Originally posted by Creshosk
Most of them by you.
Soundless accusations.
Originally posted by Creshosk
More of Mr. Master's BS really.
An irrelevant and direct insult, unprovoked.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Isn't it great? in GS's absence you're becoming the new GS.
I took you off ignore yesterday cause we were having a cool convo,
but you're back to this, and I'm not going to be pulled into it.
Now reply with another snide remark or whatever, who cares.
Nice knowing ya!
Originally posted by Mr MasterObviously because they're in text.
Soundless accusations.
Originally posted by Mr MasterNot a direct insult to you, just a disagreement with your opinions.
An irrelevant and direct insult, unprovoked.
Originally posted by Mr MasterOh, that makes sense.
I took you off ignore yesterday cause we were having a cool convo,
Originally posted by Mr MasterThat's fine.
but you're back to this, and I'm not going to be pulled into it.
Originally posted by Mr MasterOnly cause I'm hurting inside... I'll admit it. I'm hurting and I'm just taking my frustrations out on those around me.
Now reply with another snide remark or whatever, who cares.
Originally posted by Mr MasterPity I can't say the same.
Nice knowing ya!
Originally posted by Creshosk
Obviously because they're in text.
There's more than one meaning to "Sound"
Originally posted by Creshosk
Not a direct insult to you, just a disagreement with your opinions.
Accusing me of BS without proof is an insult Cresh,
(then you add "just more of" as though I'm known for it) which isn't true.
Couldn't you just say I disagree, it's a valid and respectable opinion.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Oh, that makes sense.
I peeked into your post out of curiosity because of the mayhem in that thread,
I saw your appealing smilie, I made a conversation out of it,
I found out some interesting things about you and all was fine.
Originally posted by Creshosk
That's fine.
Or we could just be cool kmc peers. I like that better.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Only cause I'm hurting inside... I'll admit it.
I'm hurting and I'm just taking my frustrations out on those around me.
Why?
You're in the midst of raising a company, or already have,
you're obviously intelligent,
I seen your pic, I'm sure you do well with ladies, and your talented.
Ah, then again, those objective virtues don't bring happiness so I feel you.
Christ gave me fulfillment I never thought possible,
imo, that is the only key to true joy, a sense of true purpose,
living life with a meaning that has substance,
knowing that the finality of all this pain and suffering going on in the world
is not illogical injustice. That there's a divine reasoning behind it, and every individual realizes it in their own way (one on one with God)
And that's on a general/broad perspective,
on a personal note, I noticed how the pressures of life began diminishing,
even if they're there in the physical sense, emotionally/psychologically I'm a wonder man,
a God-like existence awaits all those who endure the madness of this Earth bound existence.
I don't know where your spiritual beliefs are at,
but mine are cemented in the Bible,
no church or man or organized religion can sway me,
strickly the word of God, nothing and nobody else,
and I pray that He gives me the wisdom to understand His words, but since I believe my mind/consciousness is guided by the Holy Spirit (God's Spirit)
I have to believe that my interpretation, concerning the Word. (for me personally) is right.
And I've fallen many times, even knowing I was doing wrong,
I don't need to detail my horrible decisions,
but I was a wretched sinner undeserving of anything granted to me by God,
and I'm still weak,
yet, in knowing this and accepting/admitting this truth, my inner humility has surfaced,
now at least, giving me a road to follow, where perhaps I'll be able to become worthy,
not only of God's forgiveness (which will give me salvation) but of my own,
granting me hope which leads to unfathomable delight.
Our right is to become children of God,
of course, in freewill we must choose to accept this gift,
and the promise from Christ's own words are, that we are "gods" (John 10:33-35)
we are destined to become "gods" in the next and last eternal existence,
where anything and everything will be a thought away. (Matthew 17:20)
Wow, the word gives me energy, pardon the monologue,
but I don't enjoy knowing anyone is hurting, especially one with such potential.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Pity I can't say the same.
Before I was susceptible, and I became defensive,
but I am glad that I did know this and was able to share that with you.
Goodnight, and if you ever wanna talk, my PM is there,
and you will always be welcomed.
Originally posted by Mr Master
5th Host of Celestials > Govlin Force >>> Phoenix Force.You can always email Marvel and complain, but it is what it is.
Yea, he was Starving.
That was a normal Galactus.
