Originally posted by UniOmni
Look at it like this Avy.It's not mere heat vision, and it likely trumps the OE in destructive power.
Likely doesn't cut it ol' chum.
I for certain know that you wouldn't accept a "likely" cause on something like this.
Definitely wouldn't mind seeing a comparison of the 2 attacks by experts on both characters.
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
He knocked him out, with a non physical (in comparison) attack...
Not the same thing.That's like saying X stopped Juggy.
So sonics>Godblast?
Had the ground not cracked..Juggy would have kept walking to Thor.
Sonics are a very physical attack since they attack the immune system. Cement is also quite physical.
The Juggernaut does have certain vulnerabilities. He can be affected by mystical forces of sufficient strength. Without his helmet and/or skullcap, both constructed of an unknown mystical metal, he is vulnerable to psionic attacks against his mind. Nimrod, a robot from the future of an alternate Earth, successfully attacked the Juggernaut's mind and nervous system with advanced weaponry producing tight-beam high-frequency sound waves and a synapse dislocate that jammed his neural impulses.
This is from Marvel.com. Not sure how kosher this is because it's basically saying that Juggs is vulnerable to mystical forces...yet the GB did no damage to him. However, sonics did stop Juggs.
Interesting.
Originally posted by AvlonJuggernaut was stopped, and was leaning backwards before the ground broke.
So sonics>Godblast?Had the ground not cracked..Juggy would have kept walking to Thor.
Sonics are a very physical attack since they attack the immune system. Cement is also quite physical.
This is from Marvel.com. Not sure how kosher this is because it's basically saying that Juggs is vulnerable to mystical forces...yet the GB did no damage to him. However, sonics did stop Juggs.
Interesting.
The rest, well...
It says right there he attacked his mind, Thor attacked the outer body.
It's not comparable in the slightest...
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Juggernaut was stopped, and was leaning backwards before the ground broke.
We can go back and forth on the semantics all day, but the simple truth is the GB did not damage Juggy in any way. Stopped would have been KO'd, paralyzed, or not being able to resist it at all..and and stated...cement stopped him for quite a while...much longer than the blast did actually.
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
The rest, well...
It says right there he attacked his mind, Thor attacked the outer body.
It's not comparable in the slightest...
And nervous system since it wasn't a mental attack. It was no less physical than the energy that hit juggs...but it did it's damaged and actually managed to stop him AND hurt him.
Originally posted by AvlonUsually when we talk stopped with Juggernaut, we talk about someone stopping his running, which Thor did.
We can go back and forth on the semantics all day, but the simple truth is the GB did not damage Juggy in any way. Stopped would have been KO'd, paralyzed, or not being able to resist it at all..and and stated...cement stopped him for quite a while...much longer than the blast did actually.
Originally posted by AvlonDid Thor attack the nervous system?
And nervous system since it wasn't a mental attack. It was no less physical than the energy that hit juggs...but it did it's damaged and actually managed to stop him AND hurt him.
Juggy's been hurt a lot... by things that attack his mind...
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Maybe, but he's always caught Surfer when Surfer's wizzing around him.
Also, he can release energy.What did you disprove again?
That's nice.
Do you even read anything involving Galactus?
Aegis brought Galactus down with a cheapshot to the nogging, which Surfer never took.Surfer in fact, only got hit a couple times, and Galactus stood and fought.
Hell, are you trying to compare Surfer to Galactus?
Galactus has one-shotted Surfer on at least 4 different occasions.Surfer channeled the energies of the crunch... I don't know what you're talking about.
Apparently, Superman is as powerful as two Galactus level beings... A+ logic.
If you actually want to know something about Galactus, you can go read my thread, or Darkcrawler's.
Superman isn't putting down Galactus.
I never said that Superman would bring down Galactus. I implied that Superman one million will.
Also, Galactus said himself that channeling the crunch would kill him the same way it did the Surfer. So what does that say about his durability?
I'm just going by facts.
Originally posted by Utrigita
The way I normally see the incident is like this:In the early days of Marvel Comics, the gods of Asgard were the most powerful beings in the Universe, but as time, writers, and story-lines progressed, the power of the cosmic beings of the Marvel Universe began to eclipse that of Odin and his children. This is why Thor's attacks early on in Thor #160-#161 hurt Galactus, when today the World Devourer would simply ignore them.
This is of cause my opinion on the matter. Also one should note that Galactu has shown weakness (varying) to magic and the God Blast if I remember correctly is magical in nature.Unless of cause the God Blast out levels a Super Nova Explosion 🙄
Galactus for the win. Also Superman has imp blood but he never showed that he possessed anything that pointed towards him having those powers that we are normally associating with a imp.
Actually, he held a galaxy together with TK, and punched through time when severely weakened, and almost dying.
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Usually when we talk stopped with Juggernaut, we talk about someone stopping his running, which Thor did.
Something that cement did, and for a longer period of time.
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Did Thor attack the nervous system?Juggy's been hurt a lot... by things that attack his mind...
So the sonics didn't penetrate through Juggs to get to said nervous system? They just "appeared" there?
Both the GB and sonics are energy.
Originally posted by Sirius77
Actually, he held a galaxy together with TK, and punched through time when severely weakened, and almost dying.
He held the Galaxy with force vision and help from a gorilla, and punched through time with the aid of tech.
It's not like he threw out a haymaker and hit 1960.
Tech created a hardened manifestation of time that he then punched through.
Originally posted by Sirius77Ya, and it doesn't take a genius, to find out Superman in this thread, means Superman 1 mill.
I never said that Superman would bring down Galactus. I implied that Superman one million will.Also, Galactus said himself that channeling the crunch would kill him the same way it did the Surfer. So what does that say about his durability?
I'm just going by facts.
Galactus said he couldn't channel it for long. Which doesn't say how long he could do it, and hell, we don't even know what Galactus could do with it.
Plus... so irrelevant, it's not even funny.
Originally posted by AvlonThat's nice...
Something that cement did, and for a longer period of time.So the sonics didn't penetrate through Juggs to get to said nervous system? They just "appeared" there?
Both the GB and sonics are energy.
Not, like this:
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Because the latter, is when Juggernaut is unstoppable...
So, you're essentially comparing sound to a blast?
I don't really know if I can say much more that that... 😐
You know, solar energy is energy as well. Let's compare that to a godblast too.