Originally posted by CosmicSurferSize means nothing to the demogorge. Sure it makes the destroyer more formdiable but doesnt win the fight against demogorge.
What's demogorge going to do to a 2000 ft tall Destroyer? He can't absorb it. It's geometrically impossible. And it took the entire celestial host to melt it into slag.
Originally posted by CosmicSurfer
What's demogorge going to do to a 2000 ft tall Destroyer? He can't absorb it. It's geometrically impossible. And it took the entire celestial host to melt it into slag.
The 2000 ft. destroyer not only had the energies of Asgard, but was imbued with the power of the other skyfathers as well, such as Zeus and some others. Therefore the destroyer in this scenerio woulnd't be as powerful as the one that fought the celestials.
Second point is that Demogorge is physically impervious. Legions of gods have tried to attack it before to no avail. The only reason Thor was able to temporarily control it was by being absorbed by it and using his incredible willpower to temporarily take control of him, and even then it was only temporary - given enough time he would have been absorbed. Had Atum not released Thor he would have been dead.
Demogorge took on a group of eight Death Gods from various pantheons (including Hela; Pluto; Seth and strangely enough non-Death God Mephisto) and all of them combined didn't even prove to be the slightest match for him, the only thing they could do was try and flee, and even then, most of them got consumed.
If you recall the fight between Seth and Odin, it was no easy battle for Odin at all. Beings on that level are still a joke to Demogorge.
Originally posted by Kutulu
[B]The 2000 ft. destroyer not only had the energies of Asgard, but was imbued with the power of the other skyfathers as well, such as Zeus and some others. Therefore the destroyer in this scenerio woulnd't be as powerful as the one that fought the celestials.
If your using standard powered Destroyer, yes it will lose. But the one that fought the celestials would stomp a mudhole on the Demogorge. Literally.
Second point is that Demogorge is physically impervious. Legions of gods have tried to attack it before to no avail. The only reason Thor was able to temporarily control it was by being absorbed by it and using his incredible willpower to temporarily take control of him, and even then it was only temporary - given enough time he would have been absorbed. Had Atum not released Thor he would have been dead.
Apollo caused it harm with his weapon. What you left out about Thor being absorbed was that he too was capable of causing the Demogorge physical harm from the inside out. It wasn't just willpower alone. He's far from impervious.
Demogorge took on a group of eight Death Gods from various pantheons (including Hela; Pluto; Seth and strangely enough non-Death God Mephisto) and all of them combined didn't even prove to be the slightest match for him, the only thing they could do was try and flee, and even then, most of them got consumed.
Death Gods are second only to Skyfathers. I'm not sure that even the Elder Gods were more powerful than Odin and his ilk. There's no proof of it.
If you recall the fight between Seth and Odin, it was no easy battle for Odin at all. Beings on that level are still a joke to Demogorge.
I'm going to have to look into this in the Odin respect thread.
Originally posted by Kutuludemogorge is such a beast.
The 2000 ft. destroyer not only had the energies of Asgard, but was imbued with the power of the other skyfathers as well, such as Zeus and some others. Therefore the destroyer in this scenerio woulnd't be as powerful as the one that fought the celestials.Second point is that Demogorge is physically impervious. Legions of gods have tried to attack it before to no avail. The only reason Thor was able to temporarily control it was by being absorbed by it and using his incredible willpower to temporarily take control of him, and even then it was only temporary - given enough time he would have been absorbed. Had Atum not released Thor he would have been dead.
Demogorge took on a group of eight Death Gods from various pantheons (including Hela; Pluto; Seth and strangely enough non-Death God Mephisto) and all of them combined didn't even prove to be the slightest match for him, the only thing they could do was try and flee, and even then, most of them got consumed.
If you recall the fight between Seth and Odin, it was no easy battle for Odin at all. Beings on that level are still a joke to Demogorge.
Originally posted by Kutulu
The 2000 ft. destroyer not only had the energies of Asgard, but was imbued with the power of the other skyfathers as well, such as Zeus and some others. Therefore the destroyer in this scenerio woulnd't be as powerful as the one that fought the celestials.Second point is that Demogorge is physically impervious. Legions of gods have tried to attack it before to no avail. The only reason Thor was able to temporarily control it was by being absorbed by it and using his incredible willpower to temporarily take control of him, and even then it was only temporary - given enough time he would have been absorbed. Had Atum not released Thor he would have been dead.
Demogorge took on a group of eight Death Gods from various pantheons (including Hela; Pluto; Seth and strangely enough non-Death God Mephisto) and all of them combined didn't even prove to be the slightest match for him, the only thing they could do was try and flee, and even then, most of them got consumed.
If you recall the fight between Seth and Odin, it was no easy battle for Odin at all. Beings on that level are still a joke to Demogorge.
Did you try to place the Demogorge on the same level as the fourth Celestial host 😕 if you didn't then please correct me
Originally posted by Utrigita
Did you try to place the Demogorge on the same level as the fourth Celestial host 😕 if you didn't then please correct me
I never claimed Demogorge is at the same level as the Celestial host. I just pointed out how he would stomp out Odin. I said that the 2000 foot tall Destroyer armor is how big it got when it had the full energies of at least 3 skyfathers feeding into it. In this fight it doesn't have that amount of energy in it.
Demogorge is basically made to eat gods. All he has to do is grab Odin with his hand to start transferring Odin's power to his own, then it's over. He stomped out almost every Elder god on his own. C'thon and Set barely escaped.
We saw how much trouble Seth (the Death god, not to be confused with Set, the elder god) gave Odin, look at the comparison between when Seth fought Odin versus when Seth fought Demogorge: Seth couldn't even run away in time in the Demogorge fight, wheras in the Odin fight, Odin had to fight him for several panels and it was a close battle, even though Odin clearly had the upper hand.
