Damn bottem of the page...
Originally posted by Soljer
Again, Trickster, posting a respect thread does absolutely NOTHING to make your point.A bunch of premises mean nothing without a valid logical form to 'shell' them.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Co-signed.See that's your problem Trick, you take a look at a respect thread and you use that to make your assessment of the character. That's bad enough, but then you expect everyone else to draw the same conclusions that you do. What you have to understand is that it's not a characters high end showings that decide who wins in a fight, it's the AVERAGE showing that matters. If you'd learn to look BEYOND the respect threads(which are notorious for focusing on the high end and taking things out of context) and look at how the character is actually portrayed in comics, you wouldn't have so many people giving you a hard time 😬 .
Originally posted by Soljer
Better, but...Argument from bias. "He's cooler, so he'll win!"
Nothing Daredevil couldn't do. 😬.
Good thing Slade doesn't have a building to drop on Logan.
Speeds of thought vary. For example, Magneto can think fifteen times faster than an average human. Captain America's cognition is fast enough to see bullets in slow motion. Danny Rand can think fast enough to snatch a bullet out of the air.
Damn near every street leveller is faster than 'the speed of thought.'
And you didn't even back this one up. Beating shang-chi > getting tooled by the green arrow.
I have yet to see this beating Shang Chi scan. 2nd, GA had prep, and Slade wanted to be arrested. Not to mention, Natas, the guy who trained Slade, gave Ollie his new skills.
I know they're PIS, but what about the Flash feats? Or the Identity Crisis fight with the JLA?
Originally posted by long pig
He's faster than Starfire's Starbolts, in fact she says he moves around them as if they were stading still.
His healing factor is almost as rediculous as Wolverine's.
http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deathstroke5203ha0.jpg
He doesn't have to breathe......😑
Originally posted by long pig
Apparently, Slade doesn't...need to actually breath to survive.
And of course, JOBBER POWER!!! vin
Originally posted by Skeets
fear the aura....
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I admit the arguement from bias. But the fact remains that Wolverine has never had to fight guys like the JLA, Batman, etc.
Slade consistently wins against odds that are quite frankly, insane.
Originally posted by Skeets
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The stronger part is easily proven. Faster, maybe you can debate that. More skilled, Slade. I have seen nothing from Wolverine that justifies his being top tier.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
And since we are using these guys at their best, why shouldn't the high feat determine who wins? Slade is consistently written as outclassing most Street levelers.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Because if you go by high end feats only, then guys like Surfer and Supes are capable of taking down abstract level characters, and guys like Deathstroke and Spiderman are capable of taking down herald level characters.
you have to go by CONSISTENT showings...ie if SPiderman only ONCE pwned a herald, its not useful. But if he's done it 3 or more times, then you have a point.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Because if you go by high end feats only, then guys like Surfer and Supes are capable of taking down abstract level characters, and guys like Deathstroke and Spiderman are capable of taking down herald level characters.
Give Slade prep time and that staff of his........😗
I get the point, but Slade has more than enough feats to put him over Wolverine.
Why the hell is the canuck getting wanked so much? srsly
Originally posted by masterbruce
you have to go by CONSISTENT showings...ie if SPiderman only ONCE pwned a herald, its not useful. But if he's done it 3 or more times, then you have a point.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Spiderman only put down Firelord once(that much is true), but he's also gotten wins over Juggernaut and Absorbing Man, and he's also taken on Masterson Thor and even Surfer before 😬 .
but doesn't he win usually with environmental stuff...ie cement, etc? so i guess that proves that spiderman is ingenious in using battlefield advantage to survive against more powerful foes, but it doesnt mean he's more powerful
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Give Slade prep time and that staff of his........😗I get the point, but Slade has more than enough feats to put him over Wolverine.
Why the hell is the canuck getting wanked so much? srsly
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You have to remember that Wolverine's high end feats include things like going toe to toe with Gladiator for three days....
Originally posted by masterbruce
but doesn't he win usually with environmental stuff...ie cement, etc? so i guess that proves that spiderman is ingenious in using battlefield advantage to survive against more powerful foes, but it doesnt mean he's more powerful
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Give Slade prep time and that staff of his........😗
You gave him neither in this thread.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I get the point, but Slade has more than enough feats to put him over Wolverine.Why the hell is the canuck getting wanked so much? srsly
Because, Slade DOESN'T have the feats to put him over Wolverine.
They're both immortal, but Logan heals at a rate that is so much faster that it isn't funny.
They're both skilled, but Logan's so much moreso that it isn't funny.
They're both fast, but neither is conclusively faster.
They're both strong, but many who actually know the character (Deathstroke) for what he is compare his strength to Captain America's. 😐.
Not Spiderman's.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestQuestions arise... like, do you even know who Wolverine is? 😕
I admit the arguement from bias. But the fact remains that Wolverine has never had to fight guys like the JLA, Batman, etc.Slade consistently wins against odds that are quite frankly, insane.
The stronger part is easily proven. Faster, maybe you can debate that. More skilled, Slade. I have seen nothing from Wolverine that justifies his being top tier.
trickster did actaully what I new it would. He went straight to long pigs respect thread which to be honest is a good respect thread but long pig over states slades abilities.
For one thing slade had one arc with a good healing factor in honesty his healing factor is crap compared to logans.
He a good fighter yup, but again his fighting skill can not even campared to Logans.
His experience againc an not compare to Logans.
His combat speed and reflex are roughly equal.
His strength..........well it pritty much capt level ecpt for one feat which would put him in the 50 Ton mark............so im gunna go and assume he capt level strength.
as for master bruce................trick aint gunna pwn shit.
He simply posted things ive debate before. Hell all he doing is being another middar..........and you can look up how that ended in an unofficial match vs me.
Originally posted by CosmicSurfer
Wolverine is a hack and slash brawler. He's a feral fighter who relies heavily on his healing factor. He's never shown any skill that would be on par with the likes of Capt. America, Iron Fist, Batman, Taskmaster, etc.Deathstroke beats him in all three rounds.
You don't read wolverine do you?
