Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlAnd if Darkseid prefers NOT to use them, then one couldn't logically deduce that every loss he's had was due to avatars.... Because avatars are something he ONLY uses as a last resort... Using avatars frequently goes against what he himself stated in that instance.
Becuz they are only a FRACTION of his near limitless omnipotent might. They can be defeated. That is why he prefers not to use them.
Bottom line,
There's never been an established Darkseid retcon, [other then the recent Supes/Bats issue] --- So anything else you're trying to say regarding retcons, is nothing but your own opinion at this point. 🙂
Originally posted by Galan007
And if Darkseid prefers NOT to use them, then one couldn't logically deduce that every loss he's had was due to avatars.... Because avatars are something he ONLY uses as a last resort... Using avatars frequently goes against what he himself stated in that instance.Bottom line,
There's never been an established Darkseid retcon, [other then the recent Supes/Bats issue] --- So anything else you're trying to say regarding retcons, is nothing but your own opinion at this point. 🙂
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Originally posted by Galan007
And if Darkseid prefers NOT to use them, then one couldn't logically deduce that every loss he's had was due to avatars.... Because avatars are something he ONLY uses as a last resort... Using avatars frequently goes against what he himself stated in that instance.Bottom line,
There's never been an established Darkseid retcon, [other then the recent Supes/Bats issue] --- So anything else you're trying to say regarding retcons, is nothing but your own opinion at this point. 🙂
couldn't one say the same of you since it's obvious that the reason he doesn't like to use avatars is becuz they can be defeated in battle. Bottom line, is that the writers left it up to interpretation. And since history is on my side, My interpretation would supercede yours. And since the story wasn't a retcon, what was it?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlits just ur opinion. ur looking at one thing he said and ignoring what he has said in losses. i think darkseid is cool to but he loses and submits to beings like superman sometimes.
Becuz they are only a FRACTION of his near limitless omnipotent might. They can be defeated. That is why he prefers not to use them. didn't you get that? 😉
u cant win them all against supes.
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Originally posted by Galan007👆
And if Darkseid prefers NOT to use them, then one couldn't logically deduce that every loss he's had was due to avatars.... Because avatars are something he ONLY uses as a last resort... Using avatars frequently goes against what he himself stated in that instance.Bottom line,
There's never been an established Darkseid retcon, [other then the recent Supes/Bats issue] --- So anything else you're trying to say regarding retcons, is nothing but your own opinion at this point. 🙂
Originally posted by quanchi112
its just ur opinion. ur looking at one thing he said and ignoring what he has said in losses. i think darkseid is cool to but he loses and submits to beings like superman sometimes.u cant win them all against supes.
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since when did your opinion matter in darkseid or thanos threads any more? they certainly hold no weight to me.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirldarkseid has admitted hes been defeated before. we cant assume the reason he lost was becuz it was an avatar. ds loses and admits he loses. he would say this is an avatar as he has admitted before when talking to characters.
couldn't one say the same of you since it's obvious that the reason he doesn't like to use avatars is becuz they can be defeated in battle. Bottom line, is that the writers left it up to interpretation. And since history is on my side, My interpretation would supercede yours. And since the story wasn't a retcon, what was it?
im glad ds has this built in power up now to make him respectable again. i want to forget the steps and his embarrassing losses but i cant.
darkseid is very cool imo.
if there was no darkseid there might not be a thanos.
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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlas u can see ur opinion holds little weight to some posters in here as well. u likie darkseid and want so badly to have all his losses retconned. its fine. u like him. i think ds is cool as well. but the evidence doesnt support that.
since when did your opinion matter in darkseid or thanos threads any more? they certainly hold no weight to me.
Originally posted by quanchi112
darkseid has admitted hes been defeated before. we cant assume the reason he lost was becuz it was an avatar. ds loses and admits he loses. he would say this is an avatar as he has admitted before when talking to characters.im glad ds has this built in power up now to make him respectable again. i want to forget the steps and his embarrassing losses but i cant.
darkseid is very cool imo.
if there was no darkseid there might not be a thanos.
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I want you to do me a favor and contribute to the discussion at hand, or wait until someone addresses one of your " points". right now you aren't doing either. Your spouting the same shit you been spouting since you got here. it's old. we are having an interpretive discussion. Now add to what we are talking about if you are going to respond.
Originally posted by Galan007
It was an old story telling us that DS can manifest avatars, but prefers not to, and only does so as a last resort.Retcon?
Not so much. 🙂
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirla retcon has to specifically address a certain story. u cant take something ds says when we dont evenknow hes telling the truth or not and pass it as fact, ney i say. darkseid addressed no losses. it retconned nothing. only losses that were retconnned were addresses specifically in a later comic. ur reaching on this one.
I want you to do me a favor and contribute to the discussion at hand, or wait until someone addresses one of your " points". right now you aren't doing either. Your spouting the same shit you been spouting since you got here. it's old. we are having an interpretive discussion. Now add to what we are talking about if you are going to respond.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
we never knew he could do it before did we? And it specifically tells us that he prefers not to use them BECUZ they can be defeated on the physical plain. Don't leave that out. please. it seems you would be skipping the reason why he prefers not to use them.
Just because the avatars can be defeated does not mean that Darkseid cannot be.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirldarkseid also admitted to being defeated by superman in apokolips now. he said he was humiliated and made no mention of an avatar. he would have if that were the case. ds lost badly anfd supes could have ran apokolips if he wanted to.
we never knew he could do it before did we? And it specifically tells us that he prefers not to use them BECUZ they can be defeated on the physical plain. Don't leave that out. please. it seems you would be skipping the reason why he prefers not to use them.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlThat is a moot point.... You're not seeing what I'm talking about apparently.
we never knew he could do it before did we? And it specifically tells us that he prefers not to use them BECUZ they can be defeated on the physical plain. Don't leave that out. please. it seems you would be skipping the reason why he prefers not to use them.
Darky specifically mentioned that he DOES NOT like to use avatars unless he HAS to.... So once again, using avatars frequently, [as you're trying to say], contradicts the very statement he made.
Originally posted by Galan007yes. and also the fact that ds wasnt an avatar when he got beat by superman and thrown into the source wall and in apokolips now. was the real deal and he got beat down physically. proves he can be hurt and badly by physical might.
That is a moot point.... You're not seeing what I'm talking about apparently.Darky specifically mentioned that he DOES NOT like to use avatars unless he HAS to.... So once again, using avatars frequently, [as you're trying to say], contradicts the very statement he made.