Sasquatch VS Thor

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
To my knowledge nobody was making that insinuation that Sasquatch wouldn't be able to deal with his speed. Only that Thor was faster; which he is.

All it takes is one second. This isn't a comic where Thor is going to be downgraded for the greater good of the comic. He won't sit, talk, and take it easy on him. He's bloodlusted; and when bloodlusted, Thor has proven to be one of, if not the most potent Herald lv charcaters in comics.

Read the first page, but they were implying that it would make a difference when it really wouldn't

The more pain or rage Sasquatch experiences the more Tanaraq takes control. If this is bloodlusted Sasquatch as well, it makes it easier for Tanaraq to boost him up as give him basically unlimited power.

Originally posted by Kenny 07
Sas being underrated here.

He loses but not so easily as people think.

But current not holding back Thor would be a beating...I think, still not enough information.

Bingo that's my whole point

I would say so as there isn't an indication he has lost his Odin power

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
Obviously, if we were taking feats into consideration this wouldn't be a discussion.

I'm talking about Sasquatch becoming an Elder God who even in Omega Flight showed he was above Thor in power.

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
It's called holding back Mungi. Just as Superman does, Thor does.

Do you need scans and quotes of this?

Oh come on he isn't always holding back against the likes of Hulk or majority of the time against the Wrecking Crew.

No, but saying he is holding back against every top-tier? come on. Against humans, sure or mid-range characters but top tier like Hulk?

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
He has however displayed super speed. Speed that completely dwarfs that of Northstar, Sasquatch, and whomever else you pull out your veil of Canadian characters.

What do Gladiators low feats have to do with him utilizing speed in battles with Thor? Yeah, I know. Nothing.

What 4 herald lv characters are you speaking of? Not that it matters as Thor's done the same.

Of course he has, but has he ever in a fight? Never. As I mentioned earlier there's a difference in combat speed and traveling speed. Are you kidding me? I see your trying to pull things out of your arse as no where did I state Northstar > Silver Surfer. However, people were using Iron Man [YOU!] and Quicksilver as comparable speed feats to Northstar, which is false and proven to be false

Gladiator has never used his superspeed in a fight, don't claim he does as he hasn't. Also your posting scans of when Thor battles the Crew and the Hulk and they have had countless more stronger showings then the ones you posted.

Wrecking Crew, he charged them up where even Wrecker was beating Beta Ray Bill and gave them command of Surtur's demon army.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Read the first page, but they were implying that it would make a difference when it really wouldn't

The more pain or rage Sasquatch experiences the more Tanaraq takes control. If this is bloodlusted Sasquatch as well, it makes it easier for Tanaraq to boost him up as give him basically unlimited power.

Bingo that's my whole point

I would say so as there isn't an indication he has lost his Odin power

I'm talking about Sasquatch becoming an Elder God who even in Omega Flight showed he was above Thor in power.

Oh come on he isn't always holding back against the likes of Hulk or majority of the time against the Wrecking Crew.

No, but saying he is holding back against every top-tier? come on. Against humans, sure or mid-range characters but top tier like Hulk?

Of course he has, but has he ever in a fight? Never. As I mentioned earlier there's a difference in combat speed and traveling speed. Are you kidding me? I see your trying to pull things out of your arse as no where did I state Northstar > Silver Surfer. However, people were using Iron Man [YOU!] and Quicksilver as comparable speed feats.

Gladiator has never used his superspeed in a fight, don't claim he does as he hasn't. Also your posting scans of when Thor battles the Crew and the Hulk and they have had countless more stronger showings then the ones you posted.

Wrecking Crew, he charged them up where even Wrecker was beating Beta Ray Bill and gave them command of Surtur's dem

on army.

He stated he hasn't got an upgrade, just not holding back. Also it would be stupid of the writers to do so.

Just my opinion.

Originally posted by Kenny 07
He stated he hasn't got an upgrade, just not holding back. Also it would be stupid of the writers to do so.

Just my opinion.

He had the Odin power before he went to sleep [they said he died, but he didn't], he didn't just gain it recently as an upgrade he has had it for quite some time.

But didn't he have some kind of runes, when he went to sleep wouldn't he lose them? I missed quite a bit of last volumes Thor.