And I never said Galactus > Phoenix
but cats shouldn't bring up Rachel (who was One with the embodiment of the Force)
defeating a Hungry Galactus as evidence of Phoenix > Galactus either.It was defeated, bottomline.
While the same Goblin Force first devoured
then absrobed the embodiment of the Phoenix Force.Arishem didn't even feel that.
And Thor balsted a hole through Exitar armor with his hammer, and again, it wasn't felt.
Nah, the fact that it was devoured First though, does.
ehwtf
It's plausible.
I think I will do that 😉
He was yes.
Okay just thought you where using this 5th Celestial Host > Goblin Force > Phoenix Force > Galactus
when we don't know Galactus powerlevels during his confrontation with the Goblin Force, he could have been starving as well. But you said yourself Normal Galactus > Phoenix so 👆
It was yes all I'm saying is that we know nothing about the way it was defeated. The Celestials could have used there tech against it like there Tech obviously worked against Protego :rolleeyes: but its canon, so if going by that thought then the Celestials have Tech that can bind a LT level Character (that know shit about his powers) so the Goblin Force shouldn't if we follow that thought be a problem.
No but the situation remains that small fractions of the Phoenix force is capable of hurting Arishem he is the leader of the 5th host.
So if I Devour I lion I >>> That Lion???
Yes it is
Originally posted by Utrigita
I think I will do that
Cool.
Originally posted by Utrigita
He was yes.
I agree.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Okay just thought you where using this 5th Celestial Host > Goblin Force > Phoenix Force > Galactus
Imo,
616 Galactus,
at the infamous & mysterious "full power" scale = Eternity's Totality (Multiverse)
That's who Galan merged with, actually, I'm wrong about that,
Galan merged with the dying Sentience of the Previous Universe (IB)
hmm, I never really focused on that,
can this mean that Galactus potentially = the original IB?
Don't wanna go there but it's a thought.
Actually I doubt that,
it's more likely that although the IB merged with Galan, (a fact)
it was only in order to create a balanced New Marvel Universe, (Eternity)
that the IB was Not a Part of.
This is why the IB imbued the 7 Gems with its power & consciousness,
in order to possibly exist in this New Marvel Universe, and yet, be Apart from it.
Unlikew the previous Universe, where the IB was everything, and all creation in it.
Originally posted by Utrigita
when we don't know Galactus powerlevels during his confrontation with the Goblin Force, he could have been starving as well.
It's not inconceivable, so I'll agree, that is possible concerning Galactus.
But the embodiment of the Phoenix Force's power doesn't fluxuate,
and it was stomped.
Originally posted by Utrigita
But you said yourself Normal Galactus > Phoenix so 👆
Yea, Phoenix herself stated that Galactus was her equal:
but Galactus said, that WITH TIME,
"he would eventually DESTROY PHOENIX"
Originally posted by Utrigita
It was yes all I'm saying is that we know nothing about the way it was defeated.
Cool, but like I said, the bottomline is, that it was defeated by the 5th Host.
Originally posted by Utrigita
The Celestials could have used there tech against it like there Tech obviously worked against Protego but its canon, so if going by that thought then the Celestials have Tech that can bind a LT level Character (that know shit about his powers) so the Goblin Force shouldn't if we follow that thought be a problem.
Yea but look at how Scathan used his "tech"
He didn't go somewhere to fetch it, he didn't have it in his back pocket,
he gestured with his finger, and Protege was neutralized with the tech.
So if a Celestial can instantaneously produce tech
and attack with said tech with a gesture,
to me, imo,
that's no different than the power being manifested dierectly from the Celestial.
Originally posted by Utrigita
No but the situation remains that small fractions of the Phoenix force is capable of hurting Arishem he is the leader of the 5th host.
I don't know who's the leader of the 5th Host, but I'll look into it.
Originally posted by Utrigita
So if I Devour I lion I >>> That Lion???
This real world analogy isn't the same thing Ut, come on.
Obviously the PF was stomped (devoured) then absorbed (eaten)
Originally posted by Utrigita
Yes it is
Yea, I agree.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Cool.I agree.
Imo,
616 Galactus,
at the infamous & mysterious "full power" scale = Eternity's Totality (Multiverse)That's who Galan merged with, actually, I'm wrong about that,
Galan merged with the dying Sentience of the Previous Universe (IB)
hmm, I never really focused on that,
can this mean that Galactus potentially = the original IB?Don't wanna go there but it's a thought.
