cause flash is concerned with something else, isin't running at his top speed, and batman can lead the target to hit him using he skills.. SKILLS being the major word. batman's gone toe to toe with at least 4 or 5 different villains that take down flash using his skills to avoid getting hit... flash at full speed is a different story...
this however has nothing to do with hulk.
Originally posted by jinzinNot fair, flash should be looking at batman in slow motion jinzin. Batman has human reaction times and reflexes, therefore one can conclude that him and his weapons are slow enough for flash to feel the force coming at him and react.
cause flash is concerned with something else, isin't running at his top speed, and batman can lead the target to hit him using he skills.. SKILLS being the major word. batman's gone toe to toe with at least 4 or 5 different villains that take down flash using his skills to avoid getting hit... flash at full speed is a different story...this however has nothing to do with hulk.
Furthermore, if I wave my hand in my face its a blur, so batman concentrating and consistently hitting flash is still pis whilst consistant.
Originally posted by jinzin
that's not how the fight ended at all... it ended with him uprooting a tree and taking a swing at wolverine with wolverine casually dodging the tree and then te fight got intereupted.... it was a stalemate... I remember the kick to the face and the hit to wolverine off of him which was the third? anywho... even if he did hit wolvie with the tree I don't see it being any more effective than when hulk did it... mind you hulk had a friggin redwood at his disposal....
Casually dodging? You saw Wolverine's face on that pic? He clearly got hit.
Originally posted by jinzin
probably about the same as wehn he COULD fly... a bloody mess... 🙄
How?
Originally posted by jinzin
don't know it off the top of my head... i think it had all the defenders with red in the background on the cover though...
So no proof.
Originally posted by jinzin
i didn't say I think spiderman can take namor did I? i said the guy can hold his own... and he can... as far as I'm aware namors not going to be fresh out of water level during 100% of this fight, so yes it COULD still be a factor here... meh..as far as dd goes I said he put up a decent struggle for a human being.. they have thrown down twice now...
No. He is going to be fresh out from water at the beginning. And he is going to punch Wolverine to the next state with an punch that can send Hulk flying back to the shore and revert back to Banner. I think Wolverine lying twenty miles away uncounsious counts as an win to Namor...
Originally posted by jinzin
capjk posted the issue number about half a dozen times when he was here, but I'm not about to do dig through the entirety of KMC just to find it..sorry.
No proof either then.
Originally posted by jinzin
the hell are you talking about? I post fights beginning to end...period.. and I DID say HOW he would win... he stabs him, cuts of his arms, head, etc... 🙄
And Namor will stand in one place when he trys to stab him... 😂
And what about this:
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerHere is how the fight goes. Namor, straight from water, flews half a mile away, speeds toward earthbound Wolverine, and smashes him with one Hulk-dropping punch and sends Wolverine flying 20 miles to the next state. Since I believe we follow some kind of laws of gravity here, it is instant win for Namor.
Try to counter that.
No, I don't think Wolverine is going to dodge Namor coming at subsonic speeds to him.
Originally posted by jinzinIn a match adhering to KMC rules?
to the flash thing: dude, like you said flash needs to see batman first... batman's usually able to secure a position where flash can't find him..
I feel like wolverine should tag people he should tag, like hulk should ko people he should.
I'm not trying to discredit you, but balance it out rather.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Casually dodging? You saw Wolverine's face on that pic? He clearly got hit.
by the tree? the hell he did... you need to take another look at the last panal in that fight cause namor hit nothing but air...
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerit's in the comics I know it's happened.. a few people have commented on the incident I'm not about to go buy a bunch of random new defenders comics to prove myself.. I'm ALWAYS the one who's supplying proof on these damned threads... It gets old...
So no proof.
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerhulks punch wolverine accross states and wolverine just got back up.... hell wolverine got back up from a tyrannus punch..the same guy who downed hulk in 3 hits..