Originally posted by Kenny 07
But didn't he have some kind of runes, when he went to sleep wouldn't he lose them? I missed quite a bit of last volumes Thor.

That's the thing we don't know if he lost all that power, some say he hasn't as he recreated Asgard. However, as of right now no one knows there's only just speculation.

I was thinking, I can't remember exactly what happened. But didn't he use the hammer which has Odin magic, maybe he used the hammers magic instead of his own, and any Odin magic can create they're home or something like that. Just popped in my head.

If that makes sense.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
The more pain or rage Sasquatch experiences the more Tanaraq takes control. If this is bloodlusted Sasquatch as well, it makes it easier for Tanaraq to boost him up as give him basically unlimited power.

I'm talking about Sasquatch becoming an Elder God who even in Omega Flight showed he was above Thor in power.

Oh come on he isn't always holding back against the likes of Hulk or majority of the time against the Wrecking Crew.

No, but saying he is holding back against every top-tier? come on. Against humans, sure or mid-range characters but top tier like Hulk?

Of course he has, but has he ever in a fight? Never. As I mentioned earlier there's a difference in combat speed and traveling speed. Are you kidding me? I see your trying to pull things out of your arse as no where did I state Northstar > Silver Surfer. However, people were using Iron Man [YOU!] and Quicksilver as comparable speed feats.

Gladiator has never used his superspeed in a fight, don't claim he does as he hasn't. Also your posting scans of when Thor battles the Crew and the Hulk and they have had countless more stronger showings then the ones you posted.

Wrecking Crew, he charged them up where even Wrecker was beating Beta Ray Bill and gave them command of Surtur's demon army.

So Thor ends the fight with a single combo.

I hope your not implying he's more powerful than Thor with full control of the Odin Power?

You would know this how? It's been stated he holds back against mortals many times, disregarding this fact would be fan boyish. Especially when he's shown he can dispatch the characters at hand with relative ease. Not saying he holds back in every encounter, but you can tell the difference in power from one showing to the next.

Why would Thor want to kill Hulk? Better yet, when he did want to kill Hulk, why did Hulk end up dead?

So I'll ask you as you asked me. Have you ever read a Thor, Surfer encounter? Considering Surfer was on his board buzzing around Thor at blurring/blinding speed, it's safe to say you haven't.

Who said you stated that Northstar's speed > Surfers? I was only pointing out that countering Surfers speed was more impressive than countering Northstar's.

The Iron-Man speed blitz counter scan was used to display Thor's reflexes.

I'll ask again. have you ever read a Gladiator, Thor fight? You don't have to respond, as I already know the answer.

And this makes the herald lv how?

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
So Thor ends the fight with a single combo.

If Hulk couldn't when Sasquatch was calm why would Thor with a bloodlusted Sasquatch?

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher

I hope your not implying he's more powerful than Thor with full control of the Odin Power?

Sasquatch? HELL NO! Tanaraq? No idea, he hasn't do anything that comparable.

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher

You would know this how? It's been stated he holds back against mortals many times, disregarding this fact would be fan boyish. Especially when he's shown he can dispatch the characters at hand with relative ease. Not saying he holds back in every encounter, but you can tell the difference in power from one showing to the next.

Why would Thor want to kill Hulk? Better yet, when he did want to kill Hulk, why did Hulk end up dead?

*snickers* So Thor lets others beat him up in physical combat even when his life is threatened. Ooooooook. If Thor had his hammer in this fight I would give him 10/10 easily. However, this is physical fight and a fight that Walter can win..majority? doubt it, but a few..definetly.

With his hammer and using all his abilities HELL YEAH THOR CAN KILL HULK. Just using his fists? come on now.

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher

So I'll ask you as you asked me. Have you ever read a Thor, Surfer encounter? Considering Surfer was on his board buzzing around Thor at blurring/blinding speed, it's safe to say you haven't.

*snickers* So that makes him going multiple light speeds eh? Uh huh, I guess you got me there. 🙄

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher

Who said you stated that Northstar's speed > Surfers? I was only pointing out that countering Surfers speed was more impressive than countering Northstar's.

Your implying I'm putting all the Canadian characters at a higher level then their not. Basically your using examples which had no relvance to what I was talking about. Once again you don't actually believe he was going anywhere near his top speed do you?

