Demogorge vs. Destroyer/Odin

The Destroyer that fought the celestials would have a much better shot at winning, but it depends on who was animating it. Asgard, or all the skyfathers?

I still think Demogorge wins. and for those who are trying to claim that the Elder Gods are not powerful than Odin........GTFO. Almost all the Elder Gods outclass skyfathers. Cyttorak is elder god level, the Vishanti are elder god level, Shuma-Gorath, Cthon, Set, etc.

All of whom are exceedingly powerful. And Demogorge killed almost all the Elder Gods, save those who fled from him. Demogorge is designed to kill gods and demons.

But the difference in power between the celestials and Elder Gods is most pronounced inside their own realms. Shuma-Gorath for example, is equal to Eternity in his realm. Cyttorak's crimson cosmos is totally under his control.

So outside their realms, The Celestials can beat Elder Gods, albeit in mass. Inside their own realms? I don't think the entire Celestial host can win.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
The Destroyer that fought the celestials would have a much better shot at winning, but it depends on who was animating it. Asgard, or all the skyfathers?

I still think Demogorge wins. and for those who are trying to claim that the Elder Gods are not powerful than Odin........GTFO. Almost all the Elder Gods outclass skyfathers. Cyttorak is elder god level, the Vishanti are elder god level, Shuma-Gorath, Cthon, Set, etc.

All of whom are exceedingly powerful. And Demogorge killed almost all the Elder Gods, save those who fled from him. Demogorge is designed to kill gods and demons.

But the difference in power between the celestials and Elder Gods is most pronounced inside their own realms. Shuma-Gorath for example, is equal to Eternity in his realm. Cyttorak's crimson cosmos is totally under his control.

So outside their realms, The Celestials can beat Elder Gods, albeit in mass. Inside their own realms? I don't think the entire Celestial host can win.

I would say that the Destroyer that fought the Celestials would have no problems with Demogorge.

Isn't the Vishanti above elder god Level???

But he didn't defeat them in there own realm they ran from him but certainly not from there own realms. Where his chances of defeating them should according to you zero.

Originally posted by Utrigita
I would say that the Destroyer that fought the Celestials would have no problems with Demogorge.

Isn't the Vishanti above elder god Level???

But he didn't defeat them in there own realm they ran from him but certainly not from there own realms. Where his chances of defeating them should according to you zero.

Maybe I'm lowrating the Destroyer. srug

No, the Vishanti are Elder God level.

The Elder gods who escaped Demogorge created their realms over millions (billions? not sure) of years, as a protection against Demogorge and others coming after them. Shuma is the exception, since he was sealed up long before Demogorge's birth.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Maybe I'm lowrating the Destroyer. srug

No, the Vishanti are Elder God level.

The Elder gods who escaped Demogorge created their realms over millions (billions? not sure) of years, [b]as a protection against Demogorge and others coming after them. Shuma is the exception, since he was sealed up long before Demogorge's birth. [/B]

I think you are...

And you think he would still win if he entered one of there realms.

And I think you should read up on Vishanti

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Vishanti

Nobody knows what Cyttorak really is. He is classified as a high end mystical deity. Not an elder god, demon or a god.

Standard Destroyer is bestowed with a fraction of power from every earth skyfather. I thought this was obvious according to all the websites.

Even if we use standard Destroyer empowered by Odin armed with the Odin sword, how can Demogorge win? Can he regenerate having his limbs or head hacked off.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
The Destroyer that fought the celestials would have a much better shot at winning, but it depends on who was animating it. Asgard, or all the skyfathers?

I still think Demogorge wins. and for those who are trying to claim that the Elder Gods are not powerful than Odin........GTFO. Almost all the Elder Gods outclass skyfathers. Cyttorak is elder god level, the Vishanti are elder god level, Shuma-Gorath, Cthon, Set, etc.

All of whom are exceedingly powerful. And Demogorge killed almost all the Elder Gods, save those who fled from him. Demogorge is designed to kill gods and demons.

