Sora Bulq and Cin Drallig versus OT Vader

Sora Bulq and Cin Drallig versus OT Vader, the battle takes place on Invisible Hand, where Dooku fought Obi-Wan and Anakin Skywalker.

1. Saber battle

2. Force battle

3. An all out fight

For the poll, vote only for what you think would happen in an all out fight, i just want to know, what you think about the first two.

1. The duo pwns him. Individually, either of them could put up a good to great fight against him. Cin was trained by Yoda, was a legendary battlemaster, and a name brought up by Dooku when he was trying to teach Grievous a lightsaber lesson. That stuff doesn't come lightly. As for Sora, he viewed himself as stronger than any Jedi, of course, that doesn't mean that he was, but he wasn't Dooku's right hand man for nothing, and when he fought Mace Windu he put up a good fight. K'Kruhk (or was it Jeisel?) even said that they thought Sora and Mace were equal.

2. The duo wins. Vader could probably take either of them alone (I say probably because Cin's Force Skills are unknown). However, Sora can use Force Lightning, so while Cin is attacking Vader, Sora will shoot lightning at Vader and fry him.

3. The duo. As previously stated, Sora gave Windu a good fight and was stated by one Jedi as being even with Windu. And Cin's got to be about on Sora's level. Vader is stronger, but not strong enough to take out two legends at once.

1. Team 1 wins, but no pwmage.
2. Close, but I lean towards vader.
3. Depends.

2. Close, but I lean towards vader.

What? How, when Sora has lightning>

3. Depends.

Depends on what?

Originally posted by darthsith19
What? How, when Sora has lightning>

Depends on what?

In the all out fight, it depends on whether the fight would go mainly into a saber duel or a force duel. It can go either way.

Originally posted by darthsith19
What? How, when Sora has lightning>

Or bastila shan on the SF.

Or even R2 could pwn vader for that matter

Ya, sora has lightning. But as debated many times before, everyone who has lightning doesn't automatically become>vader in the force. It depends on who strike first. In general, vader still>them in the force. If he can force crush sora first(or both of them), then he llikely wins. Actually it would be a very close battle I think.

In the all out fight, it depends on whether the fight would go mainly into a saber duel or a force duel. It can go either way.

You know darth sith, you have unbelievablely horrible logic. Anybody who has lightning > vader, i guess the nightsisters of dathomir are even more powerful than vader seeing that they have lightning,

Originally posted by darthsith19
I agree, but don't forget, this is Sora and Cin. How is Vader going to block the lightning and Cin's attacks at the same time?

What if Sora starts shooting lightning at Vader right away and Vader is blocking it with his saber, then Cin runs over and starts attacking Vader? Anyways, Vader has always been seen to engage his opponent(s) with a saber before he uses the Force on him.

As in the all out fight, yes, I said it can go either way. So, team 1 can win if they have good teamwork. If they have bad teamwork, vader can win also.

EDIT

darthsith19, you make it sound like a force user could never defeat two other force users simply because as he defends against one's attacks, he'll be open to the other's. Ever heard of defending against both at the same time by any chance?

Originally posted by Proteus
darthsith19, you make it sound like a force user could never defeat two other force users simply because as he defends against one's attacks, he'll be open to the other's. Ever heard of defending against both at the same time by any chance?

It is possible, but has it ever happened?

Can't really think right now, but you rarely get a defence which would just focus on one attack. The nature of the force shield for instance is that it protects the user with an intangible shield against the force, energy and physical attacks, meaning that as long as there's nothing overpowering the shield, the number of attacks used at the same time is irrelevant. Sure, it would be harder to defend against two at once, but not impossible. I would think that Vader's vast superiority over either Sora or Cin in the force would grant him the ability to defend against both at the same time.

And can Vader even block lightning with the Force?

Pretty sure he can't, but he has his lightsaber.

Pretty sure he can't, but he has his lightsaber.

What good is lightning if you're being choked out?

The lightsaber can't even be used for defence in a force duel? Cheap disadvantage for Vader if you ask me.

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
What good is lightning if you're being choked out?

The lightsaber can't even be used for defence in a force duel? Cheap disadvantage for Vader if you ask me.

That's assuming that Vader intended for Ozzel to die a quick death.

Originally posted by darthsith19
Well, it takes three minutes for you to die from lack of oxygen - people have said that Force Choke works faster, but it took about twnety seconds for Ozzel to hit the ground. So okay, lets say Vader Force Chokes Sora, during those twenty seconds, Sora could be zapping Vader, and Cin could be attacking Vader. So the Force Choke wouldn't be very effective, would it?

Who's to say that he cant snap the neck of an opponent, killing them instantly? It'd be no different than moving an object right?

Originally posted by darthsith19
Of course not - if you were using a lightsaber then it wouldn't really be a Force duel, would it?

Ok, so what, Vader can't choke two people at once?

And you mean to tell me for a FACT, that Sora can maintain composure for 20 agonizing seconds and pull off an advanced force technique?

And what would Cin be attacking Vader with, hope and dreams?

What can he do as a lightsider? Push...pull...what?

Who's to say that Vader can't pull off two separate attacks simultaneously? He can choke one person and go on having conversations with other people as if the person being choked wasn't even there. I think that someone of Vader's caliber can focus and has the power to pull off dual attacks.

Who's to say that he cant snap the neck of an opponent, killing them instantly? It'd be no different than moving an object right?

Originally posted by darthsith19
He can't until it's proven that he can.

And theres this scan which i find ambiguous,

1) He could have either force waved them but seeing that their corpses are just a feet or 2 away from them, i doubt it

2) Instantly crushing 10 of them with the force after using TK to lift them and suspend them

Originally posted by darthsith19

Since when was Force Lightning an "advanced Force tecnhique"? iQuinlan Vos usedit when possied off having never beent rained with it. Bane destroyed a room with it an hour after it was taught to him. Yes, Sora can use it, so what if he is being choked? Give em a gun and start strangeling me, I can still shoot you.

And vader can execute a force crush which immobalises its victims immediately seeing that it isnt on one part of your body but your whole structure

Originally posted by darthsith19

With the Force, dummy.

Originally posted by darthsith19

It's in the Invisible Hand. He could chuck Vader out a window after breaking it with an object, drop the catwalk on him, whatever. The point is, he can attack Vader.

Originally posted by darthsith19

Thinking he can doesn't mean shit. You have to prove that he can choke two Force Sensitives at once for it to be true.

Darthsith back to "You have to prove this, you have to prove that" when you have yet to actually prove anything?

Originally posted by darthsith19

He ca if you prove that he can. Otherwise I could just say that Cin could snap Vader's neck first.

Prove up or shut up, You have sources you better name them, quote them. Now