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher

The Iron-Man speed blitz counter scan was used to display Thor's reflexes.

and wasn't that impressive at all, but you were using it as an example as why his reflexes are superior to Sasquatch, when Walter has caught Northstar multiple times.

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher

I'll ask again. have you ever read a Gladiator, Thor fight? You don't have to respond, as I already know the answer.

I have, and this is coming from a guy that thought Northstar has normal reflexes *snicker*. Have you read Gladiator's other fights?

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher

And this makes the herald lv how?

Since Beta Ray Bill IS a hearld, and considering Tanaraq gave them a boost in power to be his agents and seeing as how well Wrecker did...yeah. Each member was braging about how they have power to destroy the planet.

Originally posted by Kenny 07
I was thinking, I can't remember exactly what happened. But didn't he use the hammer which has Odin magic, maybe he used the hammers magic instead of his own, and any Odin magic can create they're home or something like that. Just popped in my head.

If that makes sense.

He basically spun his hammer around and can't say we just have to wait and see what happens next.

Thanks. I missed a lot.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
If Hulk couldn't when Sasquatch was calm why would Thor with a bloodlusted Sasquatch?

Sasquatch? HELL NO! Tanaraq? No idea, he hasn't do anything that comparable.

*snickers* So Thor lets others beat him up in physical combat even when his life is threatened. Ooooooook. If Thor had his hammer in this fight I would give him 10/10 easily. However, this is physical fight and a fight that Walter can win..majority? doubt it, but a few..definetly.

With his hammer and using all his abilities HELL YEAH THOR CAN KILL HULK. Just using his fights? come on now.

*snickers* So that makes him going multiple light speeds eh? Uh huh, I guess you got me there. 🙄

Your implying I'm putting all the Canadian characters at a higher level then their not. Basically your using examples which had no relvance to what I was talking about. Once again you don't actually believe he was going anywhere near his top speed do you?

and wasn't that impressive at all, but you were using it as an example as why his reflexes are superior to Sasquatch, when Walter has caught Northstar multiple times.

I have, and this is coming from a guy that thought Northstar has normal reflexes *snicker*. Have you read Gladiator's other fights?

Since Beta Ray Bill IS a hearld, and considering Tanaraq gave them a boost in power to be his agents and seeing as how well Wrecker did...yeah. Each member was braging about how they have power to destroy the planet.

A few reasons. Thor's blood lusted. Thor's base strength is higher than Hulk's. Thor is a more skilled fighter than Hulk. To my knowledge, Hulk has never knocked a character into orbit with a single punch. This is not a comic.

Just making sure.

Yes. As I said. It's obvious by the way he easily dispatches of them in moments when he's angry and not holding back.

Walter really can't win. Walter is inferior in every category of this fight.

What do you mean come one now? He's already killed him.

At what point in my post did I claim Surfer was moving at multiples of light speed?

I'm not implying anything. Thor dealt with speed that Sasquatch couldn't comprehend. That was my point.

It's something I still doubt Sasquatch could do. As the scan you gave wasn't Northstar blitzing Sasy.

Thats what the scan said. 😐

So that's basically your own speculation? As Wrecker was always more powerful than the rest of his crew.

I better stop as I'm starting to get venom filled and I don't want that. Anyways to make it short, with the hammer Thor wins 10/10 no questions asked.

In a melee fight Thor wins the majority, but runs the risk of unleashing Tanaraq and that's why I'm giving Sasquatch a FEW wins as it's a very possible scenario.

I'll be calm in this response

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
A few reasons. Thor's blood lusted. Thor's base strength is higher than Hulk's. Thor is a more skilled fighter than Hulk. To my knowledge, Hulk has never knocked a character into orbit with a single punch. This is not a comic.

It was said Sasquatch base level is higher then Hulk's as well. If this wasn't a comic each blow from a class 100 character would send people into orbit. Sasquatch is no sloutch in combat as he was trained by the likes of Wolverine and Puck. Is Thor more skilled? Definetly, would Sasquatch not know what to do? Definetly not considering his track record.

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher

Just making sure.

I have stated it multiple times now. 😕

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher

Yes. As I said. It's obvious by the way he easily dispatches of them in moments when he's angry and not holding back .

If Sasquatch unleashes Tanaraq forget it. Normal Thor doesn't stand a chance.

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher

Walter really can't win. Walter is inferior in every category of this fight.

