Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
I'm sorry, but I don't see Northstar directly blitzing Sasquatch. In Fact, was Northstar even aiming to attack Sasquatch?
Read the issue then and yes, because he wanted Walter to loose his temper and become the monster he keeps telling his sister Walter really is.
The whole reason Sasquatch snapped was because of Northstar
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Never helped him against other class 100 brutes ie. Hercules or Hulk.
Surfers speed's never helped him against Thor, does that mean he isn't the faster of the two?
Btw....
http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/?action=view¤t=Thorowninghulk1.jpg
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If thats not owning a character through superior skill and speed than I don't know what is.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Read the issue then and yes, because he wanted Walter to loose his temper and become the monster he keeps telling his sister Walter really is.The whole reason Sasquatch snapped was because of Northstar
So his intentions weren't actually to cause harm to Sasquatch, but to anger him? Could the outcome have not been different if Northstar actually wished to defeat and or harm Sasquatch?
Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
So his intentions weren't actually to cause harm to Sasquatch, but to anger him? Could the outcome have not been different if Northstar actually wished to defeat and or harm Sasquatch?
No, he wanted to harm him, which would cause him to get angry and lose control. Northstar hated Walter for dating his sister and I mean hated.
Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
Which is exactly my point. It's obvious Iron-Man is slower than Superman and WW, but have the duo's travel speed ever been translated to a blitz? To my knowledge, No. Just as the scan provided shows, all we know is that they go fast when they blitz because the speed of blitzes are never directly defined in comics. It's left up to reader interpretation.I understand what your saying. However I do feel the scan should answer any questions about Thor's speed when compared to Sasquatch.
Compared to Sasquatch? Absolutely no argument there. 🙂.
I'd go back and forth with you for pages if you used it in a Thor vs. Flash thread, though, 😛.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
When has Silver Surfer EVER used his speed in a fight? Travel speed and combat speed are two completly different thingsUh huh..shall I post the scans of their other fights then? Where Thor doesn't do nearly as well
In their first an encounter, but now that you mention it, couldn't the same argument be used for Thor in terms with his fights against Hulk and the bunch? It's a applicable argument as it's been stated numerous times that Thor holds back.
Sure, and I'll post the fight where Hulk is killed by Thor. 🙂
Originally posted by King_Mungi
No, he wanted to harm him, which would cause him to get angry and lose control. Northstar hated Walter for dating his sister and I mean hated.
To a certain extent, but it's obvious he's holding back because Sasquatch is an ally. He wouldn't go as hard against Sasquatch as he would against a character he was trying to kill or defeat.
Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
In their first an encounter, but now that you mention it, couldn't the same argument be used for Thor in terms with his fights against Hulk and the bunch? It's a applicable argument as it's been stated numerous times that Thor holds back.Sure, and I'll post the fight where Hulk is killed by Thor. 🙂
Not really as Hulk can increase his strength to unlimited levels same as Sasquatch. However, the reason I'm giving Thor the majority here as he has more then just strength going for him. Sasquatch is said to hold back as well as Tanaraq would take control, soooo...
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/AlphaFlight12-29.jpg
Meh! can't have it both ways if you gave me a hard time if I posted the durability feat from Exiles Sasquatch
Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
To a certain extent, but it's obvious he's holding back because Sasquatch is an ally. He wouldn't go as hard against Sasquatch as he would against a character he was trying to kill or defeat.
Your not familar with Northstar are you? He hated Alpha Flight, he hated being on a team and basically hated everyone. The only reason he remained on the team was because of Aurora and that was stated multiple times by Northstar himself.
Even Alpha Flight #12, Northstar tries to hurt Sasquatch by landing hundreds of blows in a second when Sas was trapped in a magical spell by Shaman as he grabbed Northstar then too.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Not really as Hulk can increase his strength to unlimited levels same as Sasquatch. However, the reason I'm giving Thor the majority here as he has more then just strength going for him. Sasquatch is said to hold back as well as Tanaraq would take control, soooo...http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/AlphaFlight12-29.jpg
Meh! can't have it both ways if you gave me a hard time if I posted the durability feat from Exiles Sasquatch
Your not familar with Northstar are you? He hated Alpha Flight, he hated being on a team and basically hated everyone. The only reason he remained on the team was because of Aurora and that was stated multiple times by Northstar himself.
Even Alpha Flight #12, Northstar tries to hurt Sasquatch by landing hundreds of blows in a second when Sas was trapped in a magical spell by Shaman as he grabbed Northstar then too.
What does Hulk and Sasquatch having the ability to increase their strength have to do with Thor and his speed?
So..... He'd get knocked out, or sent out of orbit before he awakens Tanaraq.
Except Thor killed Hulk in a canon 616 comic.....
So your telling me he'd go as hard against Sasquatch as he would Dr. Doom?
Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
What does Hulk and Sasquatch having the ability to increase their strength have to do with Thor and his speed?So..... He'd get knocked out, or sent out of orbit before he awakens Tanaraq.