But the difference in power between the celestials and Elder Gods is most pronounced inside their own realms. Shuma-Gorath for example, is equal to Eternity in his realm. Cyttorak's crimson cosmos is totally under his control.

So outside their realms, The Celestials can beat Elder Gods, albeit in mass. Inside their own realms? I don't think the entire Celestial host can win.

Celestials>Demogorge ✅

Sounds like a thread 😄

Originally posted by Utrigita
I would say that the Destroyer that fought the Celestials would have no problems with Demogorge.

[b]Isn't the Vishanti above elder god Level???

But he didn't defeat them in there own realm they ran from him but certainly not from there own realms. Where his chances of defeating them should according to you zero. [/B]

The individual entities (Hoggoth, Agamotto, and Oshtur) may be around the same level, but the Vishanti as a whole? Are above others such as Set, Chthon, Cytorrak, etc.

celestials are greater than demogorge.

Originally posted by Ethereal
The individual entities (Hoggoth, Agamotto, and Oshtur) may be around the same level, but the Vishanti as a whole? Are above others such as Set, Chthon, Cytorrak, etc.

No I believe they are above a elder god.

And why are Cyttorak called a elder god??? The only ones that escaped the Demogorge was Set and Chthon.

Originally posted by Utrigita
I would say that the Destroyer that fought the Celestials would have no problems with Demogorge.

Isn't the Vishanti above elder god Level???

But he didn't defeat them in there own realm they ran from him but certainly not from there own realms. Where his chances of defeating them should according to you zero.

I think Trick's confused. There are only about four to five elder gods left: Gaea, Chthon, Set, Demogorge, and possibly Demiurge if he's still around. While Shuma Gorath is not, and I'll repeat this, not an elder god. Shuma Gorath comes from another universe, was its sorcceror supreme before taking over, and has been referred to as a Lord of Chaos. Each Vishanti are above the elder gods, see Agamotto's fight dimension wrecking fight with Galactus.

TricksterPriest
But the difference in power between the celestials and Elder Gods is most pronounced inside their own realms. Shuma-Gorath for example, is equal to Eternity in his realm. Cyttorak's crimson cosmos is totally under his control.

Shuma Gorath and Cyttorak aren't elder gods; they're other dimension beings like Dormammu, Tiboro, Dweller in Darkness, Nightmare, Hoggoth, Ikkor, Watomb, Seraphim, the Trions, etc. I'd even wager that Odin can beat Cyttorak. All Cyttorak is is hype. Shuma Gorath, on the other hand, outlcasses mystic mentioned so far except for the combined Vishanti. Strange had to burn away most of SG's power because just his presence in 616 would destroy galaxies.

The totem looks like this IMO:

Shuma Gorath, Vishanti
Agamotto, Hoggoth, Oshtur
Demogorge, Cube Beings
Elder gods, Octocense
Skyfathers
Hell lords

Against non mystics:

High end abstracts
Shuma Gorath, Vishanti, Tiamut
Exitar, TOAA Celestial
Galactus, most Celestials, Agamotto, Hoggoth, Oshtur
Demogorge, Cube Beings
Elder gods, members of the Octessence
Skyfathers
Hell lords

By the way, individuals in each classes are roughly equally. Power levels between classes vary.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
I think Trick's confused. There are only about four to five elder gods left: Gaea, Chthon, Set, Demogorge, and possibly Demiurge if he's still around. While Shuma Gorath is not, and I'll repeat this, not an elder god. Shuma Gorath comes from another universe, was its sorcceror supreme before taking over, and has been referred to as a Lord of Chaos. Each Vishanti are above the elder gods, see Agamotto's fight dimension wrecking fight with Galactus.

Shuma Gorath and Cyttorak aren't elder gods; they're other dimension beings like Dormammu, Tiboro, Dweller in Darkness, Nightmare, Hoggoth, Ikkor, Watomb, Seraphim, the Trions, etc. I'd even wager that Odin can beat Cyttorak. All Cyttorak is is hype. Shuma Gorath, on the other hand, outlcasses mystic mentioned so far except for the combined Vishanti. Strange had to burn away most of SG's power because just his presence in 616 would destroy galaxies.