His stats can increase with each passing second so I wouldn't say that at all

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher

What do you mean come one now? He's already killed him.

King Thor, who even got his arm hacked off by Wolverine and when he lost his Odin Power Captain America was getting the better of him in hand to hand.

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher

At what point in my post did I claim Surfer was moving at multiples of light speed?

You were implying he was on his surfboard he was going so fast that it was some how close to his top speed. Far from it.

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher

I'm not implying anything. Thor dealt with speed that Sasquatch couldn't comprehend. That was my point.

Why? by Surfer who wasn't going anywhere near his top speed?

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher

It's something I still doubt Sasquatch could do. As the scan you gave wasn't Northstar blitzing Sasy.

This was already addressed and he was indeed trying to blitz him.

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher

Thats what the scan said. 😐

No it didn't

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher

So that's basically your own speculation? As Wrecker was always more powerful than the rest of his crew.

No it was the Crew ie. Piledriver and Bulldozer who said they felt like they could destroy the planet.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
I'll be calm in this response

It was said Sasquatch base level is higher then Hulk's as well. If this wasn't a comic each blow from a class 100 character would send people into orbit. Sasquatch is no sloutch in combat as he was trained by the likes of Wolverine and Puck. Is Thor more skilled? Definetly, would Sasquatch not know what to do? Definetly not considering his track record.

I have stated it multiple times now. 😕

If Sasquatch unleashes Tanaraq forget it. Normal Thor doesn't stand a chance.

His stats can increase with each passing second so I wouldn't say that at all

King Thor, who even got his arm hacked off by Wolverine and when he lost his Odin Power Captain America was getting the better of him in hand to hand.

You were implying he was on his surfboard he was going so fast that it was some how close to his top speed. Far from it.

Why? by Surfer who wasn't going anywhere near his top speed?

This was already addressed and he was indeed trying to blitz him.

No it didn't

No it was the Crew ie. Piledriver and Bulldozer who said they felt like they could destroy the planet.

Whats that supposed to intimidate me or something? 😕

By what 50 tons? Thor's lv of strength is planetary. Far surpassing Hulk, and Sasquatch's base lv of strength.

BTW. Thor while weakened, actually has sent someone into the void of space with a punch. I see no reason why he can't do the same here.

As I said. I was simply making sure.

Your right, however Sasquatch wont get that chance.

All it takes is a single moment.

See, you obviously didn't read this fight either. It was King Thor whom at the time lost possession of the Odin Power, and Mjolnir. Making him yet again his classic self. Wolverine's slash did nothing but cause Thor to grab hold of his arm. He lost his arm in his long battle with a few of the remaining characters.

Captain America did nothing but throw his shield at Thor while he was distracted, knocking him over. He was then incinerated along with his shield.

Um, no I didn't.

Where in my post did I even give the slightest hint that Surfer was reaching top speeds?

From my point of view, he wasn't.

Explain then what it said.

But they didn't. They never displayed any kind of herald lv power.

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
Whats that supposed to intimidate me or something? 😕

What? No, as I was getting venom filled with my responses and it was for me saying I would be calm as I was getting testy. Nothing towards you at all

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher

By what 50 tons? Thor's lv of strength is planetary. Far surpassing Hulk, and Sasquatch's base lv of strength.

*shrugs* We don't know, and I even said that pages ago too.

*scratches head* Why was I getting called bias, when half the stuff I already said ages ago?

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher

BTW. Thor while weakened, actually has sent someone into the void of space with a punch. I see no reason why he can't do the same here.

I have read the same issue myself, but like I said a really bloodlusted class 100 blow would send anyone into orbit if this wasn't in a comic. If this wasn't a comic, each blow from brutes would cause massive amounts of damage and with each blow send each other flying as their centre of gravity wouldn't generate more force then a class 100 blow.

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher

Your right, however Sasquatch wont get that chance.

Why not? Tanaraq has took over in seconds before.

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
All it takes is a single moment.

Same for Sasquatch turning..that's my point.

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher

See, you obviously didn't read this fight either. It was King Thor whom at the time lost possession of the Odin Power, and Mjolnir. Making him yet again his classic self. Wolverine's slash did nothing but cause Thor to grab hold of his arm. He lost his arm in his long battle with a few of the remaining characters.