No. He is going to be fresh out from water at the beginning. And he is going to punch Wolverine to the next state with an punch that can send Hulk flying back to the shore and revert back to Banner. I think Wolverine lying twenty miles away uncounsious counts as an win to Namor...
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
No proof either then.
sure there is.. I just don't feel like navigating a bunch of old ass posts to find it... but I'm not the only one that knows about this incident it's been posted on plenty of different forums including this one...
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
No, I don't think Wolverine is going to dodge Namor coming at subsonic speeds to him.
speed demon, quicksilver, speedball, ogun, storm, rogue, and oh hey 😱 NAMOR!
Originally posted by jinzin
by the tree? the hell he did... you need to take another look at the last panal in that fight cause namor hit nothing but air...
Ok, I looked at it, and you were right.
Originally posted by jinzin
it's in the comics I know it's happened.. a few people have commented on the incident I'm not about to go buy a bunch of random new defenders comics to prove myself.. I'm ALWAYS the one who's supplying proof on these damned threads... It gets old...
Oh yeah, like I haven't supported proofs...
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
1. Breaks through the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak, WHILE ON LAND, knocking out Doctor Strange.http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/5821/namorfeat12bo.gif
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/4775/namorfeat23wb.gif
2. Dodges an attack coming at him in Mach speeds.
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/9045/namorfeat34ek.gif
3. Resists Human Torch who is as hot as Sun (nova), and carries him to water to save his life.
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/9233/namorfeat41zp.gif
4. Defeats Captain America and knocks Giant Man out with his shield.
http://img313.imageshack.us/img313/2183/namorfeat87yv.gif
5. Dodges multiple lasers fired at him.
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/7484/namorfeat92mc.gif
6. Is freed from dozens of tons of ice after he has gained only few drops of water.
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/5364/namorfeat177fq.gif
7. Holds his breath for minutes in space.
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/9325/namorfeat187nk.gif
8. Defeats Sunfire, showing amazing mobility in air.
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4434/namorfeat211qk.gif
9. Lifts fully loaded tanker (about 110,000 tons without any load, nearly 200,000 with load)
http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/2802/namorfeat220rx.gif
10. Lifts an WWII destroyer that weighs somewhere between 2000-3000 tons and slams it into Attuma with ease.
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/4655/hulk1998p266qo.jpg
11. Defeats Hulk the first time.
http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/7674/avengers003173hf.jpg
12. Absorbs millions of volts of electricity and discharges it against Hulk.
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/2784/namorfeat235rn.gif
13. Absorbs an blast from Presence that send Hulk flying, like it was nothing.
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/9879/namorfeat241uq.gif
14. While being held down by Magneto's power, Namor slams his fists to the ground and makes an impact that causes the entire island to quiver.
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/9995/namorfeat255ii.gif
15. During an underwater collision, Namor hits Hulk so hard that he flies miles back to the shore and reverts back to Banner. The impact also creates massive tsunamis and earthquakes.
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/2563/incrediblehulk118187ji.jpg
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/3936/incrediblehulk118195ly.jpg
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/9269/incrediblehulk118200el.jpg
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4384/incrediblehulk118211kg.jpg
16. During a fight against mind-controlled Hulk, Namor creates a massive tidal wave that wipes out an entire island and knocks out Hulk on the same time.
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/8007/namorfeat265gs.gif
17. Namor has radar sense similar to cave fish, and he is able to locate Invisible Woman with no effort.
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/3685/namor24bc.gif
18. Namor takes a equilavent of miniature nuke straight into face (He was holding it) and is only minorly stunned. The impact hurled him into sea.
