Sargares vs A Elder God

Originally posted by Burning thought
their whole damn race your speaking off counts up to only 7 known beings...and nothing from what ive seen so far states their whole race battled them, it always says "the titans" this does not neccerily mean the whole race, and even if it was the whole race, nothings to assume the titans greatly outnumbers the old gods.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Considering that there are 7 leader Titans and only 5 Old Gods, yeah they do outnumber them. The Titan race consists of more than 7 dudes mane. Old Gods>Titans.

it does, by the way your acting your trying to say they massively outnumber them, the titans logically prboably max 10/15 in number, VS 5 Old Gods who are each more powerful, 4 elemental leutenants and the entire armies of the old Gods which shouldnt be immedialtey assumed as weak and cannon fodder.

Originally posted by Burning thought
it does, by the way your acting your trying to say they massively outnumber them, the titans logically prboably max 10/15 in number, VS 5 Old Gods who are each more powerful, 4 elemental leutenants and the entire armies of the old Gods which shouldnt be immedialtey assumed as weak and cannon fodder.

because their massive things, if your saying the entire race of them is attacking the Gods then they wouldnt all fit on the planet if there was too many of them..

its a good assumption considering we only know 7 of them. Whats your logical assumption? theres like zomg 1000 titans fighting the 5 Gods or sum madness? wouldnt surprise me lol

Originally posted by Burning thought
because their massive things, if your saying the entire race of them is attacking the Gods then they wouldnt all fit on the planet if there was too many of them..

its a good assumption considering we only know 7 of them. Whats your logical assumption? theres like zomg 1000 titans fighting the 5 Gods or sum madness? wouldnt surprise me lol

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Titans can change size dude. Yeah, that sounds about right, I mean, even tho all the elementals below lieutenant were weak in comparison, there's alot of them lol.

Out of interest

How do you know that the other elementals was so much weaker then the lieutenants and how do you know that the previous shown Picture wasn't a result from a battle between a lone Titan and a single Old God???

Originally posted by Utrigita
Out of interest

How do you know that the other elementals was so much weaker then the lieutenants and how do you know that the previous shown Picture wasn't a result from a battle between a lone Titan and a single Old God???

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
The normal elementals can be summoned by players. 😐 As for the pic, how do you know it was not?

w8 a min your getting confused, your immiedatley assuming their the same elementals summoned by players....nothing states this, they could all be Ragnaros size only weaker for all we know...

Also as it says in the storyline, a titan battled with an old God, killed the Old God...but he himself Got terribly wounded, i think thats how it went

Originally posted by Burning thought
w8 a min your getting confused, your immiedatley assuming their the same elementals summoned by players....nothing states this, they could all be Ragnaros size only weaker for all we know...

Also as it says in the storyline, a titan battled with an old God, killed the Old God...but he himself Got terribly wounded, i think thats how it went

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Really? Can you provide some proof.

I believe in WoW you can get a quest from Onu makes this reference to the Master's Glaive holds the remains of an old God and the RPG also mentions that it's a Old God and the "remains" of a titan.

Also Brann Bronzebeard speculates that a Titan killed one of the Old Gods here.

So one Old God vs A single Titan apparently Stalemate.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
The normal elementals can be summoned by players. 😐 As for the pic, how do you know it was not?

But work this thought for a second okay...

Ragnaros has like only 2 % of his former glory left, it states to I believe in the Handbook. What if the same thing is to be said above the other elements that they are only shadows of what they once where. I think this would explain why the battle isn't as unfair as you think.

Originally posted by Utrigita
But work this thought for a second okay...

Ragnaros has like only 2 % of his former glory left, it states to I believe in the Handbook. What if the same thing is to be said above the other elements that they are only shadows of what they once where. I think this would explain why the battle isn't as unfair as you think.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
A 1,000 foot tall platinum skinned Titan is much greater than one normal elemental dude. I believe the Old Gods are more powerful than the Titans. Sarg may be able to kill one, but when you really think about it, how could we really know? The Old God Cthun is a mere shadow of its former self now, we have no idea how powerful it used to be.

It wasn't my intetion to try and put a single elemental against a titan but to show that the battle which you think is highly in the Titans favor because of there believed greater number isn't as unfair as you think.

Yes he is but the Old God that One Titan apperantly defeated wasn't a shadow. Also the Handbook says that it was the Pantheon the Elite of the Titans that scattered the Old Gods citadels and chained them beneath the earth. I'm not saying the Old Gods is weak, that the Titan choosed to chain them instead of outright kill them is a enourmes feat, Which would implicate that there power alone is so vast that it would take the Titans a massive use of Energy to defeat them all.

If one Old God can equal a Titan then I would also keep away from them.