Actually I doubt that,
it's more likely that although the IB merged with Galan, (a fact)
it was only in order to create a balanced New Marvel Universe, (Eternity)
that the IB was Not a Part of.This is why the IB imbued the 7 Gems with its power & consciousness,
in order to possibly exist in this New Marvel Universe, and yet, be Apart from it.
Unlikew the previous Universe, where the IB was everything, and all creation in it.It's not inconceivable, so I'll agree, that is possible concerning Galactus.
But the embodiment of the Phoenix Force's power doesn't fluxuate,
and it was stomped.Yea, Phoenix herself stated that Galactus was her equal:
but Galactus said, that WITH TIME,
"he would eventually DESTROY PHOENIX"
Cool, but like I said, the bottomline is, that it was defeated by the 5th Host.
Yea but look at how Scathan used his "tech"
He didn't go somewhere to fetch it, he didn't have it in his back pocket,
he gestured with his finger, and Protege was neutralized with the tech.So if a Celestial can instantaneously produce tech
and attack with said tech with a gesture,
to me, imo,
that's no different than the power being manifested dierectly from the Celestial.I don't know who's the leader of the 5th Host, but I'll look into it.
This real world analogy isn't the same thing Ut, come on.
Obviously the PF was stomped (devoured) then absorbed (eaten)
Yea, I agree.
Arishem the Judge is the leader 🙂
Originally posted by Mr Master
Cool.I agree.
Imo,
616 Galactus,
at the infamous & mysterious "full power" scale = Eternity's Totality (Multiverse)That's who Galan merged with, actually, I'm wrong about that,
Galan merged with the dying Sentience of the Previous Universe (IB)
hmm, I never really focused on that,
can this mean that Galactus potentially = the original IB?Don't wanna go there but it's a thought.
Actually I doubt that,
it's more likely that although the IB merged with Galan, (a fact)
it was only in order to create a balanced New Marvel Universe, (Eternity)
that the IB was Not a Part of.This is why the IB imbued the 7 Gems with its power & consciousness,
in order to possibly exist in this New Marvel Universe, and yet, be Apart from it.
Unlikew the previous Universe, where the IB was everything, and all creation in it.It's not inconceivable, so I'll agree, that is possible concerning Galactus.
But the embodiment of the Phoenix Force's power doesn't fluxuate,
and it was stomped.Yea, Phoenix herself stated that Galactus was her equal:
but Galactus said, that WITH TIME,
"he would eventually DESTROY PHOENIX"
Cool, but like I said, the bottomline is, that it was defeated by the 5th Host.
Yea but look at how Scathan used his "tech"
He didn't go somewhere to fetch it, he didn't have it in his back pocket,
he gestured with his finger, and Protege was neutralized with the tech.So if a Celestial can instantaneously produce tech
and attack with said tech with a gesture,
to me, imo,
that's no different than the power being manifested dierectly from the Celestial.I don't know who's the leader of the 5th Host, but I'll look into it.
This real world analogy isn't the same thing Ut, come on.
Obviously the PF was stomped (devoured) then absorbed (eaten)
Yea, I agree.
Will try and mention Scathan at the same time 😠
Are you suggesting that Galan could somehow if feed enough Potential reach the level of IB????? I find it more possible that he merged with Multieternity.
Its correct about Galactus, and dark Phoenix wasn't as strong as the other versions was she, the same could be said about Phoenix of the White Crown. So there power do shift.
😂 I love those scans they will end up in Galactus respect thread along with the scan from IM's planet gets devoured by Galactus. (if its okay with you)
Yes that correct.
Yeah it was a bad example...
Its arishem, you can clearly see him when the fifth host arrives to witness the Anomoly Maelstrom created.
I know, my bad but stomped... thats normally what happens when Surfer tries to attack Galactus. Thats normallywhat I think about when STOMP is mentioned.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Are you suggesting that Galan could somehow if feed enough Potential reach the level of IB????? I find it more possible that he merged with Multieternity.
Actaully Galan definitely merged with the previous Universe,
while the previous Universe was dying:
The previous Universe was the IB.
But yea like I stated,
I believe it did this in order to create a balanced New Marvel Universe.
So in the end, Galan became Galactus the balance in the New Multiverse.
I'll also add that the so-called 100% Galactus = Multi-Eternity as I also stated already.
(IMO according to reasons)
The Big G equaling the IB was a thought, nothing more Ut.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Its correct about Galactus,
We don't know if Galactus was hungry or not.
