Originally posted by TricksterPriest
for the record, Supes would lose to Squirrel Girl too. 😛 I freely recoqnize her insane jobber aura.Supes vs. the F4 is spite. There's really no way they can win if Supes is even half-trying.
People hate Supes on KMC yes, but we also recoqnize that he's really uber. In a certain sense, Sentry will never equal Superman. Few characters would. Supes is the first real superhero.
But on the debating end, Sentry doesn't have the feats to match up against someone like Superman. Sentry beats Hulk, whoop-de-doo. When Hulk is comparable to Orion, Mongul, The General, Bizarro, etc, let me know.
Superman's rogues gallery>>>Hulk's rogues gallery, and what little we've seen of Sentry's as well.
And nobody's gonna be crying. Challengers revealed that Kyle will survive, and be back as Ion. shocklaugh
And you have the gall to claim that *I'm biased for Superman?
The fact is that Sentry does operate at a higher level than Superman day to day usual showings. When ytou get to Superman all out, Darkseid wrecking type levels, the yeah, you got a guy on par with anything Sentry's ever done. but Sueprman is not suually at that level due to his superhuman holding back factor.
Originally posted by panthergodBut on this site its not holding back. Which Superman and Sentry both do. Sentry states it so does Superman.
And you have the gall to claim that *I'm biased for Superman?The fact is that Sentry does operate at a higher level than Superman day to day usual showings. When ytou get to Superman all out, Darkseid wrecking type levels, the yeah, you got a guy on par with anything Sentry's ever done. but Sueprman is not suually at that level due to his superhuman holding back factor.
But Sentrys durability lets him down.
Originally posted by panthergod
And you have the gall to claim that *I'm biased for Superman?The fact is that Sentry does operate at a higher level than Superman day to day usual showings. When ytou get to Superman all out, Darkseid wrecking type levels, the yeah, you got a guy on par with anything Sentry's ever done. but Sueprman is not suually at that level due to his superhuman holding back factor.
Superman's feats are WORLDS ahead of Sentry's.
He's pushed a moon out of orbit.
One time almost by accident.
He's Flown through a red sun unharmed.
He flew to Krypton in a few moments.
He has alot of feats that put him above Sentry, just
check the respect thread.
Originally posted by Sirius77
And Galactus eats them.
But Thor defeated him.Thor is not as powerful as Superman, and Sentry is not as
powerful as Thor.Hank Henshaw has Superman's DNA, plus the source wall tech,
plus Apocalypse tech, plus Kryptonian Tech, plus eight GL rings,
plus two Qwardian rings... and soon CLOC.Henshaw ftw.
Thor isn't as powerful as Superman?!!?!?!?
Sorry buddy, but as long as one of his hands is wrapped around the handle of Mjnollir, he trumps Superman.
Superman is the 100 to Thor's 95 physically, but that 5% difference doesn't make him an entire tier above, and with the hammer, it's Thor overall at 200 to Superman at 100.
And Sentry isn't as powerful as Thor?
Likely not, when it comes to overall power points.
But physically, he's above.
And if Jelly, the biggest and sanest (now that he's distanced himself from SHC) Superman supporter i've seen yet can say that Sentry is above standard day to day Superman levels, how can he not be above the physical stats of a Superman from 14 years ago?!
And i don't have the scan for Sentry holding the cosmic cube, but i'll see if i can find it.
And yet, Sentry and Genis destroying multiple worlds in a fight isn't proof of elite top tier power, yet many would agree that Photon would likely beat Superman for a majority..........
Sentry is in a fight that destroys multiple worlds.......but he's not ont he level of Superman, who's yet to destroy one world.
Yet, earlier you bring up Superman destroying a moon, which is smaller than a planet significantly....
Yet you have no agenda.
He's got the goods and the feats(few tho they are) to put him on that level.
You just don't want him there.
