The Celestials (Entire Race) Vs. The Endless

Originally posted by Cubicks
The above statements are in direct conflict with each other. A being that is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent is second to nothing, period.

Furthermore, if a being were omnipotent, could it create something so big that it could not lift it? Either a yes or no to this question proves that it is not omnipotent. This question can be asked of anything.

Not in marvel where different levels of omnipotente exist (don't ask why)

I believe KMC_Drifter actually answear that paradox very well in such a thread created not long ago.

And my answear to the Paradox would be oure way to preceive the reality isn't enough to comprehende such a situation. A omnipotente Being can create a Kvadrat thats still a circle that impossible for me to comprehende.

there is no one from the endless who can defeat scathan. no one.

Originally posted by Cubicks
The above statements are in direct conflict with each other. A being that is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent is second to nothing, period.

Most vets know this, but I'll post it for you.

In Marvel there are different levels of Omnipotence/Infinity:

Is Kubik lying?

Not at all.

This fact was confirmed by Dr Strange:

"the very Concept of Infinity is relative,

Numbers are Infinite, so are odd Numbers, yet by definition,

there are Twice as many Numbers as there are odd Numbers ...

One Infinity is included within a larger Infinity"

Originally posted by Mr Master
Most vets know this, but I'll post it for you.

In Marvel there are different levels of Omnipotence/Infinity:

Is Kubik lying?

Not at all.

This fact was confirmed by Dr Strange:

"the very Concept of Infinity is relative,

Numbers are Infinite, so are odd Numbers, yet by definition,

there are Twice as many Numbers as there are odd Numbers ...

One Infinity is included within a larger Infinity"

Just curious... can we get some scans of right before kubix starts talking in your scan, id like to get a better idea of what they are talking about exactly
All i see is infinity being talked about in both sets of scans, why are you putting omnipotence along with it?

Originally posted by starlock
Just curious... can we get some scans of right before kubix starts talking in your scan, id like to get a better idea of what they are talking about exactly

There's only two scans prior to the Kubik & Kosmos conversation.

Kosmos asks,

"Kubik, do we not possess Infinite Power?" (omnipotence)

Kubik responds,

"Yes, OUR Might is Infinite, but there are Levels of Infinity"

Originally posted by starlock
All i see is infinity being talked about in both sets of scans,
why are you putting omnipotence along with it?

Because Kubik & Kosmos' conversation revolves around Infinite Power,

which is omnipotence.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Most vets know this, but I'll post it for you.

In Marvel there are different levels of Omnipotence/Infinity:

Is Kubik lying?

Not at all.

This fact was confirmed by Dr Strange:

"the very Concept of Infinity is relative,

Numbers are Infinite, so are odd Numbers, yet by definition,

there are Twice as many Numbers as there are odd Numbers ...

One Infinity is included within a larger Infinity"

That is a well laid out post. However, the problem is still in the terminology. When you start dissecting the "concept" of infinity like in those scans, infinity starts to lose its meaning. By Kubiks own logic he is infinite however, is he truly infinite? No, merely part of it. If you follow that train of thought then Aunt May, you, and I are all infinite too. And that though is absurd. However, we are just bigger numbers that are divided into infinity.

Originally posted by Cubicks
That is a well laid out post. However, the problem is still in the terminology. When you start dissecting the "concept" of infinity like in those scans, infinity starts to lose its meaning. By Kubiks own logic he is infinite however, is he truly infinite? No, merely part of it.

If you follow that train of thought then Aunt May, you, and I are all infinite too. And that though is absurd. However, we are just bigger numbers that are divided into infinity.

But Aunt May, nor you or I,
can warp Time & Space on a near-Universal scale,
while Kubik & Kosmos can.

Originally posted by Mr Master
But Aunt May, nor you or I,
can warp Time & Space on a near-Universal scale,
while Kubik & Kosmos can.

Originally posted by Mr Master
But Aunt May, nor you or I,
can warp Time & Space on a near-Universal scale,
while Kubik & Kosmos can.