There is a clear difference in power levels.
Originally posted by Kutulu
I never claimed Demogorge is at the same level as the Celestial host. I just pointed out how he would stomp out Odin. I said that the 2000 foot tall Destroyer armor is how big it got when it had the full energies of at least 3 skyfathers feeding into it. In this fight it doesn't have that amount of energy in it.Demogorge is basically made to eat gods. All he has to do is grab Odin with his hand to start transferring Odin's power to his own, then it's over. He stomped out almost every Elder god on his own. C'thon and Set barely escaped.
We saw how much trouble Seth (the Death god, not to be confused with Set, the elder god) gave Odin, look at the comparison between when Seth fought Odin versus when Seth fought Demogorge: Seth couldn't even run away in time in the Demogorge fight, wheras in the Odin fight, Odin had to fight him for several panels and it was a close battle, even though Odin clearly had the upper hand.
There is a clear difference in power levels.
Okay just wanted to clearify that you didn't try to compare a elder god with a Celestial.
And It wasn't all the skyfathers it was all of Asgard and those was the only one, No zeus ore Vishnu but its correct that all the skyfathers laid a enchancment on the armor.
I just wanted to clarify that you wasn't trying to say that the 2000 ft Destroyer would lose to Demogorge.
Els we agree 100% 🙂
Originally posted by Utrigita
And It wasn't all the skyfathers it was all of Asgard and those was the only one, No zeus ore Vishnu but its correct that all the skyfathers laid a enchancment on the armor.
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Odin, Vishnu, and Zeus arrive to beat Arishem.They attack him... and are unable to even get his attention.
So... they bow down. They also get the Destroyer, and bestow their might into him (the Skyfathers).
So Confrontation. The Destroyer, and Uni-Mind (with a bunch of Eternals), vs the Celestials.
Two Celestials fire and one shot the Uni-Mind.
Destroyer lops of one of their arms, with the Odin Sword.
It grows back, and a Celestial stops his full destroyer beam with one hand.
A profile on Seth, who was easily defeated along with all of the other Death gods by Demogorge (along with Mephisto, who while he isn't a Death God, is still extremely powerful):
http://www.leaderslair.com/marvelvillains/seth.html
Originally posted by Kutulu
As I said they all lay there enchantments in it, but when the Fourth Celestial host arrived only Odin animated along with all that was present in asgard at that time, and Zeus and Vishnu wasn't present else Thor wouldn't have seaked Zeus help after the destroyer was defeated and Odin killed along with the asgardians to get the help to resurrect him. How could Zeus if he helped empower it?
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b...surrectOdin.jpg
I say Again: The 2000ft Destroyer was empowered by Odin and all the asgardians with the exception of thor and this destroyer would stomp Demogorge but just odin inside then he gets defeated.
Originally posted by Kutulu
A profile on Seth, who was easily defeated along with all of the other Death gods by Demogorge (along with Mephisto, who while he isn't a Death God, is still extremely powerful):
http://www.leaderslair.com/marvelvillains/seth.html
Mephisto is extremely powerful inside his own realm but his powerlevels fall when he leaves his dimension.
Good profile on Atum / Demogorge:
http://www.immortalthor.net/bio-atumthegodeater.html
Originally posted by Utrigita
As I said they all lay there enchantments in it, but when the Fourth Celestial host arrived only Odin animated along with all that was present in asgard at that time, and Zeus and Vishnu wasn't present else Thor wouldn't have seaked Zeus help after the destroyer was defeated and Odin killed along with the asgardians to get the help to resurrect him. How could Zeus if he helped empower it?http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b...surrectOdin.jpg
I say Again: The 2000ft Destroyer was empowered by Odin and all the asgardians with the exception of thor and this destroyer would stomp Demogorge but just odin inside then he gets defeated.
It says the following, and I quote: "Upon it's completion, Odin takes the armor to his fellow sky-lords, each of whom bestows on it a fraction of their godly might - making it virtually all powerful".
http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor30017bh8.jpg
Note it says his fellow sky lords, implying that it's not just the two others that came with him to meet the Celestials.
Originally posted by Kutulu
It says the following, and I quote: "[b]Upon it's completion, Odin takes the armor to his fellow sky-lords, each of whom bestows on it a fraction of their godly might - making it virtually all powerful".http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor30017bh8.jpg
Note it says his fellow sky lords, implying that it's not just the two others that came with him to meet the Celestials. [/B]
How the hell does that divert from what I said???
"As I said they all lay there enchantments in it" the entire earthly pantheon did bestow a fraction of there might into it.
And yet it doesn't change the fact that the Destroyer that fought the celestials was animated by ODIN and the ASGARDIANS. No other Pantheon.
I would like to use the site you refered to yourself
Originally posted by Utrigita
How the hell does that divert from what I said???[b]"As I said they all lay there enchantments in it"
the entire earthly pantheon did bestow a fraction of there might into it.And yet it doesn't change the fact that the Destroyer that fought the celestials was animated by ODIN and the ASGARDIANS. No other Pantheon.
I would like to use the site you refered to yourself
Ok that was my bad, but this scenario still is not Destroyer animated by all of Asgard, and Odin still won't be infusing it with all of his energy either, because if he did that he would be comatose and vulnerable to attack.
Originally posted by Kutulu
Ok that was my bad, but this scenario still is not Destroyer animated by all of Asgard, and Odin still won't be infusing it with all of his energy either, because if he did that he would be comatose and vulnerable to attack.
Okay thanks then there are no further needs for debate, because we both agree that Demogorge would stomp Odin in the destroyer.
What are you thoughts if we said the one that fought the Celestials???