At least admit it, and face your bias, is all i want.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Thor isn't as powerful as Superman?!!?!?!?Sorry buddy, but as long as one of his hands is wrapped around the handle of Mjnollir, he trumps Superman.
Superman is the 100 to Thor's 95 physically, but that 5% difference doesn't make him an entire tier above, and with the hammer, it's Thor overall at 200 to Superman at 100.
And Sentry isn't as powerful as Thor?
Likely not, when it comes to overall power points.
But physically, he's above.
And if Jelly, the biggest and sanest (now that he's distanced himself from SHC) Superman supporter i've seen yet can say that Sentry is above standard day to day Superman levels, how can he not be above the physical stats of a Superman from 14 years ago?!
And i don't have the scan for Sentry holding the cosmic cube, but i'll see if i can find it.
And yet, Sentry and Genis destroying multiple worlds in a fight isn't proof of elite top tier power, yet many would agree that Photon would likely beat Superman for a majority..........
Sentry is in a fight that destroys multiple worlds.......but he's not ont he level of Superman, who's yet to destroy one world.
Yet, earlier you bring up Superman destroying a moon, which is smaller than a planet significantly....
Yet you have no agenda.
He's got the goods and the feats(few tho they are) to put him on that level.
You just don't want him there.
At least admit it, and face your bias, is all i want.
Physically, he doesn't have the feats to match against Supes.
"And if Jelly, the biggest and sanest (now that he's distanced himself from SHC) Superman supporter i've seen yet can say that Sentry is above standard day to day Superman levels, how can he not be above the physical stats of a Superman from 14 years ago?!" WOAH WOAH WOAH! Jellyrobes, sane? 🤨 The man's a raving loon.
Genis was toying with Sentry, let's be real here. Sentry did not stalemate Genis-Vel.
Supes has destroyed planets before, and I'm not going into that respect thread to look for the scans. 😛
If or when, Sentry gets more feats, and starts living up to even a 1/10th of his hype, then we can talk about comparing him to the man of steel.
He doesn't have the cred, the feats, or the history to challenge Superman.
And this isn't the 'Supes clone' bias. He's just not good enough.
And we're off-topic anyways. He's not facing Superman. He's fighting Hank Henshaw. A guy who has one-shotted Supes. 😈
Originally posted by Sirius77
Superman's feats are WORLDS ahead of Sentry's.He's pushed a moon out of orbit.
One time almost by accident.He's Flown through a red sun unharmed.
He flew to Krypton in a few moments.
He has alot of feats that put him above Sentry, just
check the respect thread.
Now beating Darkseid like a dog, stalemating E-2 Superman while warping space/time and destroying an Earth with the residual force of his punches, those are the type of feats you want to point to.
And no, Superman is not 'world's' ahead of Sentry. that's is laughable ignorant fanboyism.
And I'm a notorious Superman fan.
Sentry and Superman are peers.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Thor isn't as powerful as Superman?!!?!?!?Sorry buddy, but as long as one of his hands is wrapped around the handle of Mjnollir, he trumps Superman.
Superman is the 100 to Thor's 95 physically, but that 5% difference doesn't make him an entire tier above, and with the hammer, it's Thor overall at 200 to Superman at 100.
And Sentry isn't as powerful as Thor?
Likely not, when it comes to overall power points.
But physically, he's above.
And if Jelly, the biggest and sanest (now that he's distanced himself from SHC) Superman supporter i've seen yet can say that Sentry is above standard day to day Superman levels, how can he not be above the physical stats of a Superman from 14 years ago?!
And i don't have the scan for Sentry holding the cosmic cube, but i'll see if i can find it.
And yet, Sentry and Genis destroying multiple worlds in a fight isn't proof of elite top tier power, yet many would agree that Photon would likely beat Superman for a majority..........
Sentry is in a fight that destroys multiple worlds.......but he's not ont he level of Superman, who's yet to destroy one world.
Yet, earlier you bring up Superman destroying a moon, which is smaller than a planet significantly....
Yet you have no agenda.
