Sargares vs A Elder God

Originally posted by Burning thought
who knows about in WoW....i dont belive theres any real chance of players beating Illidan, Arthas, magtheridon realisticaly, but Blizz have done it, so...who knows what will be next

i think Sarg at his prime with full sword could certainly take one down, possibly with a little struggle but not much, he would have the ultimate weapon. Although an old god was brought down in the war and as far as we know none in the war were corrupted, altho this titan was also killed or mortally wounded wasnt it? does it say the parhanon alone battled against the old gods, that means that the gods were not that badly outnumbered, hell Titans were outnumbered if you include the weak elementals, the stronger leautenants and what not

The pantheon wasn't alone.. But the other titans, just like the average elementals wasn't a big factor..

Originally posted by Utrigita
Pre Corruption will not hold back he never did against the many races that he encountered he defeated them all and locked them away in the twised nether.

I think he will do the same thing here fight to defeat it and when its near death he will use his power to somehow contain it.

Sargares is possibly the strongest amongste the Titans.

He imprisoned them.. He didn't slay them.. That's my point.. Sargeras pre-corrution isn't a murderous maniac.. And pre-corruption he didn't even know what powers he truly had, because it was a place in his mind he didn't dare to visit.. His blade helps him in the battle, but his mind is still a prison for his own powers..

And we dont know for sure how that Old God died.. Unless we get some solid proof, we cant really assume that it was a 1vs1 fight to the death.. We dont even know if the Old God was at his full strength.. For all we know, he could have been both weakened and injured..

Sargeras and Highfather is the two most powerful titans, I'd say..

Originally posted by Utrigita
Next they will fight Kil'jaeden and defeat him this is so lame, they are messing the entire warcraft universe up.

The Titan was killed.

But that would mean that a single Titan = A single Old God.

yeh that is so lame, i dont mind if they add things that are not part of the major story but having some lame ass heroes beating somethng as high as Illidan for example is lame, even if they get help from NPC's its not really the same, i mean hell, as if madiev would beat illidan at his prime, she isnt neccerily of high power imo

hmm imo, Top titans, parthanon ones like Sarg/Aman'thul=Old God

i think if Aman'thul fought against one Old God hed be able to defeat it, same with Sarg, but the average titan, maybe even the not so high ones such as Aman'thuls spouce i dont think they would beat an Old God, or if they did they would be badly harmed.

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
He imprisoned them.. He didn't slay them.. That's my point.. Sargeras pre-corrution isn't a murderous maniac.. And pre-corruption he didn't even know what powers he truly had, because it was a place in his mind he didn't dare to visit.. His blade helps him in the battle, but his mind is still a prison for his own powers..

And we dont know for sure how that Old God died.. Unless we get some solid proof, we cant really assume that it was a 1vs1 fight to the death.. We dont even know if the Old God was at his full strength.. For all we know, he could have been both weakened and injured..

Sargeras and Highfather is the two most powerful titans, I'd say..

And yet he was capable of defeating numerous races through out the universe. And it true he isn't a killing maniac but never the less we have a scan that clearly show the sword of titan stuck in the head of a Old God which would mean that a Titan will kill if he find believes that the only option.

That's the way I understood it but will tjeck up with a friend that own Shadows & Light. But to follow that Logical then its just as possibly that if the Old God was weakened and Injured then the Lone Titan must have fought his way through his elementals and his elemental lord as well. That would leave him weakened and injured to so if we follow that logic it is still a even battle that was fought. And again I believe it was Onu that mentioned it from WoW that the most concrete I can get at this point.

Yes I'll agree but Sargeras Lieutenant isn't a pushover either none of the Pantheon is for that matter.

Originally posted by Burning thought
yeh that is so lame, i dont mind if they add things that are not part of the major story but having some lame ass heroes beating somethng as high as Illidan for example is lame, even if they get help from NPC's its not really the same, i mean hell, as if madiev would beat illidan at his prime, she isnt neccerily of high power imo

hmm imo, Top titans, parthanon ones like Sarg/Aman'thul=Old God

i think if Aman'thul fought against one Old God hed be able to defeat it, same with Sarg, but the average titan, maybe even the not so high ones such as Aman'thuls spouce i dont think they would beat an Old God, or if they did they would be badly harmed.

They are messing the universe up 🙁

I would say Aman'Thul and Sargares > Old Gods

I think they would be able to defeat it but at the cost of there own life. A Old God certainly isn't a push over.

