Battlezone:quanchi112 vs nverbeenwthagirl

Started by Erik-Lensherr25 pages

Here's my view :

Spoiler:
I think Quanchi did a pretty good job , but not exactly convincing. His attacks and counterattacks were somewhat predictable and he hasn't exactly brought anything new with a few small exceptions . Nvr did a very good job analyzing and refuting the "Superman beat Darkseid" argument , aswell as bringing a few scans further strenghtening the fact that Darkseid is above Thanos due to the power displays .

Quanchi mostly focused on Darkseid’s „low showings” and apparent defeats without directly proving that Thanos is superior to Darkseid . I also feel that none of the Thanos showings were decisive to give him a victory and that the scans shown by Nvr further showed Darkseid’s obvious , at least in my view , superiority .

Good debate nonetheless although it seemed to be going in circles at a certain point with the same subject being discussed over and over again

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Thanos has never fought anyone like DS.
As for highfather, read it and weep.

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff144/KMCSuperman/pic013-1.jpg

This screams of a plot device amp. It is like me saying Thanos gets his forcefields at their most powerful level when he made Galactus exert himself.

They are building Ds up on this story so they are making him more powerful through a plot device.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This screams of a plot device amp. It is like me saying Thanos gets his forcefields at their most powerful level when he made Galactus exert himself.

They are building Ds up on this story so they are making him more powerful through a plot device.


crylaugh

Originally posted by quanchi112
Let me explain something to you because you still havent gotten it. I have never said that Superman was greater than either. I merely have said that Superman can defeat him when the fight presses on and his powers fail him which they have so many times now. Ds is greater than Superman. But his losses to Supes show his glaring weakness to some of his power and fighting ability. Ds's biggest weakness is Thanos's greatest strength. Again when examining these characters we must look at their losses and break it down and see how or why they lost. Ds lost due to his lack of durability and his hand to hand battling skills. Thanos has him beat in both of these departments.

I thought that in three days you would have figured this out by now.

i thought in three days you would have figured out by now that Superman has greater feats Than Thanos. That I proved that DS durability isn't in question, and that Superman only beat DS once. I also proved that barring Superman, DS doesn't like to or need to fight. Thanos isn't superman. So he doesn't have the luxury of DS even accepting a challenge from him. You didn't prove how Thanos could beat DS. Every "victory" That you gave us of thanos was of prep, him simply surviving an awesome attack, or him using some other form of guile. He never over powered anyone. But I guess you missed that part.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Here's my view :

Spoiler:
I think Quanchi did a pretty good job , but not exactly convincing. His attacks and counterattacks were somewhat predictable and he hasn't exactly brought anything new with a few small exceptions . Nvr did a very good job analyzing and refuting the "Superman beat Darkseid" argument , aswell as bringing a few scans further strenghtening the fact that Darkseid is above Thanos due to the power displays .

Quanchi mostly focused on Darkseid’s „low showings” and apparent defeats without directly proving that Thanos is superior to Darkseid . I also feel that none of the Thanos showings were decisive to give him a victory and that the scans shown by Nvr further showed Darkseid’s obvious , at least in my view , superiority .

Good debate nonetheless although it seemed to be going in circles at a certain point with the same subject being discussed over and over again

Which Is why I didn't want to do the debate in the first place. Freaking circles.

Originally posted by Estacado
crylaugh
I concure. Here i have given him proof that Highfather is damned near invincible and now he says plot device. LMAO. 😆 😆 😆

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Here's my view :

Spoiler:
I think Quanchi did a pretty good job , but not exactly convincing. His attacks and counterattacks were somewhat predictable and he hasn't exactly brought anything new with a few small exceptions . Nvr did a very good job analyzing and refuting the "Superman beat Darkseid" argument , aswell as bringing a few scans further strenghtening the fact that Darkseid is above Thanos due to the power displays .

Quanchi mostly focused on Darkseid’s „low showings” and apparent defeats without directly proving that Thanos is superior to Darkseid . I also feel that none of the Thanos showings were decisive to give him a victory and that the scans shown by Nvr further showed Darkseid’s obvious , at least in my view , superiority .

Good debate nonetheless although it seemed to be going in circles at a certain point with the same subject being discussed over and over again

Spoiler:
I was also learning towards Nvr most of the time mostly because I doesn't think Quanchi presented some of Thanos more interesting feat resisting Reality warp would be one. But what maked that I didn't make a decisive winner was Nvr conclusion which basically IMO brought a fin debate from a highway in USA to a road in eastern siberia 😬 agreed with the circles and IMO a little too much focus on Superman

SAince I don't feel like reading 15 pages, Can someone please give a summary of how nvr supposedly '"refuting" the fact that Superman has proven seevral times that he can stalemate and defeat Darkseid?