But really, that scan was thrown in to prove that,
Celestials > Goblin Force > Phoenix Force
Eternity > Celestials
So Eternity > Phoenix Force. (for the purpose of the thread) 🙂
Originally posted by Utrigita
and dark Phoenix wasn't as strong as the other versions was she, the same could be said about Phoenix of the White Crown. So there power do shift.
Actually, the power of Avatars may shift,
but that was the embodiment of the Force (Host-less)
that's as powerful as the Phoenix can be.
Originally posted by Utrigita
I love those scans they will end up in Galactus respect thread along with the scan from IM's planet gets devoured by Galactus. (if its okay with you)
Of course, my whole thing here is to share Marvel info,
so yall can spread the knowledge.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Its arishem, you can clearly see him when the fifth host arrives to witness the Anomoly Maelstrom created.
Cool.
Originally posted by Utrigita
I know, my bad but stomped... thats normally what happens when Surfer tries to attack Galactus. Thats normallywhat I think about when STOMP is mentioned.
Right, that's what happened to the embodiment of the Phoenix Force.
meh, getting devoured and absorbed is even worse if you think about it.
Originally posted by Mr Master
[B]Exactly, he was Starving.
Rachel blew his converter and he was struck by the explosion.Still not a direct attack. Those don't count. This has nothing to do with the fight. Rachel wanted to make sure Galactus dosen't feed as her primary goal. This was not fight related.
[QUOTE]Really?
Where is that stated?
"Where is it stated"? Look at the visuals. There are no words written nor is there any evidence of an attack. The Phoenix flares up and Galactus takes a defensive stance.
You're willfully ignoring on panel art, cool.
See above. Now am I the 1 really ignoring on panel art? It is what it is.
You see one, I see Two direct hits, and one indirect hit = 3. 🙂
You want to see 2 direct hits but there was only 1. There was 1 indirect hit unrelated to the fight.
What has WPOTC done, that Phoenix Back in day hasn't?In fact, even an Alternate Phoenix has been more impressive than WPOTC.
An Alternate Phoenix (in a What IF) actually consumed an Alternate Universe.
WPOTC held a 150 year old Universe in her hands. (a Baby)
Uatu did the same thing with a Baby Universe too.
WPOTC has NEVER Destroyed, Remade or Created a single Universe.
The WPOTC made adjustments to this "baby universe" while holding it. It would seem to me like she coule obliterate it, without effort if she desired. Especially if it was worthless. Isn't that her job anyway? 🙄 Give her more apperances, I guarantee more high end feats. I don't care about Uatu doing the same. He ran for his life when Deathurge was instructed to murder him. Dr. Strange has blocked Deathurge's attacks with auto-shields. Any Phoenix version>>>>>>Uatu.
So you say.Where is this stated?
On Panel the embodiment of the PF said:
"ALL I have become, You ARE Too"
"My Essence is Bonded to Your Spirit, the Burden of Power, will be YOURS"
So is the Force lying you're saying?
How convenient in order to dismiss the On Panel evidence.
Still nothing more but an initiation speech. I can see this speech given to any new host of the PF. It is a prestigeous honor after all. Now what has PF Rachael done (other than punk Galan, and even Jean did it too in a What If) that put her anywhere close to even Jean as Dark Phoenix?
Don't make me bring out the embodiment of the PF (Hostless)
MORE powerful than Jean getting stomped by an Alien Ship,
or 6 Heroes,
or Magneto who blew the embodiment of the Phoenix Force into Billions of pieces .
Complete bullshit and a capital PIS! The Phoenix Force should completely vanquish the ship, heroes, and Mags. Consider this the greatest bullshit high end feat for Mags and everyone involved.
Of course,cause it states On Panel a fact you dislike.
Yeah, you already know where I stand on that.
Originally posted by CreshoskDidn't Wolverine kill pretty much all heroes on Earth in a What-If?
I remember a what if, where Phoenix didn't kill herself, and that universe was wiped out due to it... Funny that huh?
Also, in Mutant X, wasn't that Mutant X version of the Celestials, Galactus, Phoenix, and Goblin Queen?
Originally posted by Harry FingermanTwo different ones. Three if you count his actions in the one where that universes' phoenix destroyed that universe.
Didn't Wolverine kill pretty much all heroes on Earth in a What-If?
Yes, that hairy midget can be held partly responsible for the destruction of a universe.
