Could Sidious see the future?

Started by Darth Subjekt5 pages

exactly, they're similar, not identical. And you have to agree that Anakin had the harder life since birth.

Hmm, I am unsure if I would go that far, but he definately had a hard life, queeq is just missing a lot of points.

Luke life didn't get difficult until he became in contact with OB1. Anakin was born into slavery for Christ's sake. Thats just the tip of the iceberg...

Anakin had a loving mother. He could build stuff, he didn't look too troubled to me.

Luke had an annoying Uncle who, as turned out, lied to him all his young life about his family.

In the end, Anakin's story starts in AOTC, Luke in ANH. Compare from there on.

So because he had a mom and was good at building stuff, that negates him being a slave and having a shitty life? Luke's aunt and uncle were loving, he didn't seem to have too shabby of a life. And you cant say "start from AOTC," those years he spent as a slave were the years that mold you into the person you are.

So in the end, Anakin's life starts in TPM and is far from ideal...

So what did we see about Anakin's slave life that was so terrible. We see him doing what he loves most: building things, we see him having a loving mother, he has friends to play with and he is making his very own pod racer in the backyard.... Honestly, Anakin's slave life didn't look too terrible to me.

He made have had 'friends' but they seemed to ridicule him and I have to say, I agree with sibjekt on this.

Luke's uncle and aunt seemed pretty loving, Luke was just whiny.

we see about 30 minutes of his slave life from PG perspective. There were slaves in the old days that got to live in the house and cook and clean...they had other slaves or "friends" to talk to...are to take that they didn't have it so bad compared to the ones that were free? Come on man, you know better than that. He was so well treated that he had a tracking device implanted in him that would blow him up if he left...he really had a GREAT childhood.

And Luke had it real bad...not being allowed to go to Toshi Station to get some power converters when he had...*gasp*...chores to do. Painful.

So he has a tracking device. I didn't see Anakin SUFFER very much. Luke neither, I agree, but he clearly disliked his life on Tatooine. I didn't see Anakin disliking his life very much, I didn't SEE hardship... What was the point of slavery there? So we add our own knowledgde of slavery and imagine how that much have been for Anakin? I saw no hard labour, no whipping, no slave ships etc...

Why would he suffer when we saw him?

1) He just found someone who would enter him into a podrace, finally a sponsor.

2) He met an 'angel' in the form of Natalie Portman (sweet)

3) Learned for himself he was helping a Jedi

I would be pretty happy too.

And he had all the freedom to interact and do all these things. Why would he see the suffering? Well, to show how much he wanted people not to be in his position.

Now I am wondering, since Anakin was such an annoying brat all of a sudden in AOTC, if young Anakin wasn't just a spoilt little sh!t.

No, he just happened to be there when Natalie and QGJ was, and the podrace, he needed sponsorship and approval from his owner.

I meant before that: single child, a mother that adores him, praises him into high heaven, he gets to build a podracer etc. etc.

What else would his mother do?

They are both slaves, she is not going to neglect him, she is all he's got, she was being a mother.

A podracer that Watto undoubtedly allowed him to build and probably helped, he probably sponsored Anakin first and when crashed, he figured he sucked.

Again: I don't really SEE Anakin suffer... at all!

Luke's ordeal was much clearer: grumpy uncle, ties him down, things are not discussed proerly (like Luke's father)....

When do we see Luke suffer?? Oh no, he can't go to the city place (name forgotten Mos Eisley??), thats a shame, a crying shame. I couldn't do anything earlier, I had to dig a ditch, I'm not suffering, family comes first.

If anything, Anakin's ordeal was clearer to me.

I didn't say Luke suffered... I said his ordeal was clearer.

Anakin had a great childhood from what we saw. So why did he turn into such an arrogant little brat?

What was his ordeal?

Great childhood? He had less then Luke.

I say he turned into what he did because after years of being enslaved, then suddenly in a flash he is trained as a Jedi getting anything he wants? He went from one extreme to another.

Less than Luke? They pretty much did the same thing. Luke flew his T-16, Anakin a podracer. Luke had to fix condensors, Anakin anything that came round at Watto's, Luke had a grumpy uncle, Anakin a grumpy owner, Luke had a sweet aunt, Anakin had a sweet mother, Luke couldn't go to follow his dream, Anakin could.

Luke did follow his dream, and got more out of it, he could have gone whever he wanted if he didn't care for his parents, Anakin on the other hand had a tracking thing in him (I believe).

Anakin was only able to because QGJ was able to persuade Watto to put him up for a bet, if Watto said no...Star Wars would be very boring.