Sentry vs Hank Henshaw

Originally posted by panthergod
Since Eradicator and Henshaw were created then and are physically equal to the Superman of the early 90's, then yeah, citing the level of physical power they are on is relevant.

Henshaw, I haven't got to compare to Superman recently,[as he's not much of a Superman enemy and doesn't appear often] but there's no reason to believe he's still at early 90's levels of prowess, when EVERY DC character is written stronger now.

Originally posted by panthergod
None of those necessarily make Superman 'world's superior.

Now beating Darkseid like a dog, stalemating E-2 Superman while warping space/time and destroying an Earth with the residual force of his punches, those are the type of feats you want to point to.

And no, Superman is not 'world's' ahead of Sentry. that's is laughable ignorant fanboyism.

And I'm a notorious Superman fan.

Sentry and Superman are peers.

You appearently have no grasp of the concept of on panel
feats, do you? 😆

Originally posted by Sirius77
Where are you getting this 14 years ago crap?
Hank Henshaw has since gotten many times more powerful since
he and Superman last fought.

Also, as far as the Sentry and Genis destroying multiple worlds...
have you ever heard of a hyperbole? Spiderman said the same thing about Sentry defeating Galactus... funny how we never see these world
crushing feats, isnt it? 🙄
I've heard the same exact thing about superman, in fact, theres a scan that referrs to him as saving the omniverse.
Also, how many times has Superman taken the Omega Effect?

So, basically, if you want to call me biased, that's fine, but the
feats that I have named have been on panel... yours... lol...
yours are all hyperboles. 😆 😆

You have some facts wrong and need to step you rkjnolwegde up on certain things.

Sentry looks physically superior to Henshaw in terms of strength and durabililty on average.

That being said Henshaw is a beast with tech and has sinestro rings. that makes up for and trumps Sentry's natural raw power advantage.

Superman has shown superior durability to Sentry, Hankshaw with his tech he one shotted Supes, he can do the same to Sentry.

Originally posted by Juntai
Last I saw, Eradicator is still the physical equivelent of Superman now as well. Giving how he was beginning to hand it to Kal and Kon El at the same time during Infinite Crisis, before he got blindsided. In fact, he's been Superman's near equal in pretty much every appearance I can remember.

Henshaw, I haven't got to compare to Superman recently,[as he's not much of a Superman enemy and doesn't appear often] but there's no reason to believe he's still at early 90's levels of prowess, when EVERY DC character is written stronger now. [/QUOTE]

Originally posted by panthergod
Actually, he's been clearly dominated by Superman in virtually every encounter they've had since those times. where Eradicator got destroyed by Henshaw, Superman beat Henshaw straight up multiple times.

Sueprman also physically dominated Eradicator in Man of Steel 97.

IIRC Superman stomped Eradicator physically in Infinite Crisis and was clearly superior..

Eradicator hasn't been physically equal to Superman in his base form in 14-15 years.

Henshaw, I haven't got to compare to Superman recently,[as he's not much of a Superman enemy and doesn't appear often] but there's no reason to believe he's still at early 90's levels of prowess, when EVERY DC character is written stronger now.

Of course Superman is always going to end up physically beating Eradicator, but they are still peers in this regard.

The idea Henshaw hasn't gained in power in 15 years is laughable here, at best. If he was a peer then, he still is. That's the way they're written. Otherwise you're basically suggesting that Hawkman is nearly the physical peer of Henshaw, and all the real heavyweights are by and far way out of his league.

Btw, control your tags.

Erads loses to Supes if he fights like an idiot, or as Avlon put it, if David in control. His Kem-El persona is a match for Superman, and capable of taking a majority, which he has done. Eradicator's superiority isn't rooted in his physical stats, it's his experience and other powers that put him above Superman in a KMC fight.

Henshaw on the other hand, hasn't lost to Supes since Reign of the Supermen.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Erads loses to Supes if he fights like an idiot, or as Avlon put it, if David in control. His Kem-El persona is a match for Superman, and capable of taking a majority, which he has done. Eradicator's superiority isn't rooted in his physical stats, it's his experience and other powers that put him above Superman in a KMC fight.

Henshaw on the other hand, hasn't lost to Supes since Reign of the Supermen.

Originally posted by panthergod
Not in terms of his physical stats he hasn't.

yeah yeah yeah...no one was talking about his tech powers. physical stats/kryptonian powerset only was what was reffered to.

And he later corrected that ridiculous statement.

Yeah, that's true Sueprman is clearly stronger than Thor, as far as those who are ignorant and or delusional are concerned.

You have some facts wrong and need to step you rkjnolwegde up on certain things.

Sentry looks physically superior to Henshaw in terms of strength and durabililty on average.

That being said Henshaw is a beast with tech and has sinestro rings. that makes up for and trumps Sentry's natural raw power advantage.

So, let me get this straight. You think that I'm "ignorant and or delusional " because I referred to the cannon Superman vs Thor fight, and I referenced a true statement from the writer that wrote both of them? I really don't understand where you're coming from, or why you're so angry...

