Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
yup. just coz supes is given the power cosmic doesnt mean he's suddently above thanos.like i said 1+1 aint greater than 3
Actually he would be greater than Thanos. It might even put him
above skyfather level.
Think about it. His speed, strength and durability would be off
the charts. You see what the power cosmic does to normal
non-powered beings. Imagine if he amped himself in the
slightest. It would be too much for Thanos to handle. It would
be like Tyrant all over again. Or maybe worse.
Originally posted by Sirius77have any scans to prove ur theory? i doubt it. ur theory makes no sense.
Actually he would be greater than Thanos. It might even put him
above skyfather level.Think about it. His speed, strength and durability would be off
the charts. You see what the power cosmic does to normal
non-powered beings. Imagine if he amped himself in the
slightest. It would be too much for Thanos to handle. It would
be like Tyrant all over again. Or maybe worse.
Adding the PC to something doesn't neccissarily make it uberl33tz off the bat.
I imagine that what people are saying is:
Currently -
Silversurfer>/=Superman>Terrax and Firelord, however...
Terrax and Firelord were >> Norrin Radd before they got the PC.
What they're saying is that even though a base character could be considerably stronger and more powerful than the other (ala Terrax and Norrin) it doesn't necessarily mean that once they receive the power cosmic that it will stay that way.
Same thing with the Uni Power.
Originally posted by MightyEInherjar
Adding the PC to something doesn't neccissarily make it uberl33tz off the bat.I imagine that what people are saying is:
Currently -
Silversurfer>/=Superman>Terrax and Firelord, however...Terrax and Firelord were >> Norrin Radd before they got the PC.
What they're saying is that even though a base character could be considerably stronger and more powerful than the other (ala Terrax and Norrin) it doesn't necessarily mean that once they receive the power cosmic that it will stay that way.
Same thing with the Uni Power.
this is dead on. superman + pc doesnt automatically make him the uber character your making him out to be. like he said, terrax and firelord were>> than norin rad before any of them became heralds but silver surfer>>terrax and firelord as heralds.
thanos hanged with warrior madness thor with power gem. and wm thor with power gem almost crushed adam warlock and silver surfer if they hadn't escaped.
thats how powerful thanos is. he's crazzzzzy powerful.
Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
this is dead on. superman + pc doesnt automatically make him the uber character your making him out to be. like he said, terrax and firelord were>> than norin rad before any of them became heralds but silver surfer>>terrax and firelord as heralds.thanos hanged with warrior madness thor with power gem. and wm thor with power gem almost crushed adam warlock and silver surfer if they hadn't escaped.
thats how powerful thanos is. he's crazzzzzy powerful.
Actually, it probably would. Superman is among the most physically powerful herald levelers. Giving him the PC would make for a very dangerous combo.
Ever heard of Superman Blue? 😉 If current Superman, with his experience as Supes Blue, was turned into the Kryptonian, he would demolish Thanos. thanduros
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Actually, it probably would. Superman is among the most physically powerful herald levelers. Giving him the PC would make for a very dangerous combo.Ever heard of Superman Blue? 😉 If current Superman, with his experience as Supes Blue, was turned into the Kryptonian, he would demolish Thanos. thanduros
giving him the pc would mean he'd be like the silver surfer only without the surf board. surfer could actually increase his strength and speed and durability with the pc to uncalculable levels, though he doesnt coz he's a dumb ass.
and surfer has more experience with energy and matter manipulation that superman blue. and he cant do squat to thanos. i may not like thanos, but he is uber. the kryptonian's pc powers would have the same effect as the surfers pc powers on thanos, meaning not a damb thing.
when it comes to galactus making herarlds, base power means nothing.
Originally posted by starlock
This is obviously a guessing game noone can win........not enough feats from the KryptonianBut in my opinon i think Kryptonian would beat thanos
I do as well, as it stands i think Superman alone would give thanos a run for his money, but if you added the power cosmic into the mix he would no longer wear thin his resources, as he could alway replinish them hundreds maybe thousands of time more than he is now. Superman would be a beast, I see him being as powerful as the Silver Surfer in the Exiles story line, and that dude was a terror. Superman with the power cosmic could be conceivable more powerful than that. Whick would mean that Thanos would bite it almost immediately if the Kryptonian got angry enough to stop holding back.
Originally posted by CaptainStoicsuperman alone would be about a big of a threat as thor. and thor hasnt done shit to thanos. even warrior madness thor with the power gem couldnt defeat thanos. the kman goes down as well.
I do as well, as it stands i think Superman alone would give thanos a run for his money, but if you added the power cosmic into the mix he would no longer wear thin his resources, as he could alway replinish them hundreds maybe thousands of time more than he is now. Superman would be a beast, I see him being as powerful as the Silver Surfer in the Exiles story line, and that dude was a terror. Superman with the power cosmic could be conceivable more powerful than that. Whick would mean that Thanos would bite it almost immediately if the Kryptonian got angry enough to stop holding back.
thanos hangs with odin while superman could never not even here as the kryptonian.
Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
giving him the pc would mean he'd be like the silver surfer only without the surf board. surfer could actually increase his strength and speed and durability with the pc to uncalculable levels, though he doesnt coz he's a dumb ass.and surfer has more experience with energy and matter manipulation that superman blue. and he cant do squat to thanos. i may not like thanos, but he is uber. the kryptonian's pc powers would have the same effect as the surfers pc powers on thanos, meaning not a damb thing.
when it comes to galactus making herarlds, base power means nothing.
When has Surfer ever tried matter manip on Thanos? The one time that it was tried, it worked just fine on the Titan.
Originally posted by Sirius77
The Kryptonian has the potential to pwn Superman-Prime.He has the ability to absorb any type of energy. Including solar energy.
He became a semi-abstract entity in All-Star Superman from a million
years in the sun.Imagine if he absorbed the ENTIRE sun with the power cosmic?
He would at LEAST be an abstract.
Abstract? not likely...But i do agree that he beats Thanos.
Wow.
Hyperbole for the loss again it seems.
People see the kryptonian, it seems they automatically think it's Surfer + Superman = a koed Thanos.
I'll never understand why people make debates with a character that has little to no feats under their belt.
It makes debating them combatwise, impossible.
And lol at the guy who said Superman Prime became a semi-abstract entity....
Dictionary.com is begging for a visit.
^Correct. Why exactly is the Kryptonian an exact sum of superman's own powers + PC? To be honest, a high level herald already has many of superman's own powers, such as your durability, strength (through amping, although superman probably has the edge on every herald), a power source (arguably a better one than a yellow sun), speed so on. The Kryptonian could absorb suns for power, I guess, although it could be argued that heralds are capable of doing the same. Superman does have quite a few exotic tricks, but the only ones that would work are T-vo related. In other words, he is a stronger surfer with arguably better fight speed. Not sure if that would be enough. Impossible to argue without feats in any case.
Originally posted by OualladaPROBABLY BECAUSE IN THE COMIC THE KRYPTONIAN WAS SUPERMAN IMBUED WITH THE POWER COSMIC
^Correct. Why exactly is the Kryptonian an exact sum of superman's own powers + PC? To be honest, a high level herald already has many of superman's own powers, such as your durability, strength (through amping, although superman probably has the edge on every herald), a power source (arguably a better one than a yellow sun), speed so on. The Kryptonian could absorb suns for power, I guess, although it could be argued that heralds are capable of doing the same. Superman does have quite a few exotic tricks, but the only ones that would work are T-vo related. In other words, he is a stronger surfer with arguably better fight speed. Not sure if that would be enough. Impossible to argue without feats in any case.