He's got the goods and the feats(few tho they are) to put him on that level.
You just don't want him there.
At least admit it, and face your bias, is all i want.
Not that it matters, but Superman been destroyed a planet.
And yes, Sentry is clearly physically above Byrne Era Superman/Eradicator/Henshaw
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Physically, he doesn't have the feats to match against Supes."And if Jelly, the biggest and sanest (now that he's distanced himself from SHC) Superman supporter i've seen yet can say that Sentry is above standard day to day Superman levels, how can he not be above the physical stats of a Superman from 14 years ago?!" WOAH WOAH WOAH! Jellyrobes, sane? 🤨 The man's a raving loon.
Genis was toying with Sentry, let's be real here. Sentry did not stalemate Genis-Vel.
Supes has destroyed planets before, and I'm not going into that respect thread to look for the scans. 😛
If or when, Sentry gets more feats, and starts living up to even a 1/10th of his hype, then we can talk about comparing him to the man of steel.
He doesn't have the cred, the feats, or the history to challenge Superman.
And this isn't the 'Supes clone' bias. He's just not good enough.
And we're off-topic anyways. He's not facing Superman. He's fighting Hank Henshaw. A guy who has one-shotted Supes. 😈
Sentry said he was holding back against Genis so we still don't know his power limits. 😄
Originally posted by UniOmni
Thor isn't as powerful as Superman?!!?!?!?Sorry buddy, but as long as one of his hands is wrapped around the handle of Mjnollir, he trumps Superman.
Superman is the 100 to Thor's 95 physically, but that 5% difference doesn't make him an entire tier above, and with the hammer, it's Thor overall at 200 to Superman at 100.
And Sentry isn't as powerful as Thor?
Likely not, when it comes to overall power points.
But physically, he's above.
And if Jelly, the biggest and sanest (now that he's distanced himself from SHC) Superman supporter i've seen yet can say that Sentry is above standard day to day Superman levels, how can he not be above the physical stats of a Superman from 14 years ago?!
And i don't have the scan for Sentry holding the cosmic cube, but i'll see if i can find it.
And yet, Sentry and Genis destroying multiple worlds in a fight isn't proof of elite top tier power, yet many would agree that Photon would likely beat Superman for a majority..........
Sentry is in a fight that destroys multiple worlds.......but he's not ont he level of Superman, who's yet to destroy one world.
Yet, earlier you bring up Superman destroying a moon, which is smaller than a planet significantly....
Yet you have no agenda.
He's got the goods and the feats(few tho they are) to put him on that level.
You just don't want him there.
At least admit it, and face your bias, is all i want.
Where are you getting this 14 years ago crap?
Hank Henshaw has since gotten many times more powerful since
he and Superman last fought.
Hes taken out all of the GL Manhunters, and then put them under his
control. Then upgraded them.
He has copied the source wall tech.
Gotten sucked into a black Hole, and not only survived, but
upgraded.
He has absorbed several creatures from the Phantom zone. And
broken out of it.
He has also copied the geneti-lock and the Apocalypse tech.
Also, as far as the Superman=Thor thing, you've seen JLA/Avengers right? That was cannon. Also, the writer of both Superman and Thor, Jurgens, said that Superman was many hundreds of times stronger than Thor. As for Mjolnir... Supes caught that in his hand, and proceeded to clock the f*** out of Thor. So, the next time that you try to say crap like Thor=200 and Superman=100, READ COMICS.
Also, as far as the Sentry and Genis destroying multiple worlds...
have you ever heard of a hyperbole? Spiderman said the same thing about Sentry defeating Galactus... funny how we never see these world
crushing feats, isnt it? 🙄
I've heard the same exact thing about superman, in fact, theres a scan that referrs to him as saving the omniverse.
Also, how many times has Superman taken the Omega Effect?
So, basically, if you want to call me biased, that's fine, but the
feats that I have named have been on panel... yours... lol...
yours are all hyperboles. 😆 😆