Originally posted by ensatsu-kenKurogasa beat Kenshin's ass even while he was at half Battosai, Kenshin had to go full Battosai to beat him. I would put Kurogasa above Aoshi.
Only Jin'eh could do that, and I don't remember ever calling him skilled (even though he was somewhat skilled, to the point in which he could easily take out 3 armed men before they drew their guns; but that's nothing, even in the RK universe 😉 ).
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Kurogasa beat Kenshin's ass even while he was at half Battosai, Kenshin had to go full Battosai to beat him. I would put Kurogasa above Aoshi.
Considering how well Aoshi did when he fought Kenshin after Kenshin's training with Hiko, I would put him definitively above Jin'eh, at least once he starts using two swords instead of one.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Kurogasa beat Kenshin's ass even while he was at half Battosai, Kenshin had to go full Battosai to beat him. I would put Kurogasa above Aoshi.
Well I would agree with you if it was Aoshi with only 1 kodachi. However Kenshin had to use his new move which he attained from his teacher Hiko, to take down Aoshi. And as for whose stronger among swordsmen, Saito own both Jin'eh and Aoshi 😛 . And Hiko is the strongest/most skilled swordsman in all of the RK Universe, as far as I'm concerned 😎 .
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Shishio is the strongest and most skilled in RKverse, that is fact.
He is the second most skilled. It is in fact Hiko who is the most skilled. Why he did not go to defeat Shisio himself, I do not know, but the fact that Shishio uses the ability of his weapon to ignite in flames, to his advantage in battle, makes me see him as less skilled in actual sword skills than Hiko. I would say that he is about equal to how skilled Kenshin was, back when he was the battousai.
Originally posted by ensatsu-kenWait a minute, am I forgetting who Hiko is? Remind me.
He is the second most skilled. It is in fact Hiko who is the most skilled. Why he did not go to defeat Shisio himself, I do not know, but the fact that Shishio uses the ability of his weapon to ignite in flames, to his advantage in battle, makes me see him as less skilled in actual sword skills than Hiko. I would say that he is about equal to how skilled Kenshin was, back when he was the battousai.
Originally posted by ensatsu-kenOh yeah. Kenshin beat Hiko, and could not defeat Shishio, Shishio died because his body got too hot if memory serves me right.
Kenshin's teacher/master. He trained Kenshin, and taught him everything he knew about swordsmanship. He was the dude that blocked the full force punch of a 20 foot tall man. Remember?
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Oh yeah. Kenshin beat Hiko, and could not defeat Shishio, Shishio died because his body got too hot if memory serves me right.
Kenshin never beat Hiko. Hiko was training him, and therefore was holding back in a sense. He wasn't truly fighting Kenshin with all of his skill, since he was trying to teach him a new technique. I mean, he probably would not have done so under normal circumstances, but Kenshin was kind of in a hurry. Besides, I recall Kenshin saying himself that Hiko was "the ultimate master of the Hiten Mitsurugi style" (considering that he was the only other person alive, besdies Kenshin, who knew the ways of that sword style). And yeah, Shishio could not fight for more than 15 minutes, and lost because he had exceeded his limit.
Originally posted by ensatsu-ken
He is the second most skilled. It is in fact Hiko who is the most skilled. Why he did not go to defeat Shisio himself, I do not know, but the fact that Shishio uses the ability of his weapon to ignite in flames, to his advantage in battle, makes me see him as less skilled in actual sword skills than Hiko. I would say that he is about equal to how skilled Kenshin was, back when he was the battousai.
Originally posted by King KandyAgreed.
Are you kidding me? Shishio took on Aoshi, Sonosuke, Saito, and Kenshin all at once and was WINNING until his body overheated. He was hurting Kenshin WAY more then Kenshin was hurting him, and he blocked Kenshin's ultimate attack. He didn't block the second cut, but that was total BS (An air Vortex? WTF?)
Originally posted by King Kandy
Are you kidding me? Shishio took on Aoshi, Sonosuke, Saito, and Kenshin all at once and was WINNING until his body overheated. He was hurting Kenshin WAY more then Kenshin was hurting him, and he blocked Kenshin's ultimate attack. He didn't block the second cut, but that was total BS (An air Vortex? WTF?)
On the other hand, Aoshi had just taken Kenshin's ultimate attack head on, Kenshin had fought Aoshi and Soujiro, and Sanosuke was injured fighting Anji; the only one who wasn't badly injurred before even meeting Shishio was Saitou, whose fight I seem to remember as being pretty one-sided. If Shishio fought Kenshin when Kenshin hadn't just had to deal with two of the other greatest swordsmen in the RK universe...? It's hard to say, even if I gave the nod to Shishio in an earlier post. (And the air vortex is no more BS than Shishio's fire techniques, IMO)