Old Gods>Sargeras. Sargeras is afraid of the Old Gods, he would rather beg for mercy than have to face the Five again.

yes, all 5 of them > Sarg, but Sarg/Aman'thul vs one of them i think they would win for sure

Mo, what it means is that Sarg would rather beg for mercy than face the Five AGAIN, in other words have to fight in the war one more time. This implies that Sarg is afraidof the terrible power of the Old Gods. Someone should make a Respect Thread on them. Also, I agree that WoW needs to stop killing people off. Next thing you know there's gonna be a five man raid where you fight the Pantheon and kill em lol.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Mo, what it means is that Sarg would rather beg for mercy than face the Five AGAIN, in other words have to fight in the war one more time. This implies that Sarg is afraidof the terrible power of the Old Gods. Someone should make a Respect Thread on them. Also, I agree that WoW needs to stop killing people off. Next thing you know there's gonna be a five man raid where you fight the Pantheon and kill em lol.

hehe if that happens i would cry, wet my pants, and concede in all Kain debates

ime not sure about a respect thread, not really much info on them to make a good debate on them anyway tbh, its fiar and well against warcraft characters but when they come up against others we dont really know their powers, although i made a C'than battle ages ago

Originally posted by Burning thought
hehe if that happens i would cry, wet my pants, and concede in all Kain debates

ime not sure about a respect thread, not really much info on them to make a good debate on them anyway tbh, its fiar and well against warcraft characters but when they come up against others we dont really know their powers, although i made a C'than battle ages ago

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Old Gods>Sargeras. Sargeras is afraid of the Old Gods, he would rather beg for mercy than have to face the Five again.

And you know this from where to be exact, judging from the sundering the Old Gods would rather have the portal destroyed then permit Sargares to enter, if they couldn't be freed by the Demon Soul 😬

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Mo, what it means is that Sarg would rather beg for mercy than face the Five AGAIN, in other words have to fight in the war one more time. This implies that Sarg is afraidof the terrible power of the Old Gods. Someone should make a Respect Thread on them. Also, I agree that WoW needs to stop killing people off. Next thing you know there's gonna be a five man raid where you fight the Pantheon and kill em lol.

This isn't the Five Old Gods vs Sargares this is just One Old God Against a uncorrupted Sargares...

Originally posted by Burning thought
yes, all 5 of them > Sarg, but Sarg/Aman'thul vs one of them i think they would win for sure

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Originally posted by Utrigita
This isn't the Five Old Gods vs Sargares this is just One Old God Against a uncorrupted Sargares...

The uncorrupted Sargeras would never beg for mercy.. He believes in good and believes that the only right thing would be to fight them.. The pure Sargeras would be unselfish and battle to the end if it was the only way..

And of course he would beg for mercy.. The old gods are dead powerful! Anyone in the Warcraft universe would beg for mercy.. Even one old god against the four others..

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Cthun is massively weakened compared to his form in the war. Also, another thing I read on Wowwiki, is that it may be possible the Old Gods had an entire race of creatures, the 5 Old Gods were simply the leaders. This is not concrete stuff tho, so don't take it for granted.

May have been possible? C'thun animated the Quiraij at his weakest state.. If they didn't have armies fighting for them at their primes, I'd be surprised..

Originally posted by Burning thought
yes, all 5 of them > Sarg, but Sarg/Aman'thul vs one of them i think they would win for sure

Agreed.. Elune's true powers are unknown, but we know they are vast.. I wouldn't exclude her..

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
The uncorrupted Sargeras would never beg for mercy.. He believes in good and believes that the only right thing would be to fight them.. The pure Sargeras would be unselfish and battle to the end if it was the only way..

And of course he would beg for mercy.. The old gods are dead powerful! Anyone in the Warcraft universe would beg for mercy.. Even one old god against the four others..

May have been possible? C'thun animated the Quiraij at his weakest state.. If they didn't have armies fighting for them at their primes, I'd be surprised..

Agreed.. Elune's true powers are unknown, but we know they are vast.. I wouldn't exclude her..

I didn't say he wouldn't against all of them

Elune would be beneath a Titan as from what I know...

Originally posted by Utrigita
I didn't say he wouldn't against all of them

Elune would be beneath a Titan as from what I know...

Elune could give corrupted Sargeras living hell, if you ask me..

I've been wanting to say this but Elder God PWNZ

I don't want to explain weep313

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
Elune could give corrupted Sargeras living hell, if you ask me..

A fusion between Malorne and Elune made Cenarius who was defeated by Archimonde, I isn't denying that she isn't powerfull but at the same level as Sargares ❌

Also I believe that in the Shadows and Light she was descripted as being the most powerful Eternal in Azeróth (that would include the Old Gods)

nah, tbh i dont bleive she can fight, powerful yes, beyond no shadow of a doubt, but in actual combat, thats not the path she takes and i doubt she has much in actual combat, not to mension shes a bit of an enigma, some say shes Ysera the titan, others say shes a completly diffrent Godess...who knows, but i certainly dont think she has power beyond Sarg on combat grounds.

IMO Elune would equal one normal Titan maybe, she would be punked by a fully powered Old God or a Pantheon Titan.