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/6527/namorfeat295yp.gif
19. Namor drills through tons of hard sea rock by spinning his body at tremendous speeds.
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/6544/namorfeat302xn.gif
20. Apocalypse runs away from Namor.
http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorvspoccy15yy.jpg
http://img104.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorvspoccy23ei.jpg
http://img104.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorvspoccy35qm.jpg
http://img104.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorvspoccy49pc.jpg
http://img104.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorvspoccy53gj.jpg
21. Namor speedblitzes a monster who Plant Man has created while carrying Triton in his hand.
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/6113/namorfeat314gc.gif
22. Carries a 50 ton anchor in his right hand.
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/9785/namorfeat324hl.gif
23. Throws a metal vat that weighs at least five tons and thows it at the monster with blinding speeds.
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/3470/namorfeat335vj.gif
24. Throws the anchor together with Triton, making it go very fast.
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8383/namorfeat355ag.gif
25. Swims at speeds "Beyond belief", and makes a whirpool that takes the metallic cylinders out from sea.
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1133/namorfeat341pp.gif
26. Namor (Heroes Reborn) takes direct head shot from Thor's thrown Mjolnir. The shot is so strong that it levels the ground they are standing on, but Namor isn't even knocked out.
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2039/namorfeat367wt.gif
27. Namor lifts an submarine (weighing about 200 tons) and places it safely to shore.
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/6982/namorfeat375df.gif
28. Namor lifts an 50 ton tank with one hand and throws it hard enough to hit a flying Boeing 747 that Iron Man is on. WHILE ON LAND.
http://img290.imageshack.us/img290/7325/namorfeat393lr.gif
29. Namor fights Silver Surfer:
http://img64.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorvssurfer14qo.jpg
http://img64.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorvssurfer29cq.jpg
http://img202.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorvssurfer36xl.jpg
30. Namor captures the ship of Krang and stops it in it's tracks.
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3853/namorfeat404mw.gif
31. Namor THROWS an SEASHELL so hard, that it becomes as destructive as artillery shell. Under the sea.
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/9493/namorfeat413yn.gif
32. Here is few examples of Namor's flight and superspeed.
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/7403/namorspeedfeats4wj.gif
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/8922/namorspeedfeat27uj.gif
*whew*
Originally posted by jinzin
hulks punch wolverine accross states and wolverine just got back up.... hell wolverine got back up from a tyrannus punch..the same guy who downed hulk in 3 hits..
I suppose that you don't have these comics either?
Or even the isssue numbers, so I can get them myself? 😕
Originally posted by jinzin
sure there is.. I just don't feel like navigating a bunch of old ass posts to find it... but I'm not the only one that knows about this incident it's been posted on plenty of different forums including this one...
Yes...so you don't want to supply your claims with actual facts.
Originally posted by jinzin
speed demon, quicksilver, speedball, ogun, storm, rogue, and oh hey 😱 NAMOR!
Speed Demon: Can't go as fast as Namor
Quicksilver (Old school)= Same
Speedball = Same
Ogun = Don't know how fast he is.
Storm = I'm sure that he had half a mile to catch speed. 🙄
Rogue = Same
Dodging Namor going at subsonic speeds = In your dreams! 😱
If he would be so fast, why can normal people hit Wolverine?
whats to stop wolverine from simply sticking his hands out and stabbing an incoming namor? namor doesn't exactly have precog or anything so if he's going that fast he'll be nboned by his own momentum...
as far as the new defenders issue.. I used to have it but it was one of the comics that took a hit in a flood at my house along with my ff's, darkhawks, avengers, and wolverines... 🙁
like I said.. i have no interest in going to but them all again just to suit your need for proof... (which why you doubt me I still don't know... it's not like namor's exactly been shown to be invulnerable to wolverine's claw strikes, why it's so hard to believe that he backed off wolverine after wolvie after wolverine took a swing at him is beyond me...
the cap one.. if you want to see it so bad go look through all of capjk's old posts... it's not as if the feats I post ever get accounted for anything anyways...
wolverine's also had enough speed to react to an incoming stealth bomber and ogun's a level 7 in speed...
whats to stop wolverine from simply sticking his hands out and stabbing an incoming namor? namor doesn't exactly have precog or anything so if he's going that fast he'll be nboned by his own momentum...
Originally posted by jinzinwolverine's also had enough speed to react to an incoming stealth bomber and ogun's a level 7 in speed...