Old Gods are cool, wish they could return to full strength

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
A 1,000 foot tall platinum skinned Titan is much greater than one normal elemental dude. I believe the Old Gods are more powerful than the Titans. Sarg may be able to kill one, but when you really think about it, how could we really know? The Old God Cthun is a mere shadow of its former self now, we have no idea how powerful it used to be.

No elemental can match one of the greater titans.. Ragnaros at prime could possibly match most of the normal titans heads up.. It wouldn't surprise me, as the war was mainly effected by the pantheon.. They were the titans with the true powers and Sargeras their champion..

And I dont believe there's any chance for players in WoW to be able to defeat an Old God at full strength..

As you said, Sargeras would possibly be able to take ONE down, if he doesn't hold back.. However, if this is pre-corruption he most likely will.. Pre-corrution know no evil, feel no evil and think no evil.. Therefore he'd try everything he can to imprison him and that would be his fall..

Post-Corrution powers would make him able to bring one down..

Originally posted by Utrigita
Its Sargares that wasn't corrupted and has his full sword also I would like this picture to be taken into consideration

http://www.wowwiki.com/Image😮ldgod.jpg

Also Violent2Dope you are forgetting that it wasn't just All the Titans vs 5 Old Gods, The Old Gods had there Elements to assist them, and they where extremely powerful entities to.

I dont think the none-corrupted Sargeras would be able to bring an Old God down.. As for the elementals, they were no factor for the Pantheon.. The lieutenants was the only ones that opposed any real threat..

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
No elemental can match one of the greater titans.. Ragnaros at prime could possibly match most of the normal titans heads up.. It wouldn't surprise me, as the war was mainly effected by the pantheon.. They were the titans with the true powers and Sargeras their champion..

And I dont believe there's any chance for players in WoW to be able to defeat an Old God at full strength..

As you said, Sargeras would possibly be able to take ONE down, if he doesn't hold back.. However, if this is pre-corruption he most likely will.. Pre-corrution know no evil, feel no evil and think no evil.. Therefore he'd try everything he can to imprison him and that would be his fall..

Post-Corrution powers would make him able to bring one down..

who knows about in WoW....i dont belive theres any real chance of players beating Illidan, Arthas, magtheridon realisticaly, but Blizz have done it, so...who knows what will be next

i think Sarg at his prime with full sword could certainly take one down, possibly with a little struggle but not much, he would have the ultimate weapon. Although an old god was brought down in the war and as far as we know none in the war were corrupted, altho this titan was also killed or mortally wounded wasnt it? does it say the parhanon alone battled against the old gods, that means that the gods were not that badly outnumbered, hell Titans were outnumbered if you include the weak elementals, the stronger leautenants and what not

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
I dont think the none-corrupted Sargeras would be able to bring an Old God down.. As for the elementals, they were no factor for the Pantheon.. The lieutenants was the only ones that opposed any real threat..

And yet he have a single Titan apparently slaying a Old God by himself and Sargares was One (if not the) strongest amongste the Titans.

Are we working with the assumption that it was the Pantheon vs Old Gods and lieutenants

I would think

Regular Titan vs Lieutenants

Pantheon vs Old Gods

and somehow a Old God and a regular Titan came across each other and fought to the death.

Originally posted by Burning thought
who knows about in WoW....i dont belive theres any real chance of players beating Illidan, Arthas, magtheridon realisticaly, but Blizz have done it, so...who knows what will be next

i think Sarg at his prime with full sword could certainly take one down, possibly with a little struggle but not much, he would have the ultimate weapon. Although an old god was brought down in the war and as far as we know none in the war were corrupted, altho this titan was also killed or mortally wounded wasnt it? does it say the parhanon alone battled against the old gods, that means that the gods were not that badly outnumbered, hell Titans were outnumbered if you include the weak elementals, the stronger leautenants and what not

Next they will fight Kil'jaeden and defeat him this is so lame, they are messing the entire warcraft universe up.

The Titan was killed.

But that would mean that a single Titan = A single Old God.

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
No elemental can match one of the greater titans.. Ragnaros at prime could possibly match most of the normal titans heads up.. It wouldn't surprise me, as the war was mainly effected by the pantheon.. They were the titans with the true powers and Sargeras their champion..

And I dont believe there's any chance for players in WoW to be able to defeat an Old God at full strength..

As you said, Sargeras would possibly be able to take ONE down, if he doesn't hold back.. However, if this is pre-corruption he most likely will.. Pre-corrution know no evil, feel no evil and think no evil.. Therefore he'd try everything he can to imprison him and that would be his fall..

Post-Corrution powers would make him able to bring one down..

Pre Corruption will not hold back he never did against the many races that he encountered he defeated them all and locked them away in the twised nether.

I think he will do the same thing here fight to defeat it and when its near death he will use his power to somehow contain it.

Sargares is possibly the strongest amongste the Titans.