Originally posted by quanchi112
i tire of ur need to troll me. leave me out of my psots and ill leave you out of mine. i have yet to see you argue anything comic vs related anyways.

For the record, Smurph is actually not a bad debater when he feels like it.

He, like me, however, tends to prefer to **** around. 🙂.

Originally posted by llagrok
Sooo, Judges gonna vote soon?

I tend to wait when I judge. I don't like posting first - I dunno why.

I was here last night, and I had read the entire thing last night...and...I probably could have voted last night if I felt like it.

But I decided to wait.

Blair mentioned that he'd vote today - I'll try to vote right after he does, if Ill doesn't beat me. If he does, and there isn't a need for a tie-breaker, I guess my opinion won't matter. Oh well?

But - to Nvr and Quanchi - as others have said - the debate is over. We don't need to continue it here.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Spoiler:
I was also learning towards Nvr most of the time mostly because I doesn't think Quanchi presented some of Thanos more interesting feat resisting Reality warp would be one. But what maked that I didn't make a decisive winner was Nvr conclusion which basically IMO brought a fin debate from a highway in USA to a road in eastern siberia 😬 agreed with the circles and IMO a little too much focus on Superman
As I said, it was just annoying to debate. The logic was so off that I couldn't even argue effectively. Cuz he wasn't understanding my points. SO I just made up a battle scene and left it at that. All that posting I was doing for nothing. My point wasn't to prove anything to the forum, it was to try and get him to see the error of his logic. I failed miserably in getting him to see anything.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Spoiler:
I was also learning towards Nvr most of the time mostly because I doesn't think Quanchi presented some of Thanos more interesting feat resisting Reality warp would be one. But what maked that I didn't make a decisive winner was Nvr conclusion which basically IMO brought a fin debate from a highway in USA to a road in eastern siberia 😬
Spoiler:
Yeah , the conclusion did kinda looked like him tripping near the finsh line but he still made it , at least in my view .

Originally posted by Soljer
For the record, Smurph is actually not a bad debater when he feels like it.

He, like me, however, tends to prefer to **** around. 🙂.

I tend to wait when I judge. I don't like posting first - I dunno why.

I was here last night, and I had read the entire thing last night...and...I probably could have voted last night if I felt like it.

But I decided to wait.

Blair mentioned that he'd vote today - I'll try to vote right after he does, if Ill doesn't beat me. If he does, and there isn't a need for a tie-breaker, I guess my opinion won't matter. Oh well?

But - to Nvr and Quanchi - as others have said - the debate is over. We don't need to continue it here.


K.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
As I said, it was just annoying to debate. The logic was so off that I couldn't even argue effectively. Cuz he wasn't understanding my points. SO I just made up a battle scene and left it at that. All that posting I was doing for nothing. My point wasn't to prove anything to the forum, it was to try and get him to see the error of his logic. I failed miserably in getting him to see anything.

okay..

Originally posted by panthergod
SAince I don't feel like reading 15 pages, Can someone please give a summary of how nvr supposedly '"refuting" the fact that Superman has proven seevral times that he can stalemate and defeat Darkseid?

no need to read 15 pages with nothing of interest on them the debate is here only 11 pages 😄

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=466263&pagenumber=11#post9632794

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I concure. Here i have given him proof that Highfather is damned near invincible and now he says plot device. LMAO. 😆 😆 😆

Yup.No doubt that this guy is a clown.

Originally posted by Estacado
Yup.No doubt that this guy is a clown.

"sighs" I think he is just severly biased and refuses to see any other point but his own. I wouldn't call him a clown per say.

Originally posted by Estacado
Yup.No doubt that this guy is a clown.
You have always hated me. So it doesnt surprise me that you think I lost.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You have always hated me. So it doesnt surprise me that you think I lost.

You just called a feat plot device because you don't like it.
I'm my eyes it equals this 👇

Originally posted by Soljer
For the record, Smurph is actually not a bad debater when he feels like it.

He, like me, however, tends to prefer to **** around. 🙂.

I tend to wait when I judge. I don't like posting first - I dunno why.

I was here last night, and I had read the entire thing last night...and...I probably could have voted last night if I felt like it.

But I decided to wait.

Blair mentioned that he'd vote today - I'll try to vote right after he does, if Ill doesn't beat me. If he does, and there isn't a need for a tie-breaker, I guess my opinion won't matter. Oh well?

But - to Nvr and Quanchi - as others have said - the debate is over. We don't need to continue it here.

Understood. I am going to pm the judges nver and tell them that we couldnt respond to each others summations. I want them to know this.

Originally posted by Estacado
You just called a feat plot device because you don't like it.
I'm my eyes it equals this 👇
The same way in which u disagree with apokolips now and jeph loeb.

becuz u dont like it.