You are correct, there is a difference, just like between LT and Kubik. I think you made my point in you post better than I could. The degree of the difference is irrelevant because, I used us three as a low-end of the scale for comparison. In theory you could post your Marvel hierarchy and as it descends, each level is less than those above it, while according to Kubik still being a part of infinity.

You said it yourself that Kubik and Kosmos can warp Time & Space on a near-universal scale. What scale can LT do it, Scathan, pre-retcon Beyonder?

Originally posted by quanchi112
there is no one from the endless who can defeat scathan. no one.

didn't u just say earlier we wasn't using scathan?? Destiny could just turn time back on him making him not a threat 😉

Remind me to stop reading comics, when I begin to take math lessons from some fictional character.

Originally posted by kevdude
didn't u just say earlier we wasn't using scathan?? Destiny could just turn time back on him making him not a threat 😉

Originally posted by quanchi112
that was another thread. i wasnt allowing scathan in the 4th celestial host vs impereix prime. but he is allowed here as it is the entire race.

Ah thats right, anyway all of them except scathan wouldn't effect them. Who did you pick in Scathan vs LT??

Originally posted by quanchi112
destiny would know its time was up when scathan showed up.

To put it bluntly: you are an idiot.

roflmao

Originally posted by Estacado
You don't even understand their "purpose"....eh?
Nevermind......

Welcome back Esacado. Destiny would take care of them like he swiftly took care of the Necropolis Litharge, the caretakers of the dead when he erased them. And Death wouldn't even need to help 😂 . The Endless are beyond the Multiverse indeed.

Mr Master, as always, trying to fool everybody with that scans
I find it hilarious that anybody could think that there are different levels of omnipotence. Omnipotence is by definition supreme, unlimited power. Unsurpassable. A being can't be omnipotent and be surpassed because that would contradict the whole concept of Omnipotence.

I already explained that scans and I will explain it again. It's rather simple to understand really, but some just choose to twist the statements illogically (levels of Omnipotence 😆 ).

I'll use the same analogy. I'll assume everybody is familiar with the four fundamental forces (Electromagnetism, Gravity, Strong Nuclear Force and Weak Nuclear Force). Imagine character A having infinite control over Electromagnetism and character B having infinite control over Gravity. Now imagine character C having infinite control over all four fundamental forces. Thus, character C contains the other 2 infinites in his area of power.

As I said , it's rather simple. Just because you have infinite power over a certain area does not mean you are omnipotent .

Even the scans clearly explain this , with the number analogy .
Dr Strange also clearly says this : "One infinite is included within a larger infinity"

Originally posted by quanchi112
that was another thread. i wasnt allowing scathan in the 4th celestial host vs impereix prime. but he is allowed here as it is the entire race.

Originally posted by kevdude
Welcome back Esacado. Destiny would take care of them like he swiftly took care of the Necropolis Litharge, the caretakers of the dead when he erased them. And Death wouldn't even need to help 😂 . The Endless are beyond the Multiverse indeed.

Originally posted by Estacado
There is only one ****ing problem here...... you are not the thread starter so no one gives a shit about what you say. 😐
Thanks.313
I think everyone should put this clown on ignore since he can't comprehend comics and it's useless to debate with him cause he is the most biased person on the forum also he says bullshit all the time which will make you lose your patience and you'll go mad about it.

There is only one ****ing problem here...... you are not the thread starter so no one gives a shit about what you say. 😐

I think everyone should put this clown on ignore since he can't comprehend comics and it's useless to debate with him cause he is the most biased person on the forum also he says bullshit all the time which will make you lose your patience and you'll go mad about it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
i was addressing kevdudes question to me in particular. i wasnt acting like i was threadstarter in the least. listen u put me on ignore again. i post my opinion. if it angers you ignore me. dont come here to start stuff all the time. this routine is old and rallying people against me is juvenile.

Not as juvenile as you, my slow witted friend. Hah.