Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Indeed. Jack is pretty much at the top of sword fighters as far as mortals are concerned. The people in Bleach don't "sword fight", they take there swords and make one or two heavy strikes, then stop and laugh then use a power. Naruto pretty much doesn't use any swords either, so it'd come down to Kenshin and Jack.. and it's already been decided that Jack would win.
Yeah, but in terms of actual skill, I would have to place Kenshin above Jack. Kenshin mostly uses actual techniques, whereas Jack just has a really powerful sword, and when he fights, it seems more like he is just swinging his sword around wildly at enemies. Also, Kenshin is not the most skilled sword fighter in his series. If you have read the previous post, it is clear that he is a little bit below the skill levels of Shishio and Hiko.
I would say that even in the context of Rurouni Kenshin, Hiko, Shishio, and Soujiro could be convincingly argued to be better fighters than Kenshin.
In all anime, I'd say Kyo from Samurai Deeper Kyo; but it's sort of an unfair contest, because whereas Rurouni Kenshin tries to pretend to not be overtly supernatural ("He doesn't have a magical tracking sword! It's uh ... magnets." "He can't double jump in mid-air, he ... uh ... pushes off of his sword!"😉, Samurai Deeper Kyo makes no such pretenses.
Originally posted by ensatsu-kenAre you looney? Jack's whole childhood was based on learning to fight so he could face Aku, who is a god! He with a sword defeats armies, despite being in a futuristic timeline with guns, lasers, and shit.
Yeah, but in terms of actual skill, I would have to place Kenshin above Jack. Kenshin mostly uses actual techniques, whereas Jack just has a really powerful sword, and when he fights, it seems more like he is just swinging his sword around wildly at enemies. Also, Kenshin is not the most skilled sword fighter in his series. If you have read the previous post, it is clear that he is a little bit below the skill levels of Shishio and Hiko.
Mos def. That's just the way the illustrator draws. The guy who drew up Samurai Jack also did the drawing for the Star Wars: CLone Wars cartoon series, and Oni-Wan, Anakin, and all the other Jedi fought the same way Jack does, even though it's a proven fact that Jedi don't fight using just horizontal and vertical strikes.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Are you looney? Jack's whole childhood was based on learning to fight so he could face Aku, who is a god! He with a sword defeats armies, despite being in a futuristic timeline with guns, lasers, and shit.
You also forgot to mention that he has a sword which can cut through almost anything 😛 . He was trained during all of his childhood, but if you watch him actually fight, he hardly shows any technique in his fighting. Besides, I don't really consider Samurai Jack to be an anime (in the western context of the word), because it is a cartoon that was originally aired in America, and dubbed in English. To me, anime is animation produced in Easter Asia "for a general Japanese audience, as the primary target of the show" (since there are plenty of USAnimated shows that have been animated in places like Korea, and China). In those respects, Jack wouldn't even count in this thread, because the forum which this topic is in, is specifically for "manga and anime" 😉 .
Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Mos def. That's just the way the illustrator draws. The guy who drew up Samurai Jack also did the drawing for the Star Wars: CLone Wars cartoon series, and Oni-Wan, Anakin, and all the other Jedi fought the same way Jack does, even though it's a proven fact that Jedi don't fight using just horizontal and vertical strikes.
The Jedi have a cool style of sword fighting with their lightsabers, but they also don't use any specific technique, and in a sense, just swing their swords around wildly and ferociously (especially in the Star Wars games Movies; and I have seen most of the Clone Wars cartoon as well, and its not really what I would call technique). Just because Kenshin isn't as strong as Jack or any Jedi, does not mean that he loses to them in terms of skill, which he actually shows that he has more of, through his various techniques, that aren't just simply swinging a sword around.
Originally posted by ensatsu-kenReally? What about his prolonged swordfight against that guardian of the time thingy(You know, that big blue guy) who was stronger, faster, and more skilled than Jack, yet Jack still stood his ground against him, and even tho he lost, the guardian was so impressed by his skill he let him live on to fight him another day. If Jack really just swung his sword around wildly, I COULD KILL HIM, and a god like Aku certainly would. You are assuming Kenshin has more technique only because he actually has names for specific attacks, guess what buddy? That is not the way real swordsmanship works, you do not yell out HITEN MITSURUGI STYLE: BLAHBLAH! That is not skill, in fact it is just stupid. Also, I cannot believe you just claimed SW characters have poor swordskills, they would kill Kenshin in a swordfight. Jedi and Sith actually have 7 different forms of saber combat. Just because Kenshin has names for his moves(which are simple moves for the most part) does not make him more skilled with a sword.
You also forgot to mention that he has a sword which can cut through almost anything 😛 . He was trained during all of his childhood, but if you watch him actually fight, he hardly shows any technique in his fighting. Besides, I don't really consider Samurai Jack to be an anime (in the western context of the word), because it is a cartoon that was originally aired in America, and dubbed in English. To me, anime is animation produced in Easter Asia "for a general Japanese audience, as the primary target of the show" (since there are plenty of USAnimated shows that have been animated in places like Korea, and China). In those respects, Jack wouldn't even count in this thread, because the forum which this topic is in, is specifically for "manga and anime" 😉 .
I'm sorry, but when it comes to sword skill Kenshin gets stomped by Caerula Sanguis. She only has slightly enhanced strength,and a very perceptive eye ability, but her main ability is simple pure combat skill. She's over 800 years old, knows every single martial arts style, and says that she in fact founded several of them. She's deflects bullets with ease, and her style primarily focuses around forcing her opponent into a preset trap, and is described as manipulating martial artists who make just about any comic book martial artist look weak like puppets on a string.