, because his skin had grown that much more dense. Ben 10 can literally do nothing to put WWH down for less than a panel or two at best.

Originally posted by Kutulu
Ok name some other bricks that can do this:

So growing gills is now PIS? No - it is NOT PIS. It's the opposite of PIS, PII, or Plot Induced Intelligence. Instead of him just holding his breath, his body adapted and made gills. It shows that his body has the capability to adapt to extreme conditions.

He has overcome the following transmutations:
* Being shrunken down to a tiny size by Goom. Grew right back up to normal size.
* Being turned into stone by Gray Gargoyle.
* numerous incredible healing feats, such as healing his brain stem which was severed, a broken neck, getting his midsection blown open by Dr. Strange, etc..
* Being immune to ALL diseases.
* Surviving Glazier's transmuation powers.
* Unaffected by High Evolutionary's devolving powers:

What about his other non-brick powers?
* Being able to sense the presence of magic:

* senses Vision approaching above ground while he is below ground:

* sees astral forms:

This doesn't even include the absolutely massive, in-character, long history of resisting both illusions and telepathy. His body seems to be able to adapt to almost anything and return to it's normal state. That is not normal regeneration. Normal regeneration will not regenerate mutated cells, Hulk can literally regenerate DNA damage.

To top it off, I didn't even mention his ability to touch energy with his hands and affect it. That's not a pure brick ability either. No matter how strong you are, you cannot lift up something made of electricity. Hulk has done that though.

That is why I place him in the shapechanger class, not the simple brick class. To those that claim that Wolverine not piercing Hulk's skin when he got mad enough facing the X-men as PIS, it's not the first time that has happened:

Originally posted by Kutulu
So you're telling me that Waybig is stronger than Gladiator, who can move planets on his own? Because even Gladiator couldn't accomplish what you're saying... so just how strong do you think Waybig is?

another point I'd like to bring up (sorry if there is a rule for multiple posts) is benmumy, who can vertually heal from any injury so if hulk crushes his hand he goes ben mummy and heals, benmummy could hel from hulk ripping him in half

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
another point I'd like to bring up (sorry if there is a rule for multiple posts) is benmumy, who can vertually heal from any injury so if hulk crushes his hand he goes ben mummy and heals, benmummy could hel from hulk ripping him in half

But if Hulk rips him in half he won't be able to use the Omnitrix to switch.