Superman is stronger than Thor, and Cyborg Superman has one-
shotted Superman:
http://img235.imageshack.us/my.php?image=superman108p12st7.jpg
http://img235.imageshack.us/my.php?image=superman108p13jg5.jpg

Also, what makes you think that every Kryptonian except for
Henshaw got a powerup?
Have you read Sinestro Corps? It took Hal, Guy, Kilowog, and others to beat him when he had one ring. And they had to tap into the main Battery of Oa to do so.
Even afterwards, he still survived, and now he has eight GL rings and two Qwardian power rings.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Erads loses to Supes if he fights like an idiot, or as Avlon put it, if David in control. His Kem-El persona is a match for Superman, and capable of taking a majority, which he has done. Eradicator's superiority isn't rooted in his physical stats, it's his experience and other powers that put him above Superman in a KMC fight.

Henshaw on the other hand, hasn't lost to Supes since Reign of the Supermen.

Wrong.

Henshaw lost to Superman soon after the Return of Superman, when he'd beaten Steel, Eradicator, Superboy and i think Supergirl.

He also later got handled by Superman in H/P after hitting him with a sneak attack, only to have his conscious captured by Darkseid.

Originally posted by Sirius77
So, let me get this straight. You think that I'm "ignorant and or delusional " because I referred to the cannon Superman vs Thor fight, and I referenced a true statement from the writer that wrote both of them? I really don't understand where you're coming from, or why you're so angry...

Superman is stronger than Thor, and Cyborg Superman has one-
shotted Superman:
http://img235.imageshack.us/my.php?image=superman108p12st7.jpg
http://img235.imageshack.us/my.php?image=superman108p13jg5.jpg

Also, what makes you think that every Kryptonian except for
Henshaw got a powerup?
Have you read Sinestro Corps? It took Hal, Guy, Kilowog, and others to beat him when he had one ring. And they had to tap into the main Battery of Oa to do so.
Even afterwards, he still survived, and now he has eight GL rings and two Qwardian power rings.

A case can be made for either being stronger than the other.

Personally, i believe Superman to be a shade stronger, but it's not Superman's 100 in strength to Thor's 80.

More like Supermans 100 to Thors 90-95.

And as long as he holds the hammer and the godblast, he flat out trumps Superman in range and power.

Originally posted by UniOmni
A case can be made for either being stronger than the other.

Personally, i believe Superman to be a shade stronger, but it's not Superman's 100 in strength to Thor's 80.

More like Supermans 100 to Thors 90-95.

And as long as he holds the hammer and the godblast, he flat out trumps Superman in range and power.

Superman is Class 100+. There was a thread before this one.
All-Star Superman vs Thanos. I made it, everyone came to a conclusion
that you'll just love. You should check it out.

Originally posted by Juntai
Did Supes' DNA change after the early 90s were over?

The claim that Eradicator is somehow on level with Byrne Superman is pure gutter trash. Hell, Eradicator was the reason Superman got his power up in the 90's. Second, he had no problem going toe to toe with Superman long after his powering up on multiple occasions.

And Byrne Eradicator was no joke. Under Byrne, Eradicator essentially had NO limits. The personality thing was brought after Byrne was gone.

I haven't seen anything from Sentry that puts him as physically superior to even Byrne Superman, who has some nice feats of his own.

Henshaw has always kept pace with Supes.

Originally posted by Sirius77
Superman is Class 100+. There was a thread before this one.
All-Star Superman vs Thanos. I made it, everyone came to a conclusion
that you'll just love. You should check it out.

Um, Class 100 is just an archaic classification system that doesn't apply.

Going by the requirements, Thing would be Class 100, but he's not.

Class 100 is just an extremely old, and stupid way of saying incalculable in strength.

Superman were he to be in Marvel would not be ranked Class 100+ with all his feats. He'd be class 100.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Wrong.

Henshaw lost to Superman soon after the Return of Superman, when he'd beaten Steel, Eradicator, Superboy and i think Supergirl.

He also later got handled by Superman in H/P after hitting him with a sneak attack, only to have his conscious captured by Darkseid.

👽

Originally posted by UniOmni
Um, Class 100 is just an archaic classification system that doesn't apply.

Going by the requirements, Thing would be Class 100, but he's not.

Class 100 is just an extremely old, and stupid way of saying incalculable in strength.

Superman were he to be in Marvel would not be ranked Class 100+ with all his feats. He'd be class 100.

You should really check out the thread.

Originally posted by Avlon
The claim that Eradicator is somehow on level with Byrne Superman is pure gutter trash. Hell, Eradicator was the reason Superman got his power up in the 90's. Second, he had no problem going toe to toe with Superman long after his powering up on multiple occasions.

And Byrne Eradicator was no joke. Under Byrne, Eradicator essentially had NO limits. The personality thing was brought after Byrne was gone.

I haven't seen anything from Sentry that puts him as physically superior to even Byrne Superman, who has some nice feats of his own.

Henshaw has always kept pace with Supes.

Byrne Superman had some great feats, but let's keep it real. He was usually equal to Thor/Hercles. that was the whole point of the difference between pre and post crisis Superman he was brougth down to Marvel's top tier Class 100 levels.

And here's where he contains the cosmic cube.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/Argosax/sentryff_08CosmicCube.jpg

Props to Argosax to for the find.

Originally posted by panthergod
I'm sorry, but that is absolutely insane.

Byrne Superman had some great feats, but let's keep it real. He was usually equal to Thor/Hercles. that was the whole point of the difference between pre and post crisis Superman he was brougth down to Marvel's top tier Class 100 levels.

But we're talking about Henshaws current level.
These days all Kryptonians have been amped to
ridiculous levels.