Kryptonian vs. Thanos

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
I do as well, as it stands i think Superman alone would give thanos a run for his money, but if you added the power cosmic into the mix he would no longer wear thin his resources, as he could alway replinish them hundreds maybe thousands of time more than he is now. Superman would be a beast, I see him being as powerful as the Silver Surfer in the Exiles story line, and that dude was a terror. Superman with the power cosmic could be conceivable more powerful than that. Whick would mean that Thanos would bite it almost immediately if the Kryptonian got angry enough to stop holding back.

There is somthing galactus says as he empowers supes...somthing about senses?,i will check it out...the comic is GIANT SIZE lol so it should not be hard to find

I think supes is also close to surfer in overall power.. close but add supes weaknesses and surfer prevails

Herald superman i believe would be more powerfull than surfer

Originally posted by Juntai
PROBABLY BECAUSE IN THE COMIC THE KRYPTONIAN WAS SUPERMAN IMBUED WITH THE POWER COSMIC

No need to yell....jk.

But just because he's Superman with the PC, doesn't mean he's Superman + Surfer, which it seems many people here seems to think it means.

He had no feats under his belt.

Whatsoever.

What feats he has, are the ones he's got as classic Superman.

Classic Superman can't beat Thanos, so unless this special version gets some on panel showings, he loses by default.

Unless the one thing we do know about him..........his ass (being shiny as hell) is enough for him to defeat the Titan?

doesnt thanos have the power cosmic,but he goes insane when he uses it?

Well Morg was able to pwn all of the heralds. which likely, Thanos could do. Since Thanos put up a good fight with him. I'd say Thanos is around 8-10 more powerful than a herald , if he uses all of his abilities. Even if Superman where amped with the power cosmic, I can only see him being maybe 4 times more powerful. Becuz of Speed, i'd say they draw.

Originally posted by Juntai
PROBABLY BECAUSE IN THE COMIC THE KRYPTONIAN WAS SUPERMAN IMBUED WITH THE POWER COSMIC

Which was what I said. Thanos beats SS like Shaq would hammer a 3year old. Common concensus has it that superman loses. Given that the PC overlaps with superman's original powerset to a large degree, barring some pretty tricks that may not work on someone at Thanos' level, what I said makes perfect sense.

I'm still not arguing this, but anyone who wants to argue for the Kryptonian can simply provide an argument as to why, keeping in mind that Kryptonian =/= SS + superman.

someone show me a scan of the kryptonian doing something special as to why they think hed have a shot of beating thanos. this isnt tyrante people its a shinier superman. thanos wins.

Originally posted by Ouallada
Which was what I said. Thanos beats SS like Shaq would hammer a 3year old. Common concensus has it that superman loses. Given that the PC overlaps with superman's original powerset to a large degree, barring some pretty tricks that may not work on someone at Thanos' level, what I said makes perfect sense.

I'm still not arguing this, but anyone who wants to argue for the Kryptonian can simply provide an argument as to why, keeping in mind that Kryptonian =/= SS + superman.

which is what i've been saying, superman with the pc doesnt mean that he is suddenly surfer+superman in power.

and again, as stated, thanos took on warrior madness thor with power gem. now, thor and superman are about equal. thor in warrior madness has his strength, power, abilites, etc multiplied by 10. now add the power gem to this and you have one mean bad ass.

now if you want to keep arguing that the krypotnian is surfer + superman, thorx10> superman+silver surfer and thorx10+power gem>>> than superman+silver surfer.

and thor traded blows with thorx10+power gem.

Of course he wins. The Surfer should win it's just he has no battle skills at all that makes him lose. Supes on the other hand is a warrior.

Originally posted by Zebedee
Of course he wins. The Surfer should win it's just he has no battle skills at all that makes him lose. Supes on the other hand is a warrior.

You make it sound like a certainty, even though the only things we are certain of is that 1) Kryptonian has no feats and 2) Thanos beats on surfer and superman individually.

Surfer has been shown to be adept in battles when he tries, and this extends outside of H2H, which I assume is what you are referring to. Superman already has arguably greater strength than any herald, and has better H2H feats than any herald, so I fail to see how exactly the PC is going to make him exponentially stronger. Firelord and Terrax were way above human when granted the PC, but yet are lower than Stardust or surfer as heralds. Thus, it cannot even be proved that superman having a stronger base equals a more powerful herald. Even if his base powers make him a much more powerful herald, Thanos falls just short of Skyfather level. People fail to understand at times that herald level and skyfather level are light years apart.

To be honest, I would pose this question. Without Galactus' statement that the Kryptonian is the most powerful herald ever, would anyone save fanboys realistically believe in Thanos losing?

which is what i've been saying, superman with the pc doesnt mean that he is suddenly surfer+superman in power.

and again, as stated, thanos took on warrior madness thor with power gem. now, thor and superman are about equal. thor in warrior madness has his strength, power, abilites, etc multiplied by 10. now add the power gem to this and you have one mean bad ass.

now if you want to keep arguing that the krypotnian is surfer + superman, thorx10> superman+silver surfer and thorx10+power gem>>> than superman+silver surfer.

and thor traded blows with thorx10+power gem.