Sorry wasn't making it clearer as I was saying he lost the Odin Power, the point was supposed to be a continuation with the point about when Thor fought Captain America without the power.

The Wolverine incident, sure I can believe it as where Wolverine slashed and where he grabbed his arm was different then were he lost his hand.

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher

Captain America did nothing but throw his shield at Thor while he was distracted, knocking him over. He was then incinerated along with his shield.

Yeah after Cap was standing over him threatening to behead him and stopped

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher

Where in my post did I even give the slightest hint that Surfer was reaching top speeds?

You said those speeds were something which Sasquatch couldn't comprehend and let's be serious that really wasn't that fast at all.

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher

From my point of view, he wasn't.

and you would be wrong as explained pages ago

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher

Explain then what it said.

*scratches his head* I did pages ago.

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher

But they didn't. They never displayed any kind of herald lv power.

Considering they only had the power for one issue I'm not shocked, but we know they had vast amounts of power and to say otherwise is faulty.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
What? No, as I was getting venom filled with my responses and it was for me saying I would be calm as I was getting testy. Nothing towards you at all

*shrugs* We don't know, and I even said that pages ago too.

*scratches head* Why was I getting called bias, when half the stuff I already said ages ago?

I have read the same issue myself, but like I said a really bloodlusted class 100 blow would send anyone into orbit if this wasn't in a comic. If this wasn't a comic, each blow from brutes would cause massive amounts of damage and with each blow send each other flying as their centre of gravity wouldn't generate more force then a class 100 blow.

Why not? Tanaraq has took over in seconds before.

Same for Sasquatch turning..that's my point.

Sorry wasn't making it clearer as I was saying he lost the Odin Power, the point was supposed to be a continuation with the point about when Thor fought Captain America without the power.

The Wolverine incident, sure I can believe it as where Wolverine slashed and where he grabbed his arm was different then were he lost his hand.

Yeah after Cap was standing over him threatening to behead him and stopped

You said those speeds were something which Sasquatch couldn't comprehend and let's be serious that really wasn't that fast at all.

and you would be wrong as explained pages ago

*scratches his head* I did pages ago.

Considering they only had the power for one issue I'm not shocked, but we know they had vast amounts of power and to say otherwise is faulty.

👆

I never called you biased Mungi. Although you are, not that it matters as well all are a tad bit biased.

Sure.

So your telling me from the start Sasquatch is going to become Tanaraq controlled? If so, he takes it 10/10.

This is what happened to Cap.

http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/?action=view&current=avengers_v3_063_13_rougher.jpg

After he cheapshotted him....

You see Surfer blazing that battle field as a blur. How this is not an indication of extreme speed is beyond me.

I guess.

I missed that....

So vast amounts of power = herald lv? 😕

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
I never called you biased Mungi. Although you are, not that it matters as well all are a tad bit biased.

Oh I'm admit I'm biased as I know the most of AF on this board and know what they can do and can't, but I'm not to the point I think they can take anyone. Here I think Thor does outclass Sasquatch, but Tanaraq is the wild card if he uses this he definetly will take wins. Will he use that card all the time? Doubtful

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher

So your telling me from the start Sasquatch is going to become Tanaraq controlled? If so, he takes it 10/10.

I would hope not, but in AF #23 Tanaraq took over Walter in seconds and that was before anyone knew about Tanaraq other then Snowbird who was out to kill him. Will he instantly change? *shrugs* that all depends on Walter

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher

This is what happened to Cap.

http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/?action=view&current=avengers_v3_063_13_rougher.jpg

Oh I know, and that's what SHOULD happen every time a class 100 brute fights a street level character.

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher

After he cheapshotted him....

Yeah, but even getting in that position in the first place is what irks me [shouldn't have happened]. As even a vibranium shield shattered against Sasquatch and he didn't even budge from the hit.

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher

You see Surfer blazing that battle field as a blur. How this is not an indication of extreme speed is beyond me.

Because even street level characters have done the blur affect and the shadow copy where it looks like their at multiple places at once, even Sasquatch has done that when he ran through a forest during AF #14-21 [Forget issue, it's somewhere in there]

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher

So vast amounts of power = herald lv? 😕

Considering the power they have before the upgrade and the comments after the upgrade and showings from Wrecker?..definetly.