How did he react to the stealth bomber?
And if you really think that Wolverine is capable of reacting something that moves with warp speed...
🤨
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Ok, I looked at it, and you were right.Oh yeah, like I haven't supported proofs...
[quote="DarkCrawler"]
1. Breaks through the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak, WHILE ON LAND, knocking out Doctor Strange.http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/5821/namorfeat12bo.gif
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/4775/namorfeat23wb.gif
2. Dodges an attack coming at him in Mach speeds.
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/9045/namorfeat34ek.gif
3. Resists Human Torch who is as hot as Sun (nova), and carries him to water to save his life.
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/9233/namorfeat41zp.gif
4. Defeats Captain America and knocks Giant Man out with his shield.
http://img313.imageshack.us/img313/2183/namorfeat87yv.gif
5. Dodges multiple lasers fired at him.
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/7484/namorfeat92mc.gif
6. Is freed from dozens of tons of ice after he has gained only few drops of water.
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/5364/namorfeat177fq.gif
7. Holds his breath for minutes in space.
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/9325/namorfeat187nk.gif
8. Defeats Sunfire, showing amazing mobility in air.
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4434/namorfeat211qk.gif
9. Lifts fully loaded tanker (about 110,000 tons without any load, nearly 200,000 with load)
http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/2802/namorfeat220rx.gif
10. Lifts an WWII destroyer that weighs somewhere between 2000-3000 tons and slams it into Attuma with ease.
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/4655/hulk1998p266qo.jpg
11. Defeats Hulk the first time.
http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/7674/avengers003173hf.jpg
12. Absorbs millions of volts of electricity and discharges it against Hulk.
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/2784/namorfeat235rn.gif
13. Absorbs an blast from Presence that send Hulk flying, like it was nothing.
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/9879/namorfeat241uq.gif
14. While being held down by Magneto's power, Namor slams his fists to the ground and makes an impact that causes the entire island to quiver.
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/9995/namorfeat255ii.gif
15. During an underwater collision, Namor hits Hulk so hard that he flies miles back to the shore and reverts back to Banner. The impact also creates massive tsunamis and earthquakes.
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/2563/incrediblehulk118187ji.jpg
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/3936/incrediblehulk118195ly.jpg
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/9269/incrediblehulk118200el.jpg
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4384/incrediblehulk118211kg.jpg
16. During a fight against mind-controlled Hulk, Namor creates a massive tidal wave that wipes out an entire island and knocks out Hulk on the same time.
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/8007/namorfeat265gs.gif
17. Namor has radar sense similar to cave fish, and he is able to locate Invisible Woman with no effort.
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/3685/namor24bc.gif
18. Namor takes a equilavent of miniature nuke straight into face (He was holding it) and is only minorly stunned. The impact hurled him into sea.
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/6527/namorfeat295yp.gif
19. Namor drills through tons of hard sea rock by spinning his body at tremendous speeds.
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/6544/namorfeat302xn.gif
20. Apocalypse runs away from Namor.
http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorvspoccy15yy.jpg
http://img104.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorvspoccy23ei.jpg
http://img104.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorvspoccy35qm.jpg
http://img104.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorvspoccy49pc.jpg
http://img104.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorvspoccy53gj.jpg
21. Namor speedblitzes a monster who Plant Man has created while carrying Triton in his hand.
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/6113/namorfeat314gc.gif
22. Carries a 50 ton anchor in his right hand.
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/9785/namorfeat324hl.gif
23. Throws a metal vat that weighs at least five tons and thows it at the monster with blinding speeds.
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/3470/namorfeat335vj.gif
24. Throws the anchor together with Triton, making it go very fast.
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8383/namorfeat355ag.gif
25. Swims at speeds "Beyond belief", and makes a whirpool that takes the metallic cylinders out from sea.
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1133/namorfeat341pp.gif
26. Namor (Heroes Reborn) takes direct head shot from Thor's thrown Mjolnir. The shot is so strong that it levels the ground they are standing on, but Namor isn't even knocked out.