Except Thor killed Hulk in a canon 616 comic.....
So your telling me he'd go as hard against Sasquatch as he would Dr. Doom?
Just talking about overall ability, here is Sasquatch moving so fast Northstar doesn't have time to think. Also in the next issues issues both the twins show amazing speed and reflexes [some of their best] so this is quite impressive.
1. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/AlphaFlight12-16.jpg
Yeah I know what your talking about, but that was King Thor
Truthfully yeah, he even attacks Walter in AF #12 as the two got back together.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Just talking about overall ability, here is Sasquatch moving so fast Northstar doesn't have time to think. Also in the next issues issues both the twins show amazing speed and reflexes [some of their best] so this is quite impressive.1. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/AlphaFlight12-16.jpg
Yeah I know what your talking about, but that was King Thor
Truthfully yeah, he even attacks Walter in AF #12 as the two got back together.
You should read the little pink caption at the bottom of the scan. It basically explains it all.
But anyways....
http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/?action=view¤t=Thorspeed.jpg
http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/?action=view¤t=ThorvsUlik1.jpg
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Speed.....
Whom at that time was normal powered Thor. No Odin force, No Mjolnir.
Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
You should read the little pink caption at the bottom of the scan. It basically explains it all.But anyways....
http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/?action=view¤t=Thorspeed.jpg
http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/?action=view¤t=ThorvsUlik1.jpg
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Speed.....
Whom at that time was normal powered Thor. No Odin force, No Mjolnir.
and did you read my post? Right after this issue they went on to do their best speed and reflexes feats. Such as run mach 17.7 through a city and zig zag between lightening bolts. Once again back to my earlier point, are you familar with Northstar at all?
I'm sorry but basically all those scans are really not that impressive speed wise at all. Some are hyperbole, even Sasquatch was said to move like lightening but I don't take it serious. Also shall I post the other times the Wrecking Crew have fought Thor? As they have had far more impressive showings then that. Even Wrecker has swatted away Ulik like nothing, and Wrecker is no speedster.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
and did you read my post? Right after this issue they went on to do their best speed and reflexes feats. Such as run mach 17.7 through a city and zig zag between lightening bolts. Once again back to my earlier point, are you familar with Northstar at all?I'm sorry but basically all those scans are really not that impressive speed wise at all. Some are hyperbole, even Sasquatch was said to move like lightening but I don't take it serious. Also shall I post the other times the Wrecking Crew have fought Thor? As they have had far more impressive showings then that. Even Wrecker has swatted away Ulik like nothing, and Wrecker is no speedster.
So you either didn't read the caption, or chose to ignore it. Here, I'll post it for you.
"Although Northstar and Aurora possess superspeed their reflexes are not proportionately faster".
Meaning their reflexes aren't proportionately greater than that of normal human, making your Sasquatch feat less than impressive.
The feats aren't meant to be overly impressive but examples to match the one you posted.
BTW, when Wrecker and Ulik fought, Ulik didn't possess gloves that could supposedly smash worlds. Not that it matters as the feat wasn't meant to show Thor defeating Ulik, but display his speed and skill.
Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
So you either didn't read the caption, or chose to ignore it. Here, I'll post it for you."Although Northstar and Aurora possess superspeed their reflexes are not proportionately faster".
Meaning their reflexes aren't proportionately greater than that of normal human, making your Sasquatch feat less than impressive.
The feats aren't meant to be overly impressive but examples to match the one you posted.
Wait..so your saying they have normal human reflexes? *snickers* Umm..no, as the previous issue it stated they have superhuman reflexes. It's talking about say they go lightspeed they don't have the reflexes [back then] to react to it. Have you seen anything the twins have done? Honestly?
Once again I'm not saying Sasquatch is faster far from it, but Thor has never shown overly impressive speed against Hulk, Namor and majority of the time against the Wrecking Crew, etc.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Wait..so your saying they have normal human reflexes? *snickers* Umm..no, as the previous issue it stated they have superhuman reflexes. It's talking about say they go lightspeed they don't have the reflexes [back then] to react to it. Have you seen anything the twins have done? Honestly?Once again I'm not saying Sasquatch is faster far from it, but Thor has never shown overly impressive speed against Hulk, Namor and majority of the time against the Wrecking Crew, etc.
I'm basing it off the scan you provided, and according to the scan you provided, their "reflexes aren't proportionately faster" than a normal human. This is your scan, not mine.
And the same could be said about um...... every top tier?
Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
I'm basing it off the scan you provided, and according to the scan you provided, their "reflexes aren't proportionately faster" than a normal human. This is your scan, not mine.And the same could be said about um...... every top tier?
and I just explained it, as before this issue and after this issue they state they have superhuman reflexes and right after performed their greatest speed/reflexes feat.
Pretty much, but there were earlier claims in this thread Thor would be so fast Sasquatch wouldn't know what to do and that's down right false.