Read my posts. I am in agreement that Kryptonian is NOT equal to SS and superman combined.

I'll take Galactus's word for it that Kryptonian would be the greatest herald ever. He knows what he's talking about. This means Kryptonian is the standard Supes with the PC augmenting his already established Kryptonian powers. This has to be the case or else Galactus wouldn't have made a statement like that. This would in a sense turn him into Blue Energy Supes with all of the previous standard abilities of a Kryptonian. Thanos is pwned.

Originally posted by Sundipped
I'll take Galactus's word for it that Kryptonian would be the greatest herald ever. He knows what he's talking about. This means Kryptonian is the standard Supes with the PC augmenting his already established Kryptonian powers. This has to be the case or else Galactus wouldn't have made a statement like that. This would in a sense turn him into Blue Energy Supes with all of the previous standard abilities of a Kryptonian. Thanos is pwned.

I agree any other option is misdirection.

The Kryptonian 10/10 To fast and to strong

I agree that, in theory, a cosmically-amped Superman would beat Thanos, ASSUMING that the Kryptonian IS a Superman/Surfer amalgam. Or assuming he gets all the nifty powers of Blue Energy.

However, those are assumptions we simply cannot make.

Even if we take Galactus' statement at face value, that only means the Kryptonian only must be more powerful than a classic Silver Surfer. Not necessarily a LOT more powerful, not necessarily only a tiny bit. We don't know.

The Kryptonian doesn't have enough feats under his belt to say conclusively that EITHER character here would win.

However, it is clear that a, theoretical, Superman Herald - simply being an amalgam of Superman and the Surfer - would be plenty capable of beating Thanos for a majority.

Originally posted by Soljer
I agree that, in theory, a cosmically-amped Superman would beat Thanos, ASSUMING that the Kryptonian IS a Superman/Surfer amalgam. Or assuming he gets all the nifty powers of Blue Energy.

However, those are assumptions we simply cannot make.

Even if we take Galactus' statement at face value, that only means the Kryptonian only must be more powerful than a classic Silver Surfer. Not necessarily a LOT more powerful, not necessarily only a tiny bit. We don't know.

The Kryptonian doesn't have enough feats under his belt to say conclusively that EITHER character here would win.

However, it is clear that a, theoretical, Superman Herald - simply being an amalgam of Superman and the Surfer - would be plenty capable of beating Thanos for a majority.

Simply stated, I know you guys who say the Kryptonian would win are right but I can't bring myself to say it?

Originally posted by Zebedee
Simply stated, I know you guys who say the Kryptonian would win are right but I can't bring myself to say it?

No, because based off of what we know for sure, the Kryptonian wouldn't necessarily win.

That was my entire point, there isn't enough information to back up the Kryptonian winning, or getting a mudhole stomped in him.

supes here has no feats to back up a lot of these theories based on his powers. we know what thanos can do and we know hes above galactus heralds. thanos wins.

Originally posted by Soljer
No, because based off of what we know for sure, the Kryptonian wouldn't necessarily win.

That was my entire point, there isn't enough information to back up the Kryptonian winning, or getting a mudhole stomped in him.

Well we know Thanos had trouble with Runner due to his speed. So yes we do know the Kryptonian would win in my opinion, it's all about opinino. Your saying the glass is half empty. I'm saying it's half full and i'm biased because apart from early Thanos pre an including Marvel 2 in 1 Annual 2. I couldn't stand him.

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Originally posted by Zebedee
Well we know Thanos had trouble with Runner due to his speed. So yes we do know the Kryptonian would win in my opinion, it's all about opinino. Your saying the glass is half empty. I'm saying it's half full and i'm biased because apart from early Thanos pre an including Marvel 2 in 1 Annual 2. I couldn't stand him.

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Originally posted by Zebedee
Well we know Thanos had trouble with Runner due to his speed. So yes we do know the Kryptonian would win in my opinion, it's all about opinino. Your saying the glass is half empty. I'm saying it's half full and i'm biased because apart from early Thanos pre an including Marvel 2 in 1 Annual 2. I couldn't stand him.

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No offense meant here, but this post really makes it sound like you're saying; "Thanos loses cause I don't like him." 😬.

Regardless, the theoretical power of the Kryptonian is more than enough to take down Thanos.

The displayed power, however, is not.

Originally posted by Soljer
No offense meant here, but this post really makes it sound like you're saying; "Thanos loses cause I don't like him." 😬.

Regardless, the theoretical power of the Kryptonian is more than enough to take down Thanos.

The displayed power, however, is not.

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Originally posted by Soljer
No offense meant here, but this post really makes it sound like you're saying; "Thanos loses cause I don't like him." 😬.

Originally posted by Soljer
Regardless, the theoretical power of the Kryptonian is more than enough to take down Thanos.

That's a good theory

Originally posted by Soljer

The displayed power, however, is not.

Don't ruin it now, let's stick with your excellent theory.

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