The totem looks like this IMO:

Shuma Gorath, Vishanti
Agamotto, Hoggoth, Oshtur
Demogorge, Cube Beings
Elder gods, Octocense
Skyfathers
Hell lords

Against non mystics:

High end abstracts
Shuma Gorath, Vishanti, Tiamut
Exitar, TOAA Celestial
Galactus, most Celestials, Agamotto, Hoggoth, Oshtur
Demogorge, Cube Beings
Elder gods, members of the Octessence
Skyfathers
Hell lords

By the way, individuals in each classes are roughly equally. Power levels between classes vary.

I almost agree I would put Galactus at the level of Exitar Tiamut and TOAA in a one on one fight I would say depending on his powerlevels he would win such a fight, and I wouldn't put a Celestial on the same level as the combined Vishanti els Agreed.

So I would change it to

High end abstracts
Shuma Gorath, Vishanti,
Tiamut, Exitar, TOAA Celestial, Galactus
most Celestials, Agamotto, Hoggoth, Oshtur
Demogorge, Cube Beings
Elder gods, members of the Octessence
Skyfathers
Hell lords

els 👆

Originally posted by Utrigita
I almost agree I would put Galactus at the level of Exitar Tiamut and TOAA in a one on one fight I would say depending on his powerlevels he would win such a fight, and I wouldn't put a Celestial on the same level as the combined Vishanti els Agreed.

So I would change it to

High end abstracts
Shuma Gorath, Vishanti,
Tiamut, Exitar, TOAA Celestial, Galactus
most Celestials, Agamotto, Hoggoth, Oshtur
Demogorge, Cube Beings
Elder gods, members of the Octessence
Skyfathers
Hell lords

els 👆

Looks right. Galactus fluctuates. But Tiamut I'm not sure. In Eternals books, fear came over Galactus when Tiamut woke and it took a Celestial host to beat him. Still Exitar, TOAA Celestial, and a high end Galactus are probably his equal in power.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Looks right. Galactus fluctuates. But Tiamut I'm not sure. In Eternals books, fear came over Galactus when Tiamut woke and it took a Celestial host to beat him. Still Exitar, TOAA Celestial, and a high end Galactus are probably his equal in power.

It just my thoughts that Galactus has faced more serious threats then Tiamut without showing fear like the IG and the Heart of The Infinite etc. Actually a Celestial Host didn't defeat him they choosed to use the weapon against him.

I would agree that Exitar is his equal and TOAA and Galactus is possibly hissuprior Galactus of cause depends on his powerlevel.

Originally posted by Utrigita
It just my thoughts that Galactus has faced more serious threats then Tiamut without showing fear like the IG and the Heart of The Infinite etc. Actually a Celestial Host didn't defeat him they choosed to use the weapon against him.

I would agree that Exitar is his equal and TOAA and Galactus is possibly hissuprior Galactus of cause depends on his powerlevel.

^^2nd Celestial Host used "The Weapon". 12 "Eyes" made him realized his crime. Tiamut, the Dreaming Celestial is back. Bigger and Badder than ever. According to Eternals #6 and Thena, "he's the most dangerous thing on Earth"

😄

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing

Against non mystics:

High end abstracts
Shuma Gorath, Vishanti, Tiamut
Exitar, TOAA Celestial
Galactus, most Celestials, Agamotto, Hoggoth, Oshtur
Demogorge, Cube Beings
Elder gods, members of the Octessence
Skyfathers
Hell lords

also would you put hell lords and herald level in the same category?

also LOL at people saying destroyer wins because he is 2000ft 😂
wouldnt you think demogorge can change his size?

who ever wins i dont think its a stomp.

What a fight!

I'll go with Demogorge.

Atun first form is more powerful than Vishnu, Zues, and Odin combined, his second had the Godhead concil peeing in there pants. Atum/Demogorge purpose is to eat Gods, Destroyer would be the can and the godly energies would be the main course. Demogorgwe all the way.

i really dont know who wins here.
although if demogorge can suck odin out of the armor he wins.

the destroyer armor can be destroyed though