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2039/namorfeat367wt.gif
27. Namor lifts an submarine (weighing about 200 tons) and places it safely to shore.
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/6982/namorfeat375df.gif
28. Namor lifts an 50 ton tank with one hand and throws it hard enough to hit a flying Boeing 747 that Iron Man is on. WHILE ON LAND.
http://img290.imageshack.us/img290/7325/namorfeat393lr.gif
29. Namor fights Silver Surfer:
http://img64.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorvssurfer14qo.jpg
http://img64.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorvssurfer29cq.jpg
http://img202.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorvssurfer36xl.jpg
30. Namor captures the ship of Krang and stops it in it's tracks.
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3853/namorfeat404mw.gif
31. Namor THROWS an SEASHELL so hard, that it becomes as destructive as artillery shell. Under the sea.
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/9493/namorfeat413yn.gif
32. Here is few examples of Namor's flight and superspeed.
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/7403/namorspeedfeats4wj.gif
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/8922/namorspeedfeat27uj.gif
*whew*
I suppose that you don't have these comics either?
Or even the isssue numbers, so I can get them myself? 😕
Yes...so you don't want to supply your claims with actual facts.
Speed Demon: Can't go as fast as Namor
Quicksilver (Old school)= Same
Speedball = Same
Ogun = Don't know how fast he is.
Storm = I'm sure that he had half a mile to catch speed. 🙄
Rogue = Same
Dodging Namor going at subsonic speeds = In your dreams! 😱
If he would be so fast, why can normal people hit Wolverine? [/QUOTE]
Some of those feats look quite recent aswell.... my respect for namor has significantly increased. 🙂
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
No, but he has superhuman reflexes. he can just extend his fist and punch Wolverine in the head.
wait...are you seriousl implying namor to have range on wolverine in terms of arms length? 🤨
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
How did he react to the stealth bomber?
he just got out of water after being submerged for a long time... he turned around and was about to dodge the incoming stealth then another distraction allowed for him to be hit by it.. doesn't change th fact that without the distraction wolverine would have been able to moe out of it's way... hell even after being hit by it he just got up....no biggie...
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
And if you really think that Wolverine is capable of reacting something that moves with warp speed...🤨
it's not based on what I THINK I'm basing it off of what he's proven to do consistently... I'm sorry you disagree, whether or not wolverine's a bs character isn't the issue here though...what's important is that he's done things that make namor (sad to say) not too much of an obsticle to overcome IMO... (including stalemating namor on one occasion and beating him the next...)... wolverine can afford to make some mistakes and takea lot of namor shots without going down... can namor say the same? no, not from what I've seen...he can't.
Originally posted by jinzin
wait...are you seriousl implying namor to have range on wolverine in terms of arms length? 🤨
Originally posted by jinzin
he just got out of water after being submerged for a long time... he turned around and was about to dodge the incoming stealth then another distraction allowed for him to be hit by it.. doesn't change th fact that without the distraction wolverine would have been able to moe out of it's way... hell even after being hit by it he just got up....no biggie...
Ok.
Originally posted by jinzin
it's not based on what I THINK I'm basing it off of what he's proven to do consistently... I'm sorry you disagree, whether or not wolverine's a bs character isn't the issue here though...what's important is that he's done things that make namor (sad to say) not too much of an obsticle to overcome IMO... (including stalemating namor on one occasion and beating him the next...)... wolverine can afford to make some mistakes and takea lot of namor shots without going down... can namor say the same? no, not from what I've seen...he can't.
What is he doing in this picture, then? http://img389.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorvswolv29zn.gif
And he can also DODGE the shots.
http://img389.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorvswolv36ud.gif
Wolverine's arms aren't moving with the speed of sound...
So...Wolverine is able to react to lightspeed attacks...wouldn't that make him defeat Flash?
And no, I still can't believe that Wolverine will take an punch that sends Hulk flying miles and stay in one place. Laws of